OBD Convo #39: never give up

Atem

Atem

King of Games
Donator
Joined
Oct 1, 2021
Messages
4,003
Reaction score
5,475
Physical is in. AIC is now 5.7 from 6.6 from two months ago.
 
Claudio Swiss

Claudio Swiss

Luminous
Joined
Sep 30, 2021
Messages
25,676
Reaction score
14,563
image0.jpg
image2.jpg
image3.jpg
image4.jpg
 
Xhominid The Apex

Xhominid The Apex

Luminous
Donator
Joined
Sep 30, 2021
Messages
13,807
Reaction score
8,281
Adamant soul said:
Tseng (Final Fantasy VII) - I mean sure but you already fight the Turks quite a lot and Tseng himself isn't really all that hateable of a character. He's just a man doing his job, so I don't lose any sleep over not getting to fight him.
Click to expand...

It feels weird that they keep acting like Tseng and the Turks are some monstrous villains because of the Plate Fall... but then ignore the nonsense of AVALANCHE's entire plot also killed just as many people as the Plate Fall did(Something Reeve explicitly tells Barret in his Cait Sith robot). Of course, with the Remake cleaning off all of the edges, it will make zero sense to now kill The Turks for the Plate Fall since Cloud and Co. are now completely squeaky clean now... fucking Nomura and the rest.

Adamant soul said:
Maester Mika (Final Fantasy X) - I agree with wanting to fight him but I do have to address something. He didn't Send himself to avoid seeing the world after the Yevon deception was unveiled, but because he genuinely believed there was no hope with the Final Aeon gone and that Yuna and company had just doomed Spira.

Also you technically do get to fight Mika in X-2 as one of the Via Infinito bosses, though that's not much of a consolation, much like with the next entry.
Click to expand...

It's weird because you could say that for all of the Maesters and some even had worse outlooks than Mika did. As you stated yourself, Mika fully believed the World was damned without The Final Aeon and Sent himself because there was no more hope. That comes off the complete opposite of being a villain that deserves a beating as he's more of a well-intentioned but ultimately pretty messed up bad guy.

Adamant soul said:
Jihl Nabat (Final Fantasy XIII) - Absolutely no argument here. Even worse than Mika because there's pretty much a perfect place where such a fight could have happened. Simply have Jihl head down to the engine room after Sazh and Vanille escape the brig, that way the pair get their own boss fight in Chapter 9 before reuniting with the party.

Jihl's inevitable failure to defeat them there would give a much better reason for Barthandelus to kill her and indeed would tie into his subsequent line about human weakness, ie "Without our help, death is all of which you're capable".
Click to expand...

Jihl got absolutely fucked over to an absolutely ridiculous degree considering she's the reason why Sazh is even involved in the plot and damn near killed Vanille.
It's ridiculous we get no real confrontation with her at all and she's ultimately just fodder to Barthandelus and it's worse as Cid Raines at the very least gets a far more memorable boss fight and still matters to the plot 2 games after his death.
Like FFXIII-2 exists and she's actually a pretty damn good "monster" to use once you level her up and her boss battle is genuinely difficult(You need to kill her flunkies in a certain time limit or her LB will wipe your ass out and even then, they benefit the shit out of her anyway meaning it's either killing all of them in a real short time or killing off the most beneficial to her currently and surviving her shit after) but yeah, there's no real pathos to it either. Shame really as her design is probably the most striking out of Barth's goons.

Adamant soul said:
Emperor Gestahl (Final Fantasy VI) - Haven't played the game myself but even from your description, I'd say it's arguably more satisfying that he's betrayed and murdered by one of his most heinous crimes that he had used as nothing but a tool. At least I'd say that's what the thought behind it was.

Queen Brahne (Final Fantasy IX) - Similar idea honestly, the karma of her being killed not only by her previous benefactor whose ideas she'd used to gain power but also by the Eidolon she had summoned to defeat him seems satisfying enough.
Click to expand...

Eh, both of them are ultimately missing the whole point if you want to fight them.
For all of Gestahl's bullshit(And he does alot of fucked up things including taking baby Terra from her dying mother and even kicking her away to basically damning the Espers by taking them with his forces for his Empire), his death by being outwitted by Kefka was ultimately his own fault. He basically saw little of Kefka despite being a monster born from his prototype Magitek soldier program and did nothing but use him as another one of his forces. So getting outwitted by him at the end(while losing all of his actual good soldiers because Kefka backstabbed all of them) was carthatic.

Queen Brahne is just weird as she literally cannot fight, Garnet will not allow anyone to fight her mom and even Alexandria was mourning her passing despite Vivi(being the surrogate character) stating he feels nothing for her death but it hurts seeing Garnet be sad. Her entire state is she got warped to being evil because of her original family(Husband and actual Daughter) all dying and Kuja swooped in and took advantage of a Queen in massive grief.
If anything, you think he would have put Beatrix on the list considering there is alot of outcry that "she got off too easily"(Which you can argue) and you never truly win against her at all(which is the point...)
 
Adamant soul

Adamant soul

Exceptional
Joined
Oct 1, 2021
Messages
3,457
Reaction score
3,644


NGPlus: Shows off and explains mind-blowing tricks and glitches in order to clear the game without wall-running.
Me: Fucking vibing with the game's top tier soundtrack he's got playing in the background :catjamn

Seriously though, I didn't see how he was going to do this when I read the title, I had no idea how many crazy movement tricks you could do in this game. Good shit!

And now I can shiver in horror at the idea of a Warrior Within version of this challenge, and having to do these tricks when the Dahaka is on your ass. :geezuspepe
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top