Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 4 Part 2: Electric Boogaloo

Xhominid The Apex

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Welp not that it was ever NOT a retarded thing to claim but the idea of Quilge being an "average Nazi" just went completely up in fucking smoke. :heston

So not only does Kubo acknowledge that his using RansoTengai emphasizes his skill, not only is he literally the "combat instructor" for the Sternritter with several of them being his students, not only was he trusted to keep Ichigo at bay so much so that Mustache was willing to launch the invasion but he ALSO shits on most of them in terms of feats. :maybe

I'm not sure why anyone asked about the Gin Bankai thing, I thought it was pretty fucking obvious that his blade regenerates, otherwise he would break his Bankai the first time he actually uses it to kill something, which would just be dumb.
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We fucking called that shit years ago, I have no idea why people thought Quilge was weak shit when he was literally the only Sternritter in Heuco Muendo! Wouldn't that account for, oh I don't know, EVERYTHING?! Like common sense should not be this hard but apparently, it really is an impossible concept to grasp for most people...
So again, it just proves that Fullbring Bankai Ichigo was absolutely stronger than any Mid-Tier Sternritter and would only lose to the Schutzstaffel... which isn't a bad place to be at compared to everyone else before his True Powers was awakened.

EDIT: It also proves EXACTLY what we talked about with the Tres Bestia, Ayon, Harribel and Grimmjow gaining massive buffs during the timeskip... and most of them don't even know it either LMFAO :heston
 
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Xhominid The Apex said:
We fucking called that shit years ago, I have no idea why people thought Quilge was weak shit when he was literally the only Sternritter in Heuco Muendo! Wouldn't that account for, oh I don't know, EVERYTHING?! Like common sense should not be this hard but apparently, it really is an impossible concept to grasp for most people...
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It stems largely from other Nazis now using Sklaverei on top of Vollstanding.

Apparently these people were under the impression that was the ONLY thing that separated Quilge from the other Nazis, which is ludicrous considering his feats exceed any non-Elite except for Royd and Gremmy with only Bazz and Robert otherwise coming close.

The others using Sklaverei doesn't suddenly mean Quilge is now fodder or average. Yet you have people seeing this and saying "we should scrutinize Kubo's answers more since he seems to make it up as he goes" despite the fact there's nothing in this response that contradicts anything.

People are just really desperate to treat Liltotto and the Fem-Nazis like they're actually relevant. :kobeha
Xhominid The Apex said:
So again, it just proves that Fullbring Bankai Ichigo was absolutely stronger than any Mid-Tier Sternritter and would only lose to the Schutzstaffel... which isn't a bad place to be at compared to everyone else before his True Powers was awakened.
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Yep pretty much it's:
  • Fullbring Bankai Ichigo (sans Quincy powers) only loses to Royd and Gremmy (possibly only Royd) and even that wouldn't be easy.
  • Fullbring Bankai Ichigo with Quincy powers murks anyone who isn't an Elite.
Xhominid The Apex said:
EDIT: It also proves EXACTLY what we talked about with the Tres Bestia, Ayon, Harribel and Grimmjow gaining massive buffs during the timeskip... and most of them don't even know it either LMFAO :heston
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"bu.bu..but the novel." :heston

I don't anything short of straight up showing Grimmjow actually fight Ichigo or someone else for a bit is going to get these idiots to admit that this is obviously a thing, even thought the anime has already made it more blatant with shit like Harribel outright surviving at least one attack from Mustache himself. :maybe
 
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It stems largely from other Nazis now using Sklaverei on top of Vollstanding.

Apparently these people were under the impression that was the ONLY thing that separated Quilge from the other Nazis, which is ludicrous considering his feats exceed any non-Elite except for Royd and Gremmy with only Bazz and Robert otherwise coming close.
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It's been obvious that the FV Bleach section was desperate as shit... but this is just sad at this point...
Sklaveri usage should not at all be the only thing that matters considering he's the only Sternritter that used Rashotengai(Which Mayuri even stated he has never seen throughout any of his live experiments) and the fact that he's the only Sternritter in Heuco Muendo which Yhwach was planning on keeping for easy Arrancar Quincies to be made and used as fodder soldiers...

Adamant soul said:
The others using Sklaverei doesn't suddenly mean Quilge is now fodder or average. Yet you have people seeing this and saying "we should scrutinize Kubo's answers more since he seems to make it up as he goes" despite the fact there's nothing in this response that contradicts anything.

People are just really desperate to treat Liltotto and the Fem-Nazis like they're actually relevant. :kobeha
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That's really stupid considering it makes zero sense that Gin's Bankai cannot self-repair itself considering it's literally just fucking DUST! This is dumber since we have precedent that there is selective people in that while like Komamura or Mayuri who just changes his shit up entirely...
What's even dumber about them trying to force the Bambiettes to be stronger than they are... is that they completely miss the fact that Kubo just likes them and wants them to get more screentime. He didn't have them fight Ichigo because "OMG, You see how strong they are now guys?!" It's literally "They are my favorite group of the Sternritter, let them just basically show what they can do".

Adamant soul said:
Yep pretty much it's:
  • Fullbring Bankai Ichigo (sans Quincy powers) only loses to Royd and Gremmy (possibly only Royd) and even that wouldn't be easy.
  • Fullbring Bankai Ichigo with Quincy powers murks anyone who isn't an Elite.
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Basically lol.

Adamant soul said:
"bu.bu..but the novel." :heston

I don't anything short of straight up showing Grimmjow actually fight Ichigo or someone else for a bit is going to get these idiots to admit that this is obviously a thing, even thought the anime has already made it more blatant with shit like Harribel outright surviving at least one attack from Mustache himself. :maybe
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Wait till that 3rd Cour where we get Ichigo turning serious against Grimmjow... which no one else in the Sternritter was able to make him do right? :hestonpls

But seriously, that Novel is trash powerlevel wise and it's still insane to me people think it matters at that front when it's a mess of contradictions that make zero sense at all(The remaining Espada are treated as being weaker than Barragan... despite the fact that it literally doesn't work with what the manga and anime has shown us and that's only the tip of the iceberg). But that's to be expected of these morons.
 
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It's funny they keep bringing in Stephanie Meyer's Q&A shit again when it consistently contradicts her own fucking work at that, like come the hell on with that shit.
 
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Why the hell are people acting as if to defeat Edward Cullen, you need to defeat a Gojo-calibur opponent? Because... no... hell no is Edward that strong :skully
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From what I've heard, you don't even need to look any further than other movie vampires to find characters that an fuck up Edward, never mind going into shounen manga.

Most Monsters of The Week in Rosario + Vampire could take them. :kobeha
 
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Oh, yeah, this is true. Great find.

However... even though it took time to fully adapt to Red, Mahoraga is still adapting, and is only slightly injured after taking a point blank Red - just from one prior exposure, and an indirect exposure at that.

So, while Red was low priority, we still see that Mahoraga's adaptation is blazing fast, despite only having been exposed to it once.

My point is that one exposure to RCT should have been enough for the adaptation process to begin, so when Gojo was slashed again, it would have been noted that his RCT was slowing down, or something. But no, we see him easily pop out a new arm in 235 with no issues.

Same with Black Flash. It wasn't noted to be a priority, but a single exposure to Black Flash in 231 was enough for Gojo's subsequent Black Flashes to be shrugged off by Mahoraga in 235.

The same should have happened with RCT.
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They do realize that their points don't really work in the favor of how they are using Mahoraga's Adaptation right?
Like they are acting like Mahoraga adapts to everything he does when that's never been stated or shown at all, like why pretend Mahoraga can adapt to RCT usage when it never did that?
Now am I saying this user is saying these things? No, but it's weird that people are vastly using the wrong shit to go "Well he can adapt to that" when it's not shown he can adapt to that.

We can't say he can adapt to Muzan's blood because nothing has shown he can do that level of adaptation regardless of what the anime shows(Hell, it's stupid as shit for a Cursed Spirit to need GILLS to BREATHE UNDERWATER) because the anime itself is a massive ass trainwreck when it comes to the general animation issues as a whole outside of looking fluid(damn near Naruto vs. Pain levels).
 
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Mahoraga grew gills in response to being submerged in water. There's no reason to assume it can't develop biological countermeasures.
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Stating this in spite of the fact we are never told or shown Mahoraga, a shikigami, possesses anything remotely similar to cells or organic structures is kinda silly.
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>Mahoraga can adapt to grow gills
>How can you believe Mahoraga as a Shikigami can have anything similar to cells or organic structure
>Still adapted to grow gills

Someone fetch this dude a goddamned biology book as I fully believe this dude believes that fish are not organic beings that have cells...
 
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Raiku cannot see Sukuna cleaver nor does she have a defensive NP to walk through it so Sukana wins

As soon as you pit Sukuna against a servant that can see or ignore cleave, Sukuna is dead
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do people not realize that the idea that servants wouldn't be able to deal with invisibility is literally setting breakings levels of dumb? in Mahoyo concealment magecraft is introduced which is just straight up invisibility and is apparently considered "elementary magecraft".

Point is that if servants can't deal with invisibility why didn't Madea cast it on Kuzuki? or why didn't Kayneth cast it on Diarmuid? I'm sure there are other/better examples but you get the point.

there's also a ability very similar to cleave in the nasuverse in the form of Fortes magecraft which servants haven't interacted with but there is no way in hell they would struggle against it.

like that's just from the top of my head... sometimes SB literally causes me headaches...
 
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do people not realize that the idea that servants wouldn't be able to deal with invisibility is literally setting breakings levels of dumb?
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It actually depends on the potency of the Invisibility and its nature and the skills that a Servant has to see through it.


We've had example of Servants having to deal with invisible foes and whilst they didn't get offed by people because they weren't able to sense them for example, they weren't having an easy go of it either.


Going back to potency, Concealment Magecraft is elementary magecraft, but something like a high rank Presence Concealment ?

That shit is another league completely .
 
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Type-Rey said:
It actually depends on the potency of the Invisibility and its nature and the skills that a Servant has to see through it.


We've had example of Servants having to deal with invisible foes and whilst they didn't get offed by people because they weren't able to sense them for example, they weren't having an easy go of it either.


Going back to potency, Concealment Magecraft is elementary magecraft, but something like a high rank Presence Concealment ?

That shit is another league completely .
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I mean I wasn't claiming that they would be able to see through it.. just that they could deal with It (probably via sensing intentions in the same vein as Kirei, Shirou, and Shiki do).

and yeah I'm aware that the nasuverse has different potencies of invisibility (Li Shuwen's bs comes to mind) but I'm pretty sure cleave is just baseline anyway so I didn't bother mentioning it in my original post.

on a side note has presence concealment ever been straight up referred to as invisibility? cuz from what I recall it's always been treated as freakishly good stealth... tho tbf at a certain point stealth just becomes invisibility in fiction lol.
 
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I mean I wasn't claiming that they would be able to see through it.. just that they could deal with It (probably via sensing intentions in the same vein as Kirei, Shirou, and Shiki do).
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That's the thing tho, there are instances where they could do just that based on the abilities they have, but it shouldn't be treated as a baseline.

Cause not everyone has Instinct like Artoria or Mordred do for example.

Regrettable said:
and yeah I'm aware that the nasuverse has different potencies of invisibility
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Not just the Nasuverse. Fiction in general.

Regrettable said:
on a side note has presence concealment ever been straight up referred to as invisibility? cuz from what I recall it's always been treated as freakishly good stealth... tho tbf at a certain point stealth just becomes invisibility in fiction lol.
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Not literally, but from a certain point, it becomes pointless semantics. Like if you're good enough that your opponent can't sense you when you're a few feet away from him then...what does it matter what it's called ? The effect is literally the same.
 
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Type-Rey said:
That's the thing tho, there are instances where they could do just that based on the abilities they have, but it shouldn't be treated as a baseline.

Cause not everyone has Instinct like Artoria or Mordred do for example.
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fair I guess I'm generally against characters getting abilities that they themselves haven't performed and I shouldn't be a hypocrite here.

also I'm pretty sure this isn't your intention but it sounds like you're implying Artoria Instinct = Shiki/Shirou/Kire precog(or whatever I should call it) which feels so wrong lmao.
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Not just the Nasuverse. Fiction in general.
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I'm aware I just phrased that poorly (in my defense I haven't slept for like 21 hours).
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Not literally, but from a certain point, it becomes pointless semantics. Like if you're good enough that your opponent can't sense you when you're a few feet away from him then...what does it matter what it's called ? The effect is literally the same.
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yeah it's just arguing schematics at that point.

anyway I should probably head to bed now.
 
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