I'm almost impressed with that lvl of dedication, disgusted but impressed .
Bob you were pushing for Multiversal Saber and Gil yourself
Gilgamesh is different
He scales above the whole cast where saber and kojiro dont
Heaven’s Door is worse than Babidi’s mind control based on actual featsthe issue is that you get turned into a book and then effectively mind controlled by heaven's door
and let's not even bring up babidi's "mind control", that nigga is trash
Based on what? All we ever see Babidi do is mind control guys who were already evil and even than they can resist like Vegeta did. Rohan's on the other hand has no such restriction and the only time it did not work was due to Josuke being too blind with rage at the moment.Heaven’s Door is worse than Babidi’s mind control based on actual feats
Not sure how you think it’s better
Rohan’s isn’t even mind control, it’s localized reality warpingBased on what? All we ever see Babidi do is mind control guys who were already evil and even than they can resist like Vegeta did. Rohan's on the other hand has no such restriction and the only time it did not work was due to Josuke being too blind with rage at the moment.
Wrong. Koichi was literally mind wiped and remembered nothing from his time with Rohan right after he left his house and the abilities of Heaven's Door would be considered both reality warping and mind control.Rohan’s isn’t even mind control, it’s localized reality warping
And yet he has zero feats of mind controlling beyond the small group of minions he had on his ship. One feat of range means nothing to the actual effect and power of his mind control, which is limited to only those that are dead.Babidi’s magic operates on a far greater scale, considering it’s good enough to let him communicate with everyone on Earth at once and can teleport him anywhere in the universe instantly
Where?Also, Okuyasu was able to resist it long enough to not kill himself. He does have that limitation
Not to a level where he’s unbeatable to said cast
If you want to categorize them the same then sureWrong. Koichi was literally mind wiped and remembered nothing from his time with Rohan right after he left his house and the abilities of Heaven's Door would be considered both reality warping and mind control.
Even if you want to say this, that is still better than the range Heaven’s Door ever showed with its power. That is not up for debateAnd yet he has zero feats of mind controlling beyond the small group of minions he had on his ship. One feat of range means nothing to the actual effect and power of his mind control, which is limited to only those that are dead.
When he almost burned himself aliveWhere?
yes, I’ve read this scene and seen it used so many time. Gil hit Saber with Ea and meant to kill her. Avalon hard counters Enuma Elish and gives Saber an opening to slice Gil in halfdid you watch the same anime
he never was trying to kill her just trying to get her to submit to him with her defying him
Sakura go Nom Nom"Oh my god Gil is so strong!!!!"
haha sword bone goes brr
I don't know anything about Heaven's door. But Babidi's mind control isn't that great even when compared to say, Lelouch geass, Vegeta only allows Babidi to brainwash him and even then he ignores it. He can't even use said power to control Majin Buu.Heaven’s Door is worse than Babidi’s mind control based on actual feats
Not sure how you think it’s better
if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck.....If you want to categorize them the same then sure
And once again, Range means jack shit to actual power. You can be universal in range all you want, it does not change the fact that Babidi showed no real great use of mind control besides a few evil minions who were weak to it.Even if you want to say this, that is still better than the range Heaven’s Door ever showed with its power. That is not up for debate
And?When he almost burned himself alive
He let her winSo again. Not unbeatable and certainly able to be killed if struck by a strong enough NP by another Servant