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Game Ranked Dune Mafia - town victory

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Arne Slot said:
I haven't read the scum chat, I feel like ratchets play had an expiration date and he didn't manage Watson/Aurelian particularly well which isn't necessarily his fault but did cost them as his play around their chaos didn't pass muster. I'd consider RDK for a HM but for me catching scum is more impressive than bussing. It's your call
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This was probably the most difficult I've had pushing town as a scum player. I found very few holes that I could poke that wouldn't have just been going after low hanging fruit. It was a difficult game, ratchet said the same thing. I tried to position myself strategically and did a fine job of it, you were the only person that brought it up as suspect actually. I do firmly believe we would have won weren't it for your performance so have to give it to you. As for managing Watson and Aurelian, if you read the scum chat you'll see it was very much a return to a burning house with pizza scenario both on day 2 and then again yesterday, wouldn't hold that against Ratchet at all
 
RDK said:
This was probably the most difficult I've had pushing town as a scum player. I found very few holes that I could poke that wouldn't have just been going after low hanging fruit. It was a difficult game, ratchet said the same thing. I tried to position myself strategically and did a fine job of it, you were the only person that brought it up as suspect actually. I do firmly believe we would have won weren't it for your performance so have to give it to you. As for managing Watson and Aurelian, if you read the scum chat you'll see it was very much a return to a burning house with pizza scenario both on day 2 and then again yesterday, wouldn't hold that against Ratchet at all
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Not at all holding it against him either. But things fell into place rather predictably as a result. Fwiw I think you would have won that endgame statistically
 
It's kinda funny how in dead chat everyone was saying there's no way we'll get RDK but at the same time in scum chat RDK is convinced he'll be POE'd out
 
Poyser said:
Conversion is annoying and hard to deal with, but I don’t consider it bastard unless it goes unannounced. If town know there is a conversion and know when it happened then they can hunt for it, so it’s not bastard

Swear you MU geeks just call anything you don’t like bastard. It’s gay
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I mentioned in the opening post no cults, but here it was only one role which started as indie that could change sides with announcement, so not really a "cult" in my mind.
 
Arne Slot said:
I haven't read the scum chat, I feel like ratchets play had an expiration date and he didn't manage Watson/Aurelian particularly well which isn't necessarily his fault but did cost them as his play around their chaos didn't pass muster. I'd consider RDK for a HM but for me catching scum is more impressive than bussing. It's your call
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I feel like I did everything I possibly could to manage Watson and Aurelian. My plan was to distance from Aurelian, have Watson coast through the first few days and basically take her through the game that way. Also feel like I'd created avenues and, at the point if my death, the scum team had a viable path to winning. Can't do anything about you catching on to RDK, that was just well played.

I don't really care to advocate for myself much. If we won the game I'd happily have conceded to RDK for the awards etc. But I don't feel like there was a great deal more I could have reasonably done, Day 2 in particular we just had a few botched plays which I think changed the course of the game. I would agree that my play had an expiration date, but that kind of comes with the territory of being the one trying to set the board for my team.
 
Ultra said:
Forgot there were 2 indies

You have anti town 7 votes to start with and still wanna give scum a pity HM. Sad!
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dem 7 anti town votes + poyser + sparkle + fuji

that cuda been majority on you day 1 easily

guess we no diffed them

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Ratchet said:
I feel like I did everything I possibly could to manage Watson and Aurelian. My plan was to distance from Aurelian, have Watson coast through the first few days and basically take her through the game that way. Also feel like I'd created avenues and, at the point if my death, the scum team had a viable path to winning. Can't do anything about you catching on to RDK, that was just well played.

I don't really care to advocate for myself much. If we won the game I'd happily have conceded to RDK for the awards etc. But I don't feel like there was a great deal more I could have reasonably done, Day 2 in particular we just had a few botched plays which I think changed the course of the game. I would agree that my play had an expiration date, but that kind of comes with the territory of being the one trying to set the board for my team.
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Yeah after reading the scum chat I agree you did all you could
 
Ultra said:
Ratchet's game plan basically failed too though
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It failed because a single townie made a great read and was able to push it through. The plan, functionally, was sound and, I would argue only really CP in this game would have caught onto RDK in that situation, no disrespect to either you or Poyser intended. It happens, but the failing isn't the plan, it's a great player making a great read. No plan can account for everything Ultra.
 
Ratchet said:
It failed because a single townie made a great read and was able to push it through. The plan, functionally, was sound and, I would argue only really CP in this game would have caught onto RDK in that situation, no disrespect to either you or Poyser intended. It happens, but the failing isn't the plan, it's a great player making a great read. No plan can account for everything Ultra.
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Kinda hard not to read this as motivated from you as well after I said there is a good argument for you to not get anything Ultra, I hope I'm wrong on that but it sure feels petty.
 
Ratchet said:
It failed because a single townie made a great read and was able to push it through. The plan, functionally, was sound and, I would argue only really CP in this game would have caught onto RDK in that situation, no disrespect to either you or Poyser intended. It happens, but the failing isn't the plan, it's a great player making a great read. No plan can account for everything Ultra.
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I was talking about your individual game plan
 
Ultra said:
Fwiw I think you would have won that endgame statistically
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Which actually evidences against your position that the gameplan was a failing one. The right player was set up in the right way, with enough mislynches on the table to give them room to push into. Statistically is all a plan can really account for. There's no shame in losing to a good read at the end.
 
Ultra said:
I was talking about your individual game plan
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Which was? My plan for myself was not isolated from my plan for the team to win, and Melkor was referring to the gameplan laid out to win the game, which goes beyond my individual game plan, so I don't even know if you know what you're arguing at this point. And for the record, my distancing with Fang was fine, right up until he slipped, at which point the prospect of it being a bus was introduced into the peripheral of the town. There is nothing I can do about that, nor can I account for it, beyond trying to play it off and to try and take control of the framing of it, all of which I did.
 
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