Street Fighter: discussion, feats, and analysis

Warlordgab

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Just like the old thread, here we are to consider the feats, calcs, and other stuff from the Street Fighter verse (which includes Final Fight, Rival Schools, and possibly Strider too)

Thanks to Honda/Hakan, the verse is currently around country level. Something that scales to top/god tiers such as Akuma/Gouki, Oni, Gouken, Oro, Evil Ryu, etc.

Anything notable about any character's stats and overall standing in the verse is welcome here.
 
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Warlordgab

Illustrious
I wanted to save Vivi's first post in the old thread



4:30 Jack bats Guile at MFTL speeds (an outlier by Vivi's own admission)

5:54 Hanase leaps out of earth's orbit and delivers a meteor strike

9:54 Zangief instantly lifts Blanka out of orbit and delivers a meteor suplex

I don't recall ever seeing a calc about these feats, but according to Vivi they could be anywhere from MSH+ to sub-relativistic by eyeballing



1:24 Bison's "suicide"



7:50 sub-relativistic Cycloid?

And Nep Heart's Final Fight calc:


3:14
So, I decided to do a quick calc on Haggar's over-the-top ultimate move from Final Fight Revenge. I will assume all the material was displaced at this speed since there is a huge explosion from the exit path that likely represents the material anyway. Keeping in mind of these following parameters below.

-Andore's shoulder span: 0.672 m (he's 240 m tall and shoulder span is about 28% of height)
-Earth's mean diameter: 7,918,000 m
-Earth's mean density: 5,517

Pi × 0.336^2 × 7.918e+6 = 2.8e+6 m^3

2.8e+6 × 5517 = 1.548e+10 kg

Since it took about 2 seconds for Andore to smash through Earth's diameter.

7.918e+6 ÷ 2 = 3.959e+6 m/s (mach 11,644)

Now for KE.

(3.959e+6)^2 × 1.548e+10 × 0.5 ÷ 4.184e+9 = 29 teratons of TNT

I'll probably bring more stuff later
 

Punchsplosion

Limit Breakdancer
SSS (God Tier)
  • Ingrid
    Time travel, space travel, and "true" psycho power. Defeats Pyron and other "cosmics" in other games. Possibly non-canon to SF.
SS (Top Tier, At Least Continental - Gill's Meteor Destruction, Shin Akuma's Meteor Destruction)
  • Strider Hiryu
    Confirmed to be apart of same universe. Lightspeed at least. Third Moon explosion puts him far into continental.
  • Grandmaster Meio
    Strong enough to kill 11 other Striders (including a couple of Special-A Class ones). Flight, teleportation, life creation, and many different forms of energy projection.
  • Gill
    Split the ocean with a gesture. Revived from the Shun Goku Satsu. Can casually grant people special powers.
  • Oni
    Tanked a supervolcanic eruption. Hyped as a fair amount stronger than Shin Akuma in SFIV. Things have changed since then.
  • Kage
    Had the advantage over Akuma briefly before being banished by a single attack. Functions the same way as Oni. Their battle is hinted in SFV Arcade Mode.
  • Akuma
    Split Ayer's Rock, sank multiple islands, kicked a sunken ocean liner in half, and destroyed souls. Design influences suggest that he is closer to Oni in power from SFV onwards. Can limit himself on a whim to fight lesser opponents.
  • Oro
    Equal to Shin Akuma as of SF3. Can limit himself on a whim to fight lesser opponents. 1-Armed still is too much for Mu no Ken Ryu.
  • Gouken
    Equal to Shin Akuma as of SFIV. Confirmation in SF6 from Ryu that Gouken is still way above him.
S (High Tier, At Least Continental - G's Critical Art is Called Pangaea Burst, Have to be comparable to Top Tier's in Order to Not Get Instantly Washed. See Mu no Ken Ryu vs SFV Akuma, Prime Gen versus SFV Akuma, G vs GIll)
  • G
    Hyped as the true villain for SFV by Capcom. Should be above Dark Moon Bison by a comfortable amount then. Described as a cosmic power that nobody understands. Would make no sense that he wouldn't be comparable to or greater than Mu no Ken Ryu. Will hang out here until we get more.
  • Mu no Ken Ryu
    Akuma seeks him out as an "equal" as of SFV. Lost to Akuma.
  • Full-Power Evil Ryu
    Below Shin Akuma, but definitely above everyone else.
  • Prime Gen
    Implied to be a "good" fight for Shin Akuma at his peak. Still think he is below the powerhouses of this tier.
  • Unrestrained Cody
    Hype. Oni hinted that Cody would live if he didn't hold back.
  • Dark Moon/Final/Shin Bison
    Definitely stronger than VT Necali. Dark Moon/Final/Shin forms confirmed to be at least equal. Dark Moon had the potential for more power. Can output power that would easily destroy Washington DC.
  • V Trigger Necalli
    Stronger than/equal to Dhalsim and all those below him.
  • Yoga Masters (Dhalsim/Sheila/Gulabjamun/Master Y/Jagjit/Amitabh/Mahabli G)
    Dhalsim trained Sagat in SFIV. Targeted by Necali as a strong soul in SFV. Oro's visit implied that he was strong. All of the 7 Yoga Masters are comparable to one another.
A (Mid-High Tier, Country Level - Honda/Hakan Meteor Bust & Haggar Spinning Piledriver Calc'ed at Hundreds of Teratons)
  • Ryu
    Lost to V-Trigger Necalli. Still stronger or comparable to everyone else.
  • Ken
    Comparable to Ryu.
  • Sagat
    Comparable to Ryu.
  • [Franke]Nash
    Stronger than Guile, implied to be a decent fight for Bison during his battle in Alpha, and comparable to non-Mu no Ken Ryu as of SFV.
  • Terminally-Sick Gen
    I put him here because Akuma does beat him and Ryu/Ken/Sagat have all gotten more powerful as the series progressed.
  • Handicapped Cody
    Implied to be able to one-shot Bison. Greater than/equal to Guy.
  • Guy
    Threatened Bison in SFIV to get him to drop Rose and forced the Big MB to flee.
  • Bison
    Everyone above him has beaten him or should be able to via powerscaling and showings. Sacrifice explosion was far more powerful than Chun's kikosho.
  • Rose
    Slightly below Bison. Fought G and did well.
  • Urien
    Loses to Ken later on. Beat a weakened Nash. Chun-Li "interested' him in their encounter. Will put him just below Bison.
  • Juri
    Curbed Chun-Li, Guile, and Cammy in canon. Implied to be able to beat Seth Prime.
  • Sakura
    Fights with Karin everyday. Most likely her equal/better. Has a victory over Zangief.
  • Akira
    Beat Karin in a battle.
  • Karin
    Implied to be above the likes of all the regular fighters. Comparable to Gief in SFV story panels.
  • Zangief
    Rival to Honda. Scales to Sakura & Karin.
  • Honda
    Busted a meteor with Hakan's help.
  • Hakan
    Busted a meteor with Honda's help.
  • Haggar
    Scales to Final Fight Cody and Guy. Can piledrive people through the Earth. Comparable to Zangief.
  • Zeku
    Definitely around Guy's level prior to being beaten. Since he was defeated way after the events of the Final Fight series and he stalemated Karin, he should be here.
  • Unnamed PC
    Defeated J.P.
  • J.P.
    Hype. Implied to be pretty powerful and compitent with Psycho Power. Can't see him being below this tier.
  • Q
    Hype. Hidden boss in SF3. However, NOTHING is known about him. Most likely a weakened form of G. Will keep him here for now.
B (Mid Tier, Most Likely Country Level - Have to be comparable to Mid-High's in Order to Not Get Instantly Washed. See Chun-Li versus Juri, Hugo vs Ryu, Etc)
  • Seth Prime/#15
    Ryu and anyone that scales to the main shoto beats him as of SF3. Implied that Juri could beat him. Bison destroys him in canon.
  • Kolin
    Beat Guile before having access to her ice powers. I imagine she is floating in this area after Gill's gift. Being below Urien by a fair amount makes sense.
  • Lucia
    Beat Abigail
  • Alex
    Lost to Ryu. Scales to Haggar somewhat. "Beat" Gill.
  • Hugo
    No-sold Ryu's strongest technique = Country level durability at least. Swung a semi like a baseball bat.
  • Poison
    Beat Abigail and is comparable to Hugo.
  • Abigail
    Final Fight boss. Very strong and durable. Implied to be decent fights for other strong fighters.
  • Ed
    Beat Balrog before being fully matured. Commander of Shadoloo and his own set of "Kings" after Bison's "death". All members of Neo Shadoloo are equal fractions of Bison's power.
  • Falke
    More skilled than Ed after he leaves Balrog. All members of Neo Shadoloo are equal fractions of Bison's power.
  • Baba Mwalimu
    All members of Neo Shadoloo are equal fractions of Bison's power.
  • Cypher
    All members of Neo Shadoloo are equal fractions of Bison's power.
  • C.Viper
    Demolished Cammy in the OVA, held her own against Ryu, but implied that she couldn't beat Seth Prime.
  • Vega
    Beats Cammy and most likely Guile/Chun-Li if he didn't play around. Went even with Chun-Li previously. Seems to be the strongest of the Kings.
  • Guile
    Lost to Juri. Lost to Kolin before her power-up from Gill. Has better showings against Bison than Chun-Li and Cammy.
  • Chun-Li
    Lost to Juri. Went even with Vega. However, might be because he likes to play.
  • Cammy
    Lost to Juri and C. Viper. However, could probably beat the other two current Kings of Shadoloo.
  • Balrog
    Comparable to the other Kings. Tanked the Shadoloo base detonation.
  • F.A.N.G
    New second-in-command for Bison. At least Balrog's level. Implied that Vega and Balrog would still beat him in a straight up fight.
C (Low Tier - Have to be comparable to Mid-Tier's in Order to Not Get Instantly Washed. See Rashid vs FANG.)
  • Everyone else but...
D (Joke Tier, Trips On Own Feet Level)
  • Dan
 
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Blade

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Ultra Perm Banned Instinct V-2

posting also the country level+ feat for honda, which scales casually to everyone important char from the cast :yousmart

[overall, read the pages and posts there]
 
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Warlordgab

Illustrious
Sherlocks's meteor calc:

Don't know if Sherlock will join... it would be a pity to lose this too:
Feat:

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Calc

All right, there is no clear way to scale the meteor size here. So lets go at it a bit round about way.

Inside the blue circle we can see the fragments of the meteor. Lets assume the length of that fragment is the entire length of the meteor.

Now in the bottom panel we can see the size of the meteor in comparison to earth. So, we can scale the meteor using earth's size.

Anyway, first lets scale the meteor size.

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Earth diameter, d = 532 pixel 12742000 meter

Fragmented piece length, l = 22.8035 pixel = 546169.74686 meter

There is a nice full picture of the whole meteor. We can calc the volume from that.

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Meteor length, l = 74.51845 pixel = 546169.74686 meter

Meteor width, w = (30+41.0487+35.5105+32.7566+20.8086)/5 pixel = 32.02488 pixel

Meteor width, w = 234720.6712 meter

Modelling the meteor as a cylinder,

Volume, V = pi*r^2*h = 23633073106815073.3581599 meter^3

Most meteorites are ordinary chondrites, and ordinary chondrites have a density half as much. Most ordinary chondrites are in the range 3.0 to 3.7 g/cm3, which is denser than most terrestrial rocks.

http://meteorites.wustl.edu/id/density.htm

Average Density of meteor p = 3350 kg/m^3

Meteor mass, m = v*p = 79170794907830495749.83586 kg

Meteors enter the atmosphere at speeds ranging from 11 km/sec (25,000 mph), to 72 km/sec (160,000 mph!).

https://www.amsmeteors.org/meteor-showers/meteor-faq/

Meteor speed v = 11000 meter/sec

Kinetic Energy = .5*m*v^2 = 4789833091923744992865069751.1275 joules

Kinetic Energy = 1.144797 Exatons of TNT


posting also the country level+ feat for honda, which scales casually to everyone important char from the cast :yousmart

[overall, read the pages and posts there]

Saved the entire page just in case the site gets nuked:
 

Warlordgab

Illustrious
Hey @Punchsplosion You forgot to bring your calcs....

More bit stuff, but great for comparing other characters to the main cast.

http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2016/...mpatriots-jagjit-amitabh-and-mahabali-g-here/

Most notably this behemoth named Mahabali G and his impressive lifting feat.

He became instantly famous when he accomplished the marvelous feet of lifting 4 huge elephants on top of his legs.

By huge, I am assuming that they are referencing full-grown Indian elephants. However, there have been instances of abnormally large elephants comparable to mammoths. Raja Gaj and Kanchha are two notorious examples. I will use the low-end as the maximum weight of a regular Indian elephant male.

4.5 tons x 4 = 22 tons

Now for the minimum weight of a mammoth elephant as a mid-end.

8.8 tons x 4 = 35.2 tons

And maximum weight of a mammoth as a high-end.

13 tons x 4 = 52 tons

All of these numbers line up well with Ryu's boulder and Hugo's diesel/semi lifting feats.

Mahabali G's Lifting Strength:

Low End: 22 tons
Mid End: 35.2 tons
High End: 52 tons

Hugo's lifting feat.



He effortlessly lifts his traveling semi (truck and trailer) and proceeds to murder a bunch of moron thugs.

I will use the bare minimum weight of the truck and trailer as a low end.

23,000 lbs (11.5 tons) + 12,000 lbs (6 tons) = 17.5 tons

Next, I will use the maximum allowable limit in the US, with a permit, as a mid end.

80,000 lbs = 40 tons

Finally, I will utilize the highest recorded load size in the US, sans a permit, as a high end.

165,000 lbs = 82.5 tons

Hugo's Lifting Strength

Low End: 17.5 tons
Mid End: 40 tons
High End: 82.5 tons


Time for the Ryu boulder lift.



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Pixel height: 175/100 = 1.75 cm

Boulder(1) length: 255 px x 1.75 cm = 446.25 cm

Boulder(1) height: 85 px x 1.75 cm = 148.75 cm

To get the width we have to look at the other image. The underside of the boulder is definitely no smaller than 4 feet so I will use it as a low end with 6 and 8 feet as mid and high ends.

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Boulder(1) width(s): 4 feet, 6 feet, 8 feet

Boulder(1) weight(s): [length(feet) x height(feet) x width(feet)]150 lbs/2000 lbs = total tons

Low End: (14.65 x 4.88 x 4)150/2000 = 21.45 tons

Mid End: (14.65 x 4.88 x 6) = 32.17 tons

High End: (14.65 x 4.88 x 8) = 42.9 tons

Boulder(2) length: 67 px x 1.75 cm = 117.25 cm

Boulder(2) height: 27 px x 1.75 = 47.25 cm

To get the width we have to assume that Oro is sitting on a top portion no smaller than 2 feet as his legs and butt completely fit on the surface with room to spare. So, I will use 2 feet as a low end, 2.5 feet as a mid end, and 3 feet as a high end.

Boulder(2) width(s): 2 feet, 3 feet

Boulder(2) weight(s): [length(feet) x height(feet) x width(feet)]150 lbs/2000 lbs = total tons

Low End: (3.85 x 1.55 x 2)150/2000 = .89 tons

Mid End: (3.85 x 1.55 x 2.5)150/2000 = 1.12 tons

High End: (3.85 x 1.55 x3)150/2000 = 1.3 tons

Total Boulder Weight(s):

Low End: 22.34 tons
Mid End: 33.39 tons
High End: 44.2 tons
 

Punchsplosion

Limit Breakdancer
Hey @Punchsplosion You forgot to bring your calcs....

More bit stuff, but great for comparing other characters to the main cast.

http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2016/...mpatriots-jagjit-amitabh-and-mahabali-g-here/

Most notably this behemoth named Mahabali G and his impressive lifting feat.

He became instantly famous when he accomplished the marvelous feet of lifting 4 huge elephants on top of his legs.

By huge, I am assuming that they are referencing full-grown Indian elephants. However, there have been instances of abnormally large elephants comparable to mammoths. Raja Gaj and Kanchha are two notorious examples. I will use the low-end as the maximum weight of a regular Indian elephant male.

4.5 tons x 4 = 22 tons

Now for the minimum weight of a mammoth elephant as a mid-end.

8.8 tons x 4 = 35.2 tons

And maximum weight of a mammoth as a high-end.

13 tons x 4 = 52 tons

All of these numbers line up well with Ryu's boulder and Hugo's diesel/semi lifting feats.

Mahabali G's Lifting Strength:

Low End: 22 tons
Mid End: 35.2 tons
High End: 52 tons

Hugo's lifting feat.



He effortlessly lifts his traveling semi (truck and trailer) and proceeds to murder a bunch of moron thugs.

I will use the bare minimum weight of the truck and trailer as a low end.

23,000 lbs (11.5 tons) + 12,000 lbs (6 tons) = 17.5 tons

Next, I will use the maximum allowable limit in the US, with a permit, as a mid end.

80,000 lbs = 40 tons

Finally, I will utilize the highest recorded load size in the US, sans a permit, as a high end.

165,000 lbs = 82.5 tons

Hugo's Lifting Strength

Low End: 17.5 tons
Mid End: 40 tons
High End: 82.5 tons


Time for the Ryu boulder lift.



14222120_10101145493090164_1098400941650976424_n.jpg


Pixel height: 175/100 = 1.75 cm

Boulder(1) length: 255 px x 1.75 cm = 446.25 cm

Boulder(1) height: 85 px x 1.75 cm = 148.75 cm

To get the width we have to look at the other image. The underside of the boulder is definitely no smaller than 4 feet so I will use it as a low end with 6 and 8 feet as mid and high ends.

14212195_10101145493085174_252696642741048048_n.jpg


Boulder(1) width(s): 4 feet, 6 feet, 8 feet

Boulder(1) weight(s): [length(feet) x height(feet) x width(feet)]150 lbs/2000 lbs = total tons

Low End: (14.65 x 4.88 x 4)150/2000 = 21.45 tons

Mid End: (14.65 x 4.88 x 6) = 32.17 tons

High End: (14.65 x 4.88 x 8) = 42.9 tons

Boulder(2) length: 67 px x 1.75 cm = 117.25 cm

Boulder(2) height: 27 px x 1.75 = 47.25 cm

To get the width we have to assume that Oro is sitting on a top portion no smaller than 2 feet as his legs and butt completely fit on the surface with room to spare. So, I will use 2 feet as a low end, 2.5 feet as a mid end, and 3 feet as a high end.

Boulder(2) width(s): 2 feet, 3 feet

Boulder(2) weight(s): [length(feet) x height(feet) x width(feet)]150 lbs/2000 lbs = total tons

Low End: (3.85 x 1.55 x 2)150/2000 = .89 tons

Mid End: (3.85 x 1.55 x 2.5)150/2000 = 1.12 tons

High End: (3.85 x 1.55 x3)150/2000 = 1.3 tons

Total Boulder Weight(s):

Low End: 22.34 tons
Mid End: 33.39 tons
High End: 44.2 tons

Oh shit! Thanks!
 

Punchsplosion

Limit Breakdancer
Interesting bit.


Ed, Falke, Baba (the gorilla), and the unnamed teleporter are all fractions (assumed equal) of Bison's power and specific abilities. The intent was for Bison to horcrux himself back together if he needed to. Pretty crazy shit from his end. He got that money hax all over.

Ed - Can emit Psycho Power from his body
Falke - Can imbue items with Psycho Power
Baba - Super smart and wise
Unnamed "G" Guy - Can teleport

This explains why Falke was an equal to Ed in the story mode. I'm going to add the Gorilla and Unnamed Teleporter to the tier list.
 
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