Also doesn't seem to understand what I mean when I said "I didn't want to out my role because I didn't think people should be outing their roles for that".
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hime
Exceptional
do what u want then, not really sure how im supposed to convince someone who reads me town, agreed with my not using the duel last phase unless we were in danger of no lynch, knows that i was right abt poyser and scchamp who were the 2 wagons last day (unless scchamp is sk ig), and decided to protect me last night too
ill remind u, town lost members after everyone refused to believe me on ratchet and lynched me instead
feels like deja vu tbh
i have the same role as i did in that game as well
hime
Exceptional
u also said that u can "easily see me as indie"
making it seem like i like to throw or something
hime
Exceptional
no u shouldve.
u clearly stated that ur role made u decide to vote poyser
u had info that directly influenced how u voted on a very close wagon last day and u decided to hide it
one more vanilla claim being outed is not at all going to make a difference when all the others claimed
Arne Slot
The Shiny One
So this was ratchets first post following melkor contradicting poysers info. I'm not sure how this meshes with ratchet being vt.
Right. But you are saying I decided that you were Indie when I, quite literally, spelled it out for you saying I think you're most likely town, possibly indie , and very unlikely to be Mafia. It's impossible for me to be any clearer lmao, you're straight up arguing that what I believe is something different to what I said.
I never said anything about throwing. I said I could see an angle wherein you are indie. And my reasoning for that is how you've used the duel, and the unrealistic paranoia that you have around it, especially yesterday, where I don't understand how you could have ever sincerely believed that, in a duel between you and Poyser, Poyser would win. That's my contention. And then I also note that your general play is not all that survival motivated, hence why I have you being town as the most likely possibility. You read me say that and then say " Ratchet thinks I'm indie". So clearly what I'm writing isn't actually getting read.
dem didnt see ratchet saying i wont make the game fun for him since i subbed in
makes me sad
makes me sad
It is because there is no reason to give scum what they want. And as I've said over and over, I thought that there was a possibility that Poyser's claim was designed to bait Vanilla claims. So I opted to hold it.
Arne Slot
The Shiny One
Yeah but you were still saying you didn't want to lynch Poyser even after it should've been a foregone conclusion from your pov that he was lying?
I've already explained this. There was room to believe that Poyser's count did not include RDK, and I was operating under the world view that Champ is scum and thus is not part of the count. Apply that and then you'll see that there was still room for Poyser to be legit with Melkor, myself and Sky all town Vanilla. However, it planted the doubt in me, and when I started to consider Champ as town, I figured the chances of Poyser lying about it increased enough to switch.
I sure do love needing to repeat the same thing two or three times over because people can't read. Truly high level Mafia this is.
Arne Slot
The Shiny One
I'll have to see if this aligns with your play
hime
Exceptional
if u think his claim was designed to bait vanilla claims then it should be obvious he was scum from ur pov??
this makes no sense
u had at least 12 hours, probs more after melkor wouldve been the 6th "non-active night role" claim, yet u continued saying u dont want to lynch poyser for ??? reasons
Nope. 5 as of night 1. Hime, Fuji, Sky, Melkor, myself. I thought Champs was scum. I thought Sky/Melkor could be scum, so there was room for negotiation even if RDK counted. Which left no more room at the inn. So when Champs looked townier, there no longer existed a plausible way for Poyser to be telling the truth unless RDK didn't count and one of Sky or Melkor were scum. Which was too many assumptions for me to feel confident in making. Ergo, my vote.
Again, it would help if you read what I said. I did not say I thought his claim was designed to bait Vanilla. I said I considered the possibility that it was. Being open to that possibility does not mean I believe said possibility to be true. It means I can accept that plausibly there is a scenario in which it is true. And while J may not believe in it, it bears weighting because it's plausible.
Arne Slot
The Shiny One
Okay this checks out
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