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Btw my big post has nothing to do with the game; be viewed ad an ATE; it’s just me setting boundaries over a sensitive topic that’s it; that’s all.

Just wanna make sure that’s understood.
 
Nibel should claim, he's drifting too much into his scum pathos of coasting and lurking and is the leading wagon atm
 
Fujishiro said:
I just checked and you do have a point but then him not coasting in that game and then coasting in this one kinda proves my point in that we shouldnt judge him off volume. I maintain that he wouldnt make a post like he did with Sparkles if he was scum imo.
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Kinda feels like you're trying to force a town read here tbh, you didn't even get what Nibel was saying right yet town read for him, and when it was pointed out to you that you misunderstood his post you just doubled down on it lol
Fujishiro said:
So whats my game plan here by trying to clear LHFs like Yoho and Nibel lol.
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Fujishiro said:
Basic mafia 101 here, its not about having a plan its about leaving room for mislynches to happen. You see me defending those two as town so why would I exactly be trying to convince people to remove them off the POE. You said if its not those two and then proceeded to name ma and Ratchet,etc.

I think Poyser/You/Ratchet/Yoho and Nibel could be good. I didnt read others interractions day 1 to ascertain where they stand though.

I dont particularly like Aurelian though and wouldnt mind lynching him.
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I mean if you're scum then you just lost a teammate so getting yourself town read is pretty important, and it's not like if you clear Yoho/Nibel there is any shortage of pushable slots with the likes of Lethal, Aurelian, Alex floating around, the existing suspicion on Sparkles, and Gad being Gad. Obviously some would have to be your teammates but still. Nibel/Yoho are also easy slots to 180 on later. And, let's be honest, you saying that they're town probably isn't going to prevent them from getting lynched anyway, especially this early with these numbers.
 
Tempest said:
Kinda feels like you're trying to force a town read here tbh, you didn't even get what Nibel was saying right yet town read for him, and when it was pointed out to you that you misunderstood his post you just doubled down on it lol
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Not really, I town read him for the game solvy nature of the post, the fact that I mistook the player it was addressed to is irrelevant.
Tempest said:
I mean if you're scum then you just lost a teammate so getting yourself town read is pretty important, and it's not like if you clear Yoho/Nibel there is any shortage of pushable slots with the likes of Lethal, Aurelian, Alex floating around, the existing suspicion on Sparkles, and Gad being Gad. Obviously some would have to be your teammates but still. Nibel/Yoho are also easy slots to 180 on later. And, let's be honest, you saying that they're town probably isn't going to prevent them from getting lynched anyway, especially this early with these numbers.
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Well yeah because I have no thread pull but Im still trying. Hopefully enough people listen to me :)
 
Oh wait I misread the post I quoted, I do agree that I might be a bit too charitable here @Tempest but the post I pulled still is a good look on him. I will not oppose a claim from him though just saying my two cents like I said.
 
SoulKiller said:
I was thinking this tbh, but again, I am not necessairly playing the same either and kinda taking a breather and not be too invested tbh with you, so it's whatever for now, he keeps up the slack, and we cap him. Simple.

Pushing fuji generally speaking would result in getting a better read on the guy and get him out of his unserious phase. But I would let hell freeze over than give it another attempt lol. I am burned the fuck out when it comes to back and forth, need to chillax.
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Reluctance to push Fuji
SoulKiller said:
Okay caught up, don't really like Luka playing around the 'slip', it is damning and hard to ignore, him claiming VT does not really help his case either, is there a world where he can be town? sure, but imagine losing to a ningen who outed himself and we let him cruise by because??? Poyser I feel like gets resolved as well based on Luka flip. Like I don't think the guy is scum if luka flips scum for example. I would comfortably put him in the townie list. However, in the chance luka flips townie here, then probably an ISO will be over due to the guy and it comes down to, how much poyser as a player would go far as to get townie cred??

Ultra weird fixation on Gab I found odd..... I find Ultra slot to be interesting here because he has good interaction with Gab and Poyser here. Now no shot in hell if we assume ultra is scum here to go back and forth like this with his scum partner in poyser or his scum partner in gab here. So going the SvS interaction route in either interaction seems too much, especially early into the DP. Ultra being scum and interacting with both townies in Poyser and Gab is plausabile, but would Ultra as scum really go this hardcore on both?assuming both poyser and gab are townie?? hmmmmm. Ultra being townie here makes more sense to me, atleast I think it's more likely to be the case for now.
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So SK seemed to want to flip Luka and was arguing Poyser would be cleared town if Luka were to flip scum,
Poyser said:
This bottom bit is a weird one but I can see the thought process tbf. Think you’re probably town
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Tbh I think Soul played Poyser a bit here, that paragraph wasn't good at all. Soul basically aligned himself against Ekko/Ultra to try to pocket Poyser and I think it worked
SoulKiller said:
Not the impression I am getting from Ekko personally, his thought process striked me as ingenuine tbh with you. What posts of his striked you as townie here? like tbh tbh even his beginning shade post at me felt dirty lol. Also, him stating that he is down to lynch either poyser or me made me puzzled. Why lynch an inactive slot in me? what information would it give you? like imagine reading 30 pages and one of the people he is down to lynch is a player who did not get the chance to play yet. Mind you, over players like luka who he think probably slipped but not giving a stance on his position. You can make the argument that he wants me to come out and actually put some effort but eh...
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SoulKiller said:
Vote Lynch: Luka I think this is the way. Even in the off chance the dude flips townie, you get soo much out of it information wise as well. So it's kinda a win win situation really.

I wouldn't mind gunning for an ekko lynch either tbh with you.
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Yeah more pandering to Poyser. Thing is, idk where Soul was going to go from here if Luka flips town? Was he really going to start pushing Poyser? Lol @Ratchet would appreciate some insight here!

This play only kinda makes sense to me if Luka is gonna flip scum, but wasn't Ultra mainly the one pushing Luka at this point and Poyser was defending him? I don't really get it tbdean
Poyser said:
Luka has already claimed and we have more than 24 hours left of the phase. Unless you’re not going to get back to switch your vote before deadline you should help me be productive and get something from Ekko

IMO
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SoulKiller said:
Fair point, bit busy at work tomorrow, but don't have an event to attend after so should be around. Let's put the guy under the pan for abit.

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Let's get it.

Vote Lynch: Ekko
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Don't think this is coordinated. Gut feel is Soul was resigned to sacrificing a scummate in Luka but idk what it was supposed to get him
Sharter Holmes said:
Yeah no. Your progression this game has ben atrocious. You're being overtly obnoxious and that's just... not you. It's like you skipped steps and arrived at the end where you're acting like you would but your reads have no grounds. You're stretch so hard you might as well be a plastic bag

Poyser's posts kinda hit the spot for me. U scummy this game
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Sharter Holmes said:
Fwiw, I'm feeling extra stubborn myself cause boobs seems to be coming at me in bad faith

If Poyser noticed me saying I don't have reads, I don't buy the titty missing this and claiming that I never said that. And I even said I read Fang town, but called it a fake read and now acts like he hasn't seen shit

I'mma be extra annoying fr
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Kinda feels like the same game Soul was playing in fueling the Poyser/Ultra beef tbh
 
Aurelian said:
I think its reasonable 1 or 2 of the mafia team/his mates probably bussed him and are there in the count but I think there's also a good chance 50-70% that all the non-Soul voters have at least the rest or some of the mafia team in there.

Barring Soulkiller and among the non-SK voters:

  • Nibel
  • Gram
  • Fuji

Soulkiller voters:

  • Luka
  • Ratchet
  • Potentially Yoho
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Like this from Aurelian tbdean

Also, neither Gad or Fuji were on Soul and I think both look kinda bad in relation to Soul from what I said above
 
Tempest said:
Reluctance to push Fuji
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And he was right not to, for context we just got done playing a game on Worstgen where he did push me and I death tunneled him for the better part of a day until he got so mad be told me to kill myself.
Tempest said:
So SK seemed to want to flip Luka and was arguing Poyser would be cleared town if Luka were to flip scum,

Tbh I think Soul played Poyser a bit here, that paragraph wasn't good at all. Soul basically aligned himself against Ekko/Ultra to try to pocket Poyser and I think it worked



Yeah more pandering to Poyser. Thing is, idk where Soul was going to go from here if Luka flips town? Was he really going to start pushing Poyser? Lol @Ratchet would appreciate some insight here!

This play only kinda makes sense to me if Luka is gonna flip scum, but wasn't Ultra mainly the one pushing Luka at this point and Poyser was defending him? I don't really get it tbdean



Don't think this is coordinated. Gut feel is Soul was resigned to sacrificing a scummate in Luka but idk what it was supposed to get him



Kinda feels like the same game Soul was playing in fueling the Poyser/Ultra beef tbh
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Thing is I think Luka has been townie this phase unless you think hes mates with Sparkles.
 
Light orange = sus for individual reasons (i.e coasting, inactive)

Dark orange = sus in relation to Soul

2. Sparkles
3. Sharter Holmes
5. Ratchet
6. Poyser
7. Lethal
8. Aurelian
9. Grammaton
10. Fujishiro
12. Chairman Nibel
13. Yoho
14. Luka
16. Alexis2282AE
17. Emil
18. RDK

Ekko is obvtown, was on Soul all phase

I think I can rule out Ratchet, Gram, and Poyser simply for being too competent to let Soul claim Watcher. Also don't see Ratchet trying to CFD away from Soul in that spot if they're aligned, he was gonna look awful. Meanwhile Poyser/Soul's posts don't come off coordinated to me.

Aurelian I think has been coming off pretty well this phase, and he did place a crucial vote on Soul but didn't make a show of it at all. Feel like if he was going to resign himself to a bus he might have thrown in a kick or something in the process.

Sparkes I've explained why I think is sus. Lethal, Nibel, and Alex are just non-existent and there's no reason to think they're town.

Luka is a bit of a true null for me as I don't individually sus him, don't really get what Soul was doing if Luka was his scummate, but also don't really have any reason to town read him

Fuji is dark orange because Soul made a thing about justifying why he didn't want to push him, and I also just don't like the town read he was trying to force on Nibel earlier. Gad is dark orange for playing the same game as Soul in pitting Poyser against Ultra/Ekko and fueling that fire.
 
Tempest said:
, and I also just don't like the town read he was trying to force on Nibel earlier.
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I answered you a page or so ago when you said I was trying to force it by saying that its not the case. I mistook players but the post itself still stands.
 
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