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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 4 Part 2: Electric Boogaloo

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Salfarc said:
Nah, thats kinda the theme in FT.

You can be so strong that you stomp a character from FT guild for like 10 battle, then on the 11th they suddenly got massive power boost that suddenly dwarf you and you lose to them and that's it. Even DBZ have more flow in power boost then FT.

It's literally just the power of plot.
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Let me put this in a better standing then:

Natsu when he killed that War God in one punch had an entire arc that was him and the other members of Fairy Tail fresh out of a training arc to deal with Zeref and his Spriggan 12 and they absolutely demolished their opponents without even a single issue whatsoever. There was no legit plot or anything that had Natsu do that, it was explicitly done to show how strong Natsu and Co. are now and how strong their future adversaries are.

Nothing shows that DiMaria or Chronos is any stronger outside of her dealing with Wendy, Lucy and someone I forgot. That's the point I'm making here(Especially since DiMaria's whole thing is taking over random Gods' for their special abilities.

Triple Accel 555 said:
Can't really believe single fanfic can shaken some fairy tail fans.
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It never stops being funny when people have to literally fan-fic fights just so who want what they win does over that same thing. Morgan in character does love to fight but she isn't stupid enough to pick fights she cannot win and DiMaria in character is a sadist on her worst day meaning she would try and torture Morgan to death and die from that. Hell in character, the Spriggan 12 would be the FIRST she would demolish just to get them off the board. It's also funny that dude acts like that "Fairy Tail Mages have hax and shit" when Fairies in the Nasuverse has hax in spades and that's just for the grunts and Morgan didn't just defeat the grunts but even the Godmother/Godfather classes and the A-Ray Class at the peak to rule Fairy Britain.
 
Triple Accel 555 said:
Can't really believe single fanfic can shaken some fairy tail fans.
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The fanfic isn't wrong too, Morgan got transferred during the beginning of FT and they were still very weak compared to how they are in latest chapters.

Xhominid The Apex said:
Let me put this in a better standing then:

Natsu when he killed that War God in one punch had an entire arc that was him and the other members of Fairy Tail fresh out of a training arc to deal with Zeref and his Spriggan 12 and they absolutely demolished their opponents without even a single issue whatsoever. There was no legit plot or anything that had Natsu do that, it was explicitly done to show how strong Natsu and Co. are now and how strong their future adversaries are.

Nothing shows that DiMaria or Chronos is any stronger outside of her dealing with Wendy, Lucy and someone I forgot. That's the point I'm making here(Especially since DiMaria's whole thing is taking over random Gods' for their special abilities.
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I never say whether they are strong or not. My point is that, I simply answer that they do have God's Authority since you say "Believing she have divine authority over time itself". You can say the God's Authority is weak but they do have 1. I never say the authority is strong. And even if they are strong in Fairy Tail plot, it doesn't matter. They got beat. Thats just how it is in FT

The power up is better flowed in DB compared to FT, thats just how crazy FT power up is.
 
@Salfarc What I truly find weird is this:


Round 1: Fairy Tail Characters are sent to the British Lostbelt near Camelot with 30-minute prep time for the FT Side.

Round 2: Morgan is sent to Earthland with 15 minutes of prep time to prepare.

Round 3: Morgan is sent to Earthland with no Prep Time.

Bonus Round: Morgan is given 2019 years to prepare the British Lostbelt to fight a united Fairy Tail verse who are working together to fight the British Lostbelt.
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  1. Point is to see how powerful Morgan is in comparison to the Characters in the Fairy Tail Universe.
  2. All Characters are in character during this scenario but are motivated to win against their Opponents.
  3. The Morgan used here is the one from Lostbelt 6 at her most powerful.
  4. Morgan and the Fairy Tail side are allowed Feats and Statements from the Manga, Anime, Games, Novel, Movies, Guides and etc
  5. All sides are 100% in all of their Capabilities
  6. Fairy Tail Characters that appeared in different arcs are considered separate people but you can still use any Feats or Statements that came from the arc before that character
    • Ex. Tower of Heaven Natsu and Tenrou Arc Natsu are separate people but Tenrou Arc Natsu can still use Feats and that his Tower of Heaven self had done or was given.
  7. Fairy Tail side has access to everything they had used at one point
  8. Neither Side has any knowledge of the other's capabilities but is aware of the other's existence in this scenario
  9. Victory Condition is either Death or Incapacitation
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So basically, none of this works in the favor of what dude is talking about. DiMaria is 100% in character and Morgan is also 100% in character so Morgan is not approaching an unknown target on her own nor would DiMaria ever go for the kill immediately.
It's always like Spacebattlers to just make shit up even if it's OOC as fuck.
 
Xhominid The Apex said:
@Salfarc What I truly find weird is this:





So basically, none of this works in the favor of what dude is talking about. DiMaria is 100% in character and Morgan is also 100% in character so Morgan is not approaching an unknown target on her own nor would DiMaria ever go for the kill immediately.
It's always like Spacebattlers to just make shit up even if it's OOC as fuck.
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See the thing you bold is the main reason I even mention this

Salfarc said:
And at before Hundred Year's quest start, she become traumatized and prefer to not fight. So maybe they use the "more volatile" ver of her
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Because if we are talking about in-character Dimaria at the 100 years quest, she just won't fight. She'll be too scared to fight anyone because of Natsu. She become pacifist. Morgan will either ignore her or just kill her to get rid of her.

Hence why I say maybe they use the more volatile ver, because if they use the one on 100 years quest, its even worse than you say for Dimaria :catplacent
 
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Salfarc said:
Because if we are talking about Dimaria at the 100 years quest, she just won't fight. She'll be too scared to fight anyone because of Natsu. She become pacifist. Morgan will either ignore her or just kill her to get rid of her.
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The funny part is that Morgan will find out networthy and forcibly draft her in with a Tam Lin seal of approval and congrats, she now has a monster on her side(People forget Morgan can just bestow the KoTR Saint Graphs onto people right?) and if they use her more volatile self, then everyone will have to act OOC and know to use her to defeat every clone, somehow the other clones don't body her once they realize how much of a threat she is nor do sneak attacks, somehow break through the dimensional barrier Rhongomyniad creates that Morgan used to seal off Lostbelt 6(It's amazing how many people keep ignoring this functionality to pretend she's just that defenseless) and then act completely OOC that whole time to hopefully time stop her and kill her instantly...

You have a better chance in believing Brandish or that other Anti-Magic Spriggan will matter in the long run.
 
Xhominid The Apex said:
The funny part is that Morgan will find out networthy and forcibly draft her in with a Tam Lin seal of approval and congrats, she now has a monster on her side(People forget Morgan can just bestow the KoTR Saint Graphs onto people right?) and if they use her more volatile self, then everyone will have to act OOC and know to use her to defeat every clone, somehow the other clones don't body her once they realize how much of a threat she is nor do sneak attacks, somehow break through the dimensional barrier Rhongomyniad creates that Morgan used to seal off Lostbelt 6(It's amazing how many people keep ignoring this functionality to pretend she's just that defenseless) and then act completely OOC that whole time to hopefully time stop her and kill her instantly...

You have a better chance in believing Brandish or that other Anti-Magic Spriggan will matter in the long run.
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More like IC Morgan will just doing her own thing (probably strolling around in Earthland) while doing bare minimum to the FT plot itself unless absolutely needed.
Just like in Sea Monster Crisis event.

@Triple Accel 555 I just hope that Morgan in that fanfic will act similar to her in Sea Monster event. Treating the whole thing as vacation while distancing herself from the main FT story.
Granted she did join the guild, but she can be a passive one
 
Triple Accel 555 said:
Even if Morgan were transferred to a 100-year timeline, she could kick the Dragon God's ass. People forget the fanfic uses her Lostbelt version, not her summoned as a servant who only could access her power around 1/3 .
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I dont really read the 100-year quest so I have no idea how strong they are. There are a lot of conflicting opinion here, One say they reaches planetary... I'll just take your word for it. I just know that before the 100-year quest no one ever reaches Morgan's level.
 
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Proto234 said:
More like IC Morgan will just doing her own thing (probably strolling around in Earthland) while doing bare minimum to the FT plot itself unless absolutely needed.
Just like in Sea Monster Crisis event.
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It's weird because dude is acting like Morgan is facing them all at once when that's not how the rules dictate it, it's basically they are aware of her existence and the motivation to defeat her but otherwise, it would be like the Joestars finding DIO in that they have a general idea of where she is but it's limited to hell and back.
 
King of war said:
:tripscust @Derpmaster9000
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Not even gonna click it, because I already know what to expect.

That being said, with ChaosTheory's new revisions, even if we granted Saitama his 'multi-star system' level for the void feat...








































































Hit Self Fail GIF by Action Point


Saitama and his stans, even with massive leniency(read: fap and suck combo), still get uno-reverse card checked by SSJ3 Goku. :russ :mjlol
 
Blade said:
basically, for angel jin, that was the main source, his majin genes were gone and was using his angel ones, jun helped him to purify his evil side

after

the angel jin vs true majin mode kaz fight, and after the final base jin vs kaz fight, where jin won in the end, we dont know how t9 will handle these things from now on, meanwhile jin can still use his angel mode, he has that ace card too, but thats a story for t9 to say, if he still gonna have it or not, but his angel side can be obtained, cuz jin in the end he said, ''i'm sure we will meet again mother''

reina in the end of the game, awakens her majin potential, post-credits ending, her role is trickster, so since angel jin and true majin mode kaz is gone, she is likely the strongest in the roster, again, t9 or a possible dlc story for t8 will clarify this more, in case t9 aint ever be created

anyway, obd wise, in a vs fight, u can still use these versions regardless for jin and kaz, so simple
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Is this feat can be scaled to canon story ?

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Devil Jin dodge light beam , travel to Space and cause the nuke which result is big explosion.
 
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Being able to briefly contend with someone a tier or two above you does not literally mean you're as strong as them, how is this so hard for people to understand :rock
 
Salfarc said:
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Jeanne is top tier like Arjuna and Karna somehow means Kojiro is as strong as Hercules.
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While he is correct in that Jeanne D'Arc isn't on the same league of power as Karna and Arjuna... that completely ignores that's only in how she is without resorting to her suicide Noble Phantasm and more just points how how bullshit strong the people above her are(Cu in particular gets shat on pretty damn hard despite F/SN actually puts him up despite how his Gae Bolg doesn't kill anyone, Fate/Extra has him fight the Heracles Expy Lu Bu to a standstill and Fate/Extella explicitly has him kill Jeanne herself in his Side Story).

Apparently, this further shows how much Spacebattles knows dick about Fate because people keep looking at the "HGWs allows for Servants to exploit other Servants and can get wins" and think that applies to ALL Holy Grail Wars or that was an intentional Nasu decision... when it isn't:
The message Berserker carries as a character
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Takeuchi: I guess it would be, "Muscles for the win!"
Nasu: No... it's more like "Mass times speed equals destruction." Fighting games and the like have instilled us with the preconceived notion that power characters have to be slow and ponderous in their movements. We wanted everyone to feel a very real kind of terror at the prospect of a mammoth-sized muscle man moving super fast. When the strongest enemy is also the fastest and is capable of attacking multiple times, the usual tactic of taking down the behemoth with agility and rapid strikes simply will not work.
Takeuchi: The combination of physical strength granted through birth and masterful skills acquired through training truly does forge the ultimate warrior. Add to that the fact that only A-rank attacks or above will be effective, and...
Nasu: Hacks. Total hacks. In a normal game, it's like the legendary artifact you'd expect to find right at the end... You basically can't so much as damage Berserker without a legendary weapon.
Takeuchi: On paper, I imagine there are many Servants who can't even touch Berserker under normal circumstances.
Nasu: It does take an EX rank Noble Phantasm or the A rank Saber to defeat Berserker in a square fight. He is quite literally a killer of mediocre heroes.
Takeuchi: Yeah, you'd have to be a top class hero to stand toe-to-toe with Berserker.
Nasu: Back when I wrote old "Fate" and indeed for quite a duration between the '80s and '90s, Heracles was the most popular and well known Greek hero in Japan. I first head of Cu Chulainn through "Megami Tensei" and took an interest in Irish mythology, but Greek mythology was more commonly known, and within that Greek mythology Heracles was of course hailed as the strongest hero. I was actually quite surprised when I recently found out that some of our "stay night" players didn't know who Heracles was . Even more shocking was when I found out that some players had never even heard of King Arthur.
Takeuchi: guess they fell through the cracks when the entertainment industry started diversifying their cultural sources.
Nasu: "Saint Seiya" was one of the most popular animes of our generation, but it had plenty of predecessors who referenced Greek mythology as well. Don't you remember getting excited over Harryhousen's "Jason and the Argonauts" as a child? Caster's Dragon Tooth Warriors were an homage to the skeletal soldiers I saw in that movie. I just loved the unsettling movements of those skeletal soldiers and found them very inspiring.
Takeuchi: With Greek mythology enjoying another boom of popularity in 2010, it's easy to see how history and the entertainment industry's fads repeat in cycles.
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There are many Grail Wars where there is no Ace In The Hole and fuckers are just... fucked because the idealized conditions are so ridiculous, it's practically impossible to replicate in most circumstances for that specific hero(Tell me where a Mage is gonna get Hydra Venom for Heracles or Chiron in such short notice?) and ignore that many Servants aren't even killed by their exploits but just combat itself((How many used Cu's Geas to kill him? Medusa's weaknesses? Using Dragon Killer weapons on Artoria?) and then try and honest to god tell me that Paris will be able to kill Achilles in a headon fight because "He can attack his Heel for free" or the same with Siegfried if he does find out about his back?

Hax does matter in the Nasuverse as well as figuring out a Servant's weaknesses but it has been wanked to hell and back that they act like every battle is basically like that or a good majority when they haven't been... at all(If Tristan wasn't reversed, the Hassan's plan would have worked... but a Serious Tristan would have murdered all 3 of them before they could even try... which Tristan tends to be canonically and why Reverse Tristan is how he is.)
 
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