Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 3: Laugh Hard with a Vengence

[seth]

@Maddie

LordTracer/DC Tier 3-2 Feats

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looks like they are going ahead for the nth try for universal superman

 

[Masterblack06]

Gogeta (DBZ) vs Goetia (FGO)

Always got these two’s names confused so decided to make them fight The Ultimate Fusion Vs The King of the Demon Gods Rules Everyone here is in character, and has their standard gear. Both are at their Strongest Movie Canon will be used for Gogeta This will take place in the Time Temple...

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[Proto234]

They wouldn't get to him in the first place though?
People misunderstand how fucking bullshit the Singularities actually are until you really understand what each one had:

- Singularity F: Outside of a few outliers, they basically had the entire F/SN cast there in "Altered" forms and it's heavily implied all of them threw the fight and wanted to keep Humanity around

- Orleans: Jeanne Alter(Someone comparable to Saber Alter), Gilles De Rais and a whole ass load of Servants, Wyverns and fucking FAFNIR(If it can block Vasavi Shakti which can delete anything including a virtual World at only the cost of it's wings? Yeah it's nonsense)

- Septem: Romulus and Altera, enough said

- Okeanos: Heracles, enough said

- America: Cu Alter, someone stronger than Artoria overall, Karna AND Arjuna along with another person that can easily wipe out Continents(Fergus).

- Camelot: The entire goddamned Knights of the Round and Ms. "I'm so bullshit powerful, my fucking weapon still remains relevant even in future stories like a weapon that can reduce Nasu Planets to ASHES and can defeat Animus Animusphere"
A reminder that this feat you are seeing is one done when he didn't have his Noble Phantasm and was FUCKING AROUND:

Yeah... I don't need to mention Tiamat or Goetia either...

Ignoring the main thread, tbh I really don't think Morgan's Rhongomyniad and LK's Rhongo is the exact same since they have different kanji for true name

Morgan's Rhongo is
霊脈閉塞型兵装- Spiritual vein obstruction type armnament

LK's Rhongo is
最果てにて輝ける槍- Lance that shines to ends of the world

Which implies Morgan's Rhongo is a dedicated weapon and not having another functions like LK's one

 

[ZenithXAbyss]

You already need star levels of mass to get that kind of gravity.

No, you don’t. It pulled some trees and a bunch of dirt.
ha
If she has mass on the levels of stars, she would’ve bent space and induce spaghettification.

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

Ignoring the main thread, tbh I really don't think Morgan's Rhongomyniad and LK's Rhongo is the exact same since they have different kanji for true name

Morgan's Rhongo is
霊脈閉塞型兵装- Spiritual vein obstruction type armnament

LK's Rhongo is
最果てにて輝ける槍- Lance that shines to ends of the world

Which implies Morgan's Rhongo is a dedicated weapon and not having another functions like LK's one

No, they are basically the same weapon, Morgan just created hers through Magecraft, Lion King/Artoria's is from the Splinter of the actual Tower but they are explicitly stated to be at the same level of power regardless so it's a pointless difference.

 

[Proto234]

No, they are basically the same weapon, Morgan just created hers through Magecraft, Lion King/Artoria's is from the Splinter of the actual Tower but they are explicitly stated to be at the same level of power regardless so it's a pointless difference.

Still, the fact that both has different kanji shows that they're not the same.
I mean, both Goetia and Romani has Ars Nova, but their true name kanji is different and their function massively differ

 

[Atem]

High-End Living Tribunal vs the Xeelee and Time Lords

High-End Living Tribunal vs the Xeelee and Time Lords Alliance We all know the Living Tribunal, especially recently, has quite an incredible amount of anti-feats gathered up, such as losing to the ASI Godmind or being unable to defeat Korvac. For this battle, we are taking high-end Living...

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Every time I read anything from Xelee it feels like Neil deGrasse Tyson's wet dreams. Down to romanticizing science to a fantastical degree to the point it's nauseating. Hate science fiction settings that reach retarded power levels but don't admit it's just fucking magic at that point. "No, all of this is totally plausible whilst adhering to science. Believe me, please." Then you read that the Xelee aren't even the top dogs in their own multiverse, and you can't help but laugh.

It's why I love Star Wars and Starship's Mage. They admit none of this is possible without some kind of supernatural force.

Then you get to the Downstreamers and it feels like whoever wrote them got beat up by LOTR larpers in grade school, and shoved in a locker every day. "I will make a scientifically advanced race so ahead of us they solo 99.9999 % of fiction. That will show them!" Oh, and get this, they're post humanity. It's what humanity becomes. We are just that smart we become beyond any god. Which even Neil deGrasse Tyson would have problems with because he kinda has a dim view of our importance in the universe.

Even the way they're described is so self-masturbatory. Religious people who think we're the greatest creation of some abstract deity don't glorify humanity as much as these people do. Cause even they draw the line before the point where they are like: "Yes, humanity is the greatest and first intelligence ever. We're actually God."

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

Still, the fact that both has different kanji shows that they're not the same.
I mean, both Goetia and Romani has Ars Nova, but their true name kanji is different and their function massively differ

Uh, Goetia doesn't HAVE Ars Nova, that's the point of Goetia having it be completely different.
He has no idea what Ars Nova does because he's apeing off of Solomon and he hates Solomon so he's just winging it, that's why he's so surprised at what it actually does and Solomon basically forever sealing himself away completely shook him so bad.

And again, Morgan and Artoria's Rhongomyniads are created in different ways(Morgan's was made from Magecraft and Artoria's came from the Shadow of the Tower) but they are explicitly stated to ultimately be the same deal at the end of the day.
This is the same thing as me saying that Douman's Counterfeit Tree of Emptiness in Heian-Kyo isn't the same despite the very series has consistently went against that notion:

Something being a copy doesn't mean it's inferior to the original. Rhongomyniad is Rhongomyniad, no matter how it's created especially since Morgan's version all but behaves like a Divine Construct and is basically seen as one in the story and narration.

 

[Gordo]

DIO Brando (Part 3 JJBA) vs Infinite (Sonic Forces)

Dio is somewhere in the single digits machs. Infinite is around lightspeed. One of these is faster than the other.

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Veles really tried to downplay Infinite huh, just cuz of the memes about him

kinda funny that even Siriel said Sonic characters are lightspeed/FTL. Surprised he was defending Infinite here

 

[Atem]

These are two extremes I notice with science fiction:

They're either Niel deGrasse Tyson and think we're literally dog shit, or they are Lionel Suggs and think we're god. No cap. For real, for real. It's why science fantasy should become more popular. Science needs the fantasy part to humble it, and make it realize that science isn't built to give us answers. Just observations on existing phenomena. Which also change as our ability to observe changes.

It's like the Time Lords being such big babies about magic that they erased it from existence. You can bet some writer was twisting his or her ball sack over how "unrealistic" fantasy is. Reeked of a self-insert super science dweeb.

 

[Paxton]

Uh, Goetia doesn't HAVE Ars Nova, that's the point of Goetia having it be completely different.
He has no idea what Ars Nova does because he's apeing off of Solomon and he hates Solomon so he's just winging it, that's why he's so surprised at what it actually does and Solomon basically forever sealing himself away completely shook him so bad.

And again, Morgan and Artoria's Rhongomyniads are created in different ways(Morgan's was made from Magecraft and Artoria's came from the Shadow of the Tower) but they are explicitly stated to ultimately be the same deal at the end of the day.
This is the same thing as me saying that Douman's Counterfeit Tree of Emptiness in Heian-Kyo isn't the same despite the very series has consistently went against that notion:

Something being a copy doesn't mean it's inferior to the original. Rhongomyniad is Rhongomyniad, no matter how it's created especially since Morgan's version all but behaves like a Divine Construct and is basically seen as one in the story and narration.

Calm down Mr. Emiya.

 

[Gordo]

TEAM RWBY (RWBY) vs Infinite (Sonic The Hedgehog)

Team RWBY faces off against Infinite from Sonic The Hedgehog. They get all feats from Sonic Forces/RWBY Web Series. They get all their gear across the timespan of their appearances. They are in-character, with the objective being DEATH! YES, LET BLOOD SPILL FOR THE EDGE GOD THAT IS I! They are...

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[Masterblack06]

Kevin Kaslana (Honkai) goes through every Endbringer (Worm)

Standard arms, current ver, basic intel, morals off, no prep, win by knockdown (for at least 1 hour) Fight in neutral battlefield - Daylight - 800 ft apart Kevin will go through every Endbringer one by one Which one he beats? Which one he doesn't? Bonus : Replace Endbringers with Titans

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This Kevin nigga has become sb new pet jesus

 

[Proto234]

Uh, Goetia doesn't HAVE Ars Nova, that's the point of Goetia having it be completely different.
He has no idea what Ars Nova does because he's apeing off of Solomon and he hates Solomon so he's just winging it, that's why he's so surprised at what it actually does and Solomon basically forever sealing himself away completely shook him so bad.

And again, Morgan and Artoria's Rhongomyniads are created in different ways(Morgan's was made from Magecraft and Artoria's came from the Shadow of the Tower) but they are explicitly stated to ultimately be the same deal at the end of the day.
This is the same thing as me saying that Douman's Counterfeit Tree of Emptiness in Heian-Kyo isn't the same despite the very series has consistently went against that notion:

Something being a copy doesn't mean it's inferior to the original. Rhongomyniad is Rhongomyniad, no matter how it's created especially since Morgan's version all but behaves like a Divine Construct and is basically seen as one in the story and narration.

I know Goetia doesn't have the genuine Ars Nova, but his light bands are called Ars Nova so technically he does have it (regardless of functions)

And regarding Rhongo, Morgan and Artoria's Rhongo are still completely have completely different function since Morgan's one is a dedicated weapon while Artoria's main purpose is for maintaining world stability (its
weapon function is just bonus)

And of course I didn't imply Morgan's inferior (how could I when Morgan (and Castoria) is probably the only Saber-face that I respect). For all we know, hers might be more powerful due to hers is made to be a dedicated weapon (doubt Morgan will care about world's stability). Morgan's also didn't have 13 seal unlike Artoria's

 

[Masterblack06]

>people requesting feats the absolute zero could work on an endbringer


My guy that's not how that works

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

Calm down Mr. Emiya.

That's not me being Mr. EMIYA, it's a literal part of the core series.

 

[Paxton]

That's not me being Mr. EMIYA, it's a literal part of the core series.

I know.

 

[Paxton]

Kevin Kaslana (Honkai) goes through every Endbringer (Worm)

Standard arms, current ver, basic intel, morals off, no prep, win by knockdown (for at least 1 hour) Fight in neutral battlefield - Daylight - 800 ft apart Kevin will go through every Endbringer one by one Which one he beats? Which one he doesn't? Bonus : Replace Endbringers with Titans

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This Kevin nigga has become sb new pet jesus

I sure can't wait for them to make a thread with him and To Aru

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

I know Goetia doesn't have the genuine Ars Nova, but his light bands are called Ars Nova so technically he does have it (regardless of functions)

The Light Bands aren't called Ars Nova, they are called Ars Almadel Salomonis:
Ars Almadel Salomonis
The Time of Birth has Come, He is the One who Masters All
Rank: EX
Type: Anti-Unit Noble Phantasm

Ars Almadel Salomonis.
The third Noble Phantasm. The I of the original sin. The light that tells of the end of mankind.
By converting the heat value of the entirety of human history, this lightbelt is compiled hundred millions of times, accelerated, and converged, making it possible of the retrogression of vast lenght of time.

This is what Ars Nova is stated in the Materials for Goetia:
Ars Nova
The Time of Parting has Come, He is the One who Lets Go of the World
Rank: D
Type: Anti-Unit Noble Phantasm
Range: -
Maximum target: 1 person

Ars Nova.
The First Noble Phantasm. While Goetia knows that this is "the Noble Phantasm belonging to the other Solomon", he is not aware of the detail.
No. He is unable to be aware of it.

Goetia not only doesn't know how it works, he's completely unable to even know how it functions as it's anti-thetical to everything he knows about Solomon.
He literally just has it because Solomon does, that's it.

And regarding Rhongo, Morgan and Artoria's Rhongo are still completely have completely different function since Morgan's one is a dedicated weapon while Artoria's main purpose is for maintaining world stability (its
weapon function is just bonus)

...Both of them are that...
Artoria's Rhongomyniad is literally the Weapon variant of Rhongomyniad, it may be a "splinter" of the Tower but it IS the weapon that came from the Tower and can use the function from the Tower through the Weapon.
Morgan's, while created from Magecraft, functions ultimately the same way because that's how ridiculous her Magecraft abilities became(Something even her PHH self did, literally creating the Gift to infect Tristan with despite not having Rhongomyniad).

And of course I didn't imply Morgan's inferior (how could I when Morgan (and Castoria) is probably the only Saber-face that I respect). For all we know, hers might be more powerful due to hers is made to be a dedicated weapon (doubt Morgan will care about world's stability). Morgan's also didn't have 13 seal unlike Artoria's

... It's literally stated in LB6 Morgan's Rhongomyniad is the same level as the Lion King's... and her Rhongomyniad is no more different than Artoria's because it's the same weapon.
Again, there's no difference between them, they are the same object, just created differently.

 

[Proto234]

The Light Bands aren't called Ars Nova, they are called Ars Almadel Salomonis:
Ars Almadel Salomonis
The Time of Birth has Come, He is the One who Masters All
Rank: EX
Type: Anti-Unit Noble Phantasm


This is what Ars Nova is stated in the Materials for Goetia:
Ars Nova
The Time of Parting has Come, He is the One who Lets Go of the World
Rank: D
Type: Anti-Unit Noble Phantasm
Range: -
Maximum target: 1 person



Goetia not only doesn't know how it works, he's completely unable to even know how it functions as it's anti-thetical to everything he knows about Solomon.
He literally just has it because Solomon does, that's it.



...Both of them are that...
Artoria's Rhongomyniad is literally the Weapon variant of Rhongomyniad, it may be a "splinter" of the Tower but it IS the weapon that came from the Tower and can use the function from the Tower through the Weapon.
Morgan's, while created from Magecraft, functions ultimately the same way because that's how ridiculous her Magecraft abilities became(Something even her PHH self did, literally creating the Gift to infect Tristan with despite not having Rhongomyniad).



... It's literally stated in LB6 Morgan's Rhongomyniad is the same level as the Lion King's... and her Rhongomyniad is no more different than Artoria's because it's the same weapon.
Again, there's no difference between them, they are the same object, just created differently.

I'm talking about below link

Ars Nova

Ars NovaWP: The Time of Parting Has Come, He Is the One who Lets Go of the World (訣別の時きたれり、其は世界を手放すもの(アルス・ノヴァ), Ketsubetsu no Toki Kitareri, So wa Sekai o Tebanasu Mono(Arusu Nova)?) is the first Noble Phantasm of Solomon. It is the crystallization of the legend in which Solomon returned his...

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where Goetia has his own (fake) Ars Nova(light band convergence ring), which is his virtual NP used for calculating genesis (not to be confused with AAS which is light band used to incernating earth)

For LK part, can you show me which part in LB6? Since afaik Lion King isn't mentioned at all in the chapter