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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 3: Laugh Hard with a Vengence

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Enough with the Adam smasher threads. Jesus christ

Now you understand me when they do too many Fate threads over there...


...The fuck is even this thread?!


I'm not even going to dignify this stupid thread with a response anymore.
 

This fight take place in the Dead Universe, which is made up of multiple universes, and each universe in transformers is infinite. IDW does not cap at Universal lmao. Not even Multiversal with characters like The One.
:lolwat


what the fuck

The One has literally only ever showed up in ONE PANEL in Marvel era
The Dead Universe is just that, one universe, and it's actually confirmed to be a pocket universe. Any idea from Heart of Darkness of it being some kind of multiversal entity got completely retconned out by the same comics that show it born from a big bang and immediately sucked up by Shockwave and by AVP
 


:lolwat


what the fuck

The One has literally only ever showed up in ONE PANEL in Marvel era
The Dead Universe is just that, one universe, and it's actually confirmed to be a pocket universe. Any idea from Heart of Darkness of it being some kind of multiversal entity got completely retconned out by the same comics that show it born from a big bang and immediately sucked up by Shockwave and by AVP
>called a singular universe
>but somehow holds multiple universes
My man ain't using his critical thinking skills
 
>called a singular universe
>but somehow holds multiple universes
My man ain't using his critical thinking skills
talking to him a bit more he's actually cool the issue is he's applying other continuities directly to IDW and kinda misunderstanding how TF's multiverse works, which I don't blame him bc...not very many people get it. But even without the infinite infinity nonsense, TFCC basically doesn't really affect IDW in any way that characters would scale from it is the short version. IDW has a couple Universe+ characters and that's it. Respectable for sure but there are several TF continuities stronger.
 

..I have no words.
 

@Astaro
>zarc
>standing a chance against Z-One
LMAO
It does seem people wank the shit out of Arc V and downplay the shit out of the others, although mostly ZEXAL. Like that FV protagonist rating thread, where multiple people tried to claim Yuma not only has no character development, but also never got ANY better as a duelist while rating Yuya extremely high. :kobeha

As for that thread, isn't Z-Arc at his most effective against shit like fusions, synchro, XYZ? While Z-ONE's monsters are all just normal effect ones? Isn't Z-ONE actually kind of a hard counter for Z-Arc on those grounds? :maybe
 
It does seem people wank the shit out of Arc V and downplay the shit out of the others, although mostly ZEXAL. Like that FV protagonist rating thread, where multiple people tried to claim Yuma not only has no character development, but also never got ANY better as a duelist while rating Yuya extremely high. :kobeha

As for that thread, isn't Z-Arc at his most effective against shit like fusions, synchro, XYZ? While Z-ONE's monsters are all just normal effect ones? Isn't Z-ONE actually kind of a hard counter for Z-Arc on those grounds? :maybe
Zone is a maximum Counter to Zarc considering that he has a time Lord that yeets all monsters in the gy back into the deck which turns off Zarcs protection effect
:hestonpls
 
Zone is a maximum Counter to Zarc considering that he has a time Lord that yeets all monsters in the gy back into the deck which turns off Zarcs protection effect
:hestonpls
"Bu, but Z-Arc's from a later series and dueled like 12 people and shit." :mjpls

Deck composition still matters people, if they don't have an answer to something, they don't have an answer to it and Z-Arc has no answer to Z-One's Time Machine Deities.

It's ironic that in Z-Arc's case specifically, earlier series characters actually have a much better chance against him than later ones, because they don't use the types of cards his deck is built to beat. Darkness and Dartz would unironically be hard matches for him. :maybe
 
Your evaluation is flawed for several reasons.
Oh do tell Mar?
The cage didn't just contain him, it no sold his onslaught of Getsugas.
IE it contained him, it wouldn't have contained him if it couldn't no-sell his attacks.
That means he has no chance of even scratching it, so it's not capped there for durability.
Uh yeah it is actually, since there's nothing to suggest it would take a stronger attack the same way.
Then we have to ask; how strong is Ichigo and who's above him?
By this point he was about Soul Reaper Aizen level and you damn well know it Mar.

So anyone above that level, stop playing dumb.
To what degree?
To any significant degree.
Can they suddenly damage a structure that wasn't nicked from Ichigo's best continuous efforts?
Can it suddenly block an attack considerably stronger than any it's taken before? Without any feats to suggest so?
Etc. I could go on.
You could and you would continue to be full of shit. :maybe
Are you illiterate MonkeyBananas?

Considering the following I'm inclined to say you are.
This is stupid logic it’s like saying the strongest person that H2 Ichigo beat is Ulquiorra so he loses to Harribel
Several problems with that comparison.
  1. We can't prove Harribel is stronger than Ulquiorra or vice versa.
  2. We've actually seen performances similar to H2's against Top Espada from other characters (such as Harribel getting stomped in similar fashion against Aizen) and therefore have REASON to believe his upper limit is significantly above Ulquiorra. Not so with The Jail.
  3. Suggesting The Jail can block attacks from people significantly stronger than anything it's actually blocked, without additional evidence, is "textbook No Limits Fallacy".
It’s actually textbook argument from ignorance (the fallacy).
He says while partaking in a blatant No Limits Fallacy.

Throwing around and accusing everyone of Fallacy's doesn't make you seem smart MonkeyBananas. Especially when half the time you're wrong in it being a fallacy to begin with, and the other half you're own argument is just as Fallacious if not more so.

This is just your way of hand waving any argument you don't like, or the need for evidence to support your shit. Like how I MUST treat Komamura's Bankai as if it's super strong, despite it lacking any feats (prior to a massive assassination power up), Bankai varying widely in terms of how strong they are to begin with and it even lacking any real hype in the manga itself.

Nah we have to inflate Tosen's performance 'cause catching a Bankai is just inherently impressive (no matter how featless said Bankai is). Now don't get me wrong, it IS worth noting, I just don't see it as pushing Tosen ABOVE the Espada because Sajin lacks feats.
What is with this section and using that?
It's almost like I'm not actually arguing from ignorance, just using the actual feats of the characters or abilities to determine their level and not pulling shit out of my ass like the rest of that section does.

And they're inconsistent with that too. Sometimes shit doesn't require evidence like Komamura's bankai, but they're not prepared to give Harribel ANY scaling regardless of how Espada ranks canonically work and her having much more justification for it. 🤦‍♂️
 
TBF if it was Anime ZARC he'd probably pull some bullshit effect out of his ass after getting yeeted and flood the field with all 5 dimension dragons or some shit :hestonpls

On some playground andy shit
 
TBF if it was Anime ZARC he'd probably pull some bullshit effect out of his ass after getting yeeted and flood the field with all 5 dimension dragons or some shit :hestonpls

On some playground andy shit
I actually watched an anime duel where that happened and it did fuck all because Timelords don't care and immediately board wiped his ass because timelords cannot be destroyed by battle or card effects and Sephylon makes all their attacks 4K which means they beat over all of Zarcs shit
:hestonpls
 
I actually watched an anime duel where that happened and it did fuck all because Timelords don't care and immediately board wiped his ass because timelords cannot be destroyed by battle or card effects and Sephylon makes all their attacks 4K which means they beat over all of Zarcs shit
:hestonpls
Anime ZARC be like

Because you wiped my board I actually went back in time and aborted you and your deck as a child, I banish your entire deck and you take intrusion penalty damage because you don't exist I am zarc I can't lose i am the ultimate duelist > : (



ZONE be like "Set 5 Pass : )"
 

  1. Quetzalcoatl's Piedra del Sol: solar winds
  2. Moriarty's Dynamics of an Asteroid: Bennu impact
  3. Ozymandias' Dendera Lightbulb: heat of a solar flare
  4. Quetzalcoatl's Xiuhcoatl/Ultimo Tope Patada: Chicxulub asteroid impact
  5. Wodime's meteor rain magecraft
  6. Crimson Moon dropping a mirror image of the moon on her
  7. U-Olga Marie: mini black hole
  8. Goetia's Light Bands: supernova
R2: She fights the gauntlet in 1v1

Rules:

  • Animes, manga and GAMES feats for Kaguya
  • All equipment is allowed
  • Takes place in Ars Paulina
  • They start 1km apart
  • Win by death or KO but not BFR

Hey, this actually is a thread for once that makes some level of sense... primarily due to adding Game Feats.

But again, SB members be on some bullshit with Kaguya for the worst reasons:
She dropped her planet buster on herself while exhausted to the point of collapsing. So up to r7 at the very least.

This is an argument in itself, but I doubt she was immune to its erasure ability just because she was an otsutsuki or had six paths chakra. Both Naruto and Sasuke had six paths chakra, were reincarnations of otsutsuki, and had access to senjutsu. This practically made them immune to the TSB of Obito and Madara to the point where Naruto kicks one right back at Madara.

But both Zetsu and Kaguya who should know what six paths chakra and senjutsu entails, were completely confident that it was going to murder Naruto and his team who should already be immune to TSB erasure.

I also do not attribute that to her durability. I think that move would have atomized her completely, but it's just that she would have regenerated from it thanks to her immortality. So that would a feat for her regeneration, not her durability, but I have no proof so its just a speculation.

Look, I get not believing the higher end interpretation of her pocket dimension, but that thing is definitely as big as a planet, and saying she can't destroy it when she says she can, Zetsu says she can, and the protagonist group believes she can and has to stop her from doing so is way too uncharitable.


Regardless of everything else, she could just 'flow' back into Kaguya from some white mass of her popped Kaiju form, so I'm pretty sure no raw physicial trauma or cut will kill her. I also think one can reasonably assume her regeneration is capable of dealing with cellural-level stuff, since the Rasenshuriken isn't brought up as a counter even though it was used against Edo Tensei.


I think she'd probably survive up to 6, but that last one could be argued. I don't believe resisting TSB equates to resisting a singularity's (the science kind) effects on matter, so the mini-black hole should work. The higher interpretations of her immortality could let her survive the light bands.

I don't understand how Naruto fanatics fail to realize 2 things when it comes to Kaguya's "Immortality"

1. The absence of evidence is not the proof that said absence is proof of evidence. The only thing we have seen from why she was sealed by Hagouromo and his brother was not due to the fact they couldn't kill her but that she was TOO POWERFUL for them to conventionally defeat. Her "Immortality" only extends to being able to live for a supremely long time and a decently strong regen, I don't understand how they think she can survive being disintegrated down to her atoms as if she's Majin Buu.

2. Kaguya did create that enormous Planet Busting TSB but here's the problem: The story heavily states that she was BLUFFING and literally did it as an intimidation tactic, not as something she can SURVIVE but more of trying to make everyone else scared and give her some actual reprieve and kill when they lose heart or scatter. It's clearly obvious it vanishes the second she gets attacked which further implies it was never meant to actually destroy anything or it would have killed her too.

3. I'm so fucking tired of how people do not understand how Rasenshuriken works...
Rasenshuriken damaging your cells does not suddenly detract from your durability because what ARE your skin, muscles and bones but fucking CELLS!
Hell, in it's introduction, Kakuzu wasn't even reduced to a pile of sludge had to be killed by Kakashi and that only happened to a Pain body which is a deceased corpse funneled with Chakra that Nagato can turn off at will(Which we know can boost a Ninja's body, reflexes, etc.), hell, The Third Raikage straight up tanks it and barely takes any damage despite Edo Tensei replicates what the user was when they was alive, it doesn't turn you into a paperweight.
Rasenshuriken doesn't ignore durability in the slightest, if you are able to survive an attack at all and you aren't hurt? Neither are your cells, that's literally how that works. If your skin is bruised? Your cells took some damage but the other parts of you took the damage and so on.
 



Hey, this actually is a thread for once that makes some level of sense... primarily due to adding Game Feats.

But again, SB members be on some bullshit with Kaguya for the worst reasons:






I don't understand how Naruto fanatics fail to realize 2 things when it comes to Kaguya's "Immortality"

1. The absence of evidence is not the proof that said absence is proof of evidence. The only thing we have seen from why she was sealed by Hagouromo and his brother was not due to the fact they couldn't kill her but that she was TOO POWERFUL for them to conventionally defeat. Her "Immortality" only extends to being able to live for a supremely long time and a decently strong regen, I don't understand how they think she can survive being disintegrated down to her atoms as if she's Majin Buu.

2. Kaguya did create that enormous Planet Busting TSB but here's the problem: The story heavily states that she was BLUFFING and literally did it as an intimidation tactic, not as something she can SURVIVE but more of trying to make everyone else scared and give her some actual reprieve and kill when they lose heart or scatter. It's clearly obvious it vanishes the second she gets attacked which further implies it was never meant to actually destroy anything or it would have killed her too.

3. I'm so fucking tired of how people do not understand how Rasenshuriken works...
Rasenshuriken damaging your cells does not suddenly detract from your durability because what ARE your skin, muscles and bones but fucking CELLS!
Hell, in it's introduction, Kakuzu wasn't even reduced to a pile of sludge had to be killed by Kakashi and that only happened to a Pain body which is a deceased corpse funneled with Chakra that Nagato can turn off at will(Which we know can boost a Ninja's body, reflexes, etc.), hell, The Third Raikage straight up tanks it and barely takes any damage despite Edo Tensei replicates what the user was when they was alive, it doesn't turn you into a paperweight.
Rasenshuriken doesn't ignore durability in the slightest, if you are able to survive an attack at all and you aren't hurt? Neither are your cells, that's literally how that works. If your skin is bruised? Your cells took some damage but the other parts of you took the damage and so on.
Try bringing up the same points when Madara stans mention his immortality. Shit will make you lose brain cells :mjlol .
 
Try bringing up the same points when Madara stans mention his immortality. Shit will make you lose brain cells :mjlol .

Seriously, people keep saying Bleachtards are the worst(and to be frank, they are 2nd best) but Narutards at their core and at their height? Was absolutely intolerable.

Uchiha memes running rampant, people trying to say Kaguya can bust Universes and Madara is undefeatable...
Such a fucking mess.
 

had xelio ask me if anyone in marvel could replicate Gerard's voice feat :mjlol
 
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