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Jedah Dohma (Darkstalkers) vs ORT (Fate)

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Battle takes place in the Makai
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Even then he seems way less versatile than ORT from what I've read

can't really kill ORT either :blobthink:
 
at the very least his Reset thing definitely had some prep required so galaxy+~ makes the most sense to me. Curious how their hax interact
 
Depends on how you think ORT handles being dumped into Majigen
 
Jedan is > Pyron but that’s more due to hax

He did wreck Makai though
 
And Pyron is not even the strongest demon from his debut game ,thats Lord Raptor´s master.
 
where was pyron’s rank given? never heard of this until now. It’s weird to think about since he isn’t a demon like the other characters with rankings
 
Pyron has no rank, he’s not even a Darkstalker to begin with

Tbh the class system was always used by fans to heavily wank the characters online. There are literal D Class demons stated to be far stronger than any B Class one, but people conveniently leave that part out when discussing the ranks

The class system is suppose to show how they rank in Makai society. That’s it, it was never really a power level thing
It CAN happen, but it's not the norm. The class system has always been in tandem with the strength of the demon.

Considering that there are 30 billion D rank beasts and only around 2,000 have ever had the strength to rival a B+ class, you can see the rarity of such a thing happening. Humans are typically ranked C in power, as that is the average strength. However, there are Hunters that are obviously stronger than that and are around B+ tier. Considering that there are 6 billion humans and only a couple of hundred gain that power, the odds are tremendously against that happening.

Just because it can, doesn't mean you throw out the general rules for equating classification system. Especially considering that the A ranks and above belong to the noble houses and they traditionally skull-fuck everyone else below A rank.
 
Think that someone as powerfull as Demitri only got the B+ rank after years of beating and absorbing others demons
 
Think that someone as powerfull as Demitri only got the B+ rank after years of beating and absorbing others demons
I mean his family is ranked A, as is he. Morrigan was born S+. Belial split her power because it threatened both Realms (Makai and Human) due to her age and inability to control it. While split, she was still classed as S. Strong enough for Demitri to not be a match for her prior to absorbing Pyron.

Demitri WAS weakened for a time after his initial loss and banishment by Belial. He was far weaker than an A at the time but still so far hilariously above humans that even powerful hunters still died to him when they came to kill him in his castle.

The description of B Class specifically says that they can take entire human armies. Power was always tied into the classes.
 
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Think that someone as powerfull as Demitri only got the B+ rank after years of beating and absorbing others demons
For even further clarification, Demitri absorbing the powers of other demons brought him well into S class. Enough to where he was holding his own against Belial before getting restrained and then banished.

"The Prince of Darkness" Demitri Maximoff... What was the "Battle 100 Years Ago" that caused him to be banished from the Makai world?
Now, let me describe the whole story here.

Three major "Makai aristocrats" govern the demon world: the Aensland family, the Dohma family, and the Voshtal family. This ruling system, which lasted for more than 10,000 years, collapsed with the death of the head of the Voshtal family, Spirit King Galnan. This was the beginning of what would later be called the "Makai War". (*Spirit King Galnan: The head of the Voshtar family for over 20,000 years)

The head of the Dohma family, the Underworld King Jedha, takes advantage of this opportunity and plans to take full control of the demon world.
He broke the taboo, pried open the "door" to the human world, and began collecting evil souls.
This is to defeat the demon king Belial, the head of the Aensland family who possesses the greatest magical power in the demon world.
However, Jedha self-destructed because he took in magical power that far exceeded his limit at once.

(*Dark King Jedha: Self-destructed in a rush to take in evil souls as magical power. Demon King Beliel The head of the Aensland family, said to have the greatest magical power in the demon world. Prestigious among the demonic nobles)

The world of demons was in chaos.
Other demonic aristocrats who had been forced to follow the three major rulers up until now also nominate themselves as the new rulers to overthrow Beliel.
The young head of the Maximov family, Demitri, was one of them.
Demitri had a good chance. Using the "door" to the human world opened by Jedha, he made up for the stark difference in magical power.
Cunningly, Demitri's control of magic gradually narrowed the sphere of influence of Demon King Beliel.

"Wait, Beliel... I'll show you who's the strongest in the demon world."

Clash of magic and magic. The time for a showdown is approaching!
Demitri finally arrives at the demon king's castle.
There is a deceitful choking presence. A huge shadow emerges slowly.

"How dare you... you are so rude to break into my castle without permission..."

A giant towering rocky mountain. Demitri answers without hesitation.

"Fu... this castle will be mine in due time, and this demon world too!"

"Cease your laughter!"

In an instant, countless blades of light were shot at Demitri. Dodge it with paper-like weight and retreated. The air roared, and the Demon King's eyes opened.
The battle lasted several days.
Beliel, who had initially planned to take it lightly, soon realized that things had changed. As expected of a demon lord, there is a limit to his magical power.

"This guy... where did this enormous magical power come from?"

Demitri took in souls through the "door" that connected to the human world and was now able to control infinite magical power.
Demitri is confident of victory. "It's over, Beliel... Feel My Rage!!"
When he tried to shoot a ball of fire filled with all his power, aimed at Beliel...

"G... Wha, what!? My body can't move!"

Demitri's arms stiffened, about to be dragged by a wave of magical power that backed up with terrifying force.

"Beliel, what have you done!?"

"After all, you didn't have the strength to defeat this demon king."

With his last power, Beliel cut off a part of the demon world... the space with the "door", which was the point of contact with the human world, into a different dimension.
He was consumed by the enormous energy he summoned, and Demitri was blown out of the demon world.

"It's sad that a little bit of my world is lost... but it can't be helped."

Demitri was sent to the human world along with his castle and was forced to sleep for a long time to heal his wounded body.
Due to the effects of this battle, the "door" was lost, and at the same time, many demonic creatures flowed into the human world.
And 100 years.......

Due to Pyron's attack, the "Prince of Darkness" Demitri Maximoff has been revived. The peace of the demon world for a while is about to be disturbed again. Is he truly the strongest in the demon world... the answer will soon become clear.
This information comes from the links below. Including the translation of the Official All About Night Warriors book that details the Classes. It is where the hard numbers for the Class D demons came from. It also mentions that the majority of the characters in the games are Class B+ level.





Here is where I got the numbers for the human Darkhunters. It's from B.B. Hood's profile in the Darkstalkers - Official Complete Works.

https://dn790002.ca.archive.org/0/i...ks/Darkstalkers - Official Complete Works.pdf

Here is the excerpt:

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where was pyron’s rank given? never heard of this until now. It’s weird to think about since he isn’t a demon like the other characters with rankings
Pyron was stronger than A class Demitri.

But that's not what matters here.

The universal thing with Jedah is just speculation. But Jedah's strength comes more from his mind and soul powers than from his destructive power. So this thing better have very high mind resistance and even higher soul resistance.
 
Pyron was stronger than A class Demitri.

But that's not what matters here.

The universal thing with Jedah is just speculation. But Jedah's strength comes more from his mind and soul powers than from his destructive power. So this thing better have very high mind resistance and even higher soul resistance.

The thing about ORT is that it's closer to a machine than an actual being despite it being a living organism.
So basically Jedah can potentially control it's mind but it's soul may be way too much considering how it's basically more connected with the Oort Cloud(In the Nasuverse, Celestial Objects are themselves living and can maintain whole ass timelines on their own) in body and soul.
 
Still might not be enough. How many objects are in the Oort Cloud? Trillions?

Not enough. Not anywhere near enough.
 
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