Game Official Ranked Xmas Mafia 2024 - Where Worlds Collide

[.guillo]

Going over Guillo's EoD posts I can honestly see him as scum being transparently frustrated at people not lynching Watson. Specifically in the way that he doesn't really acknowledge or talk about Melkor as a player, at all. Instead his main focus is insinuating that not going for Watson is throwing or against the spirit of Ranked games or whatever. Him giving those little caveats on Melkor like "this is scummy no matter what his alignment is" without actually trying to read him or frankly just assuming he's town feels very self aware

Scum!Guillo buses Melkor and get’s cred. Get out of here.

 

[Ultra]

In fact if you go back to Votecount 2, you’ll see T-pein there

How could you have possibly thought Alco and Pein started the wagon if you had read the thread whatsoever

They're only listed as "first" in the final count because they never moved their votes after placing. They weren't early on voters

 

[.guillo]

Yeah but your presumption at the time was that Watson was scum, you going out of your way to say this doesn't sit right. Especially because I feel like you're mostly playing positionally and not following up on your conclusions here. I would expect you to be trying to call out bussers if you sincerely believed this

Your alleged assumptions are just that, assumptions, just because you have them it does not mean they are real. Why are you trying to scum paint me after i sussed GoddessBlade? What is your read on her please?

 

[.guillo]

How could you have possibly thought Alco and Pein started the wagon if you had read the thread whatsoever

They're only listed as "first" in the final count because they never moved their votes after placing. They weren't early on voters

So Votecount 4 out of 13 is not an early votecount? Who knew?

 

[Ultra]

Scum!Guillo buses Melkor and get’s cred. Get out of here.

If you're scum and you think Watson is genuinely lying and indi, you would still opt to bus? Not very convinced.

 

[Ultra]

Your alleged assumptions are just that, assumptions, just because you have them it does not mean they are real. Why are you trying to scum paint me after i sussed GoddessBlade? What is your read on her please?

Blatant deflection, I told you what the problem with your vote was. Light town on GB, mostly sheeping Prof here

So Votecount 4 out of 13 is not an early votecount? Who knew?

Dawg what the fuck are you talking about

The first voters on Melkor were me, Ratchet, and Ekko

 

[.guillo]

If you're scum and you think Watson is genuinely lying and indi, you would still opt to bus? Not very convinced.

Im a hellbusser, it is not strange for me at all to bus on day 1. As scum i would want neutral-Watson around, they acted anti-town and the paranoia around her will never go away, the more i keep her the more likely she’d be a mislynch later. Basic mafia 101

 

[Ultra]

Nobody is saying T-Pein or Alco didn't vote or whatever, but you implied they should be town based on "vote count analysis" which is bullshit.

Both from a factual standpoint and a contextual one. You come off as not reading the thread or understanding the progression in the Melkor wagon which isn't good

 

[.guillo]

Blatant deflection, I told you what the problem with your vote was. Light town on GB, mostly sheeping Prof here



Dawg what the fuck are you talking about

The first voters on Melkor were me, Ratchet, and Ekko

Why is GB light town?

 

[Ultra]

If you had actually read you would know T Pein voted Melkor literally because he asked who to vote and I told him to

 

[.guillo]

Nobody is saying T-Pein or Alco didn't vote or whatever, but you implied they should be town based on "vote count analysis" which is bullshit.

Both from a factual standpoint and a contextual one. You come off as not reading the thread or understanding the progression in the Melkor wagon which isn't good

I didnt imply they were town based on early votes, i asked Ratchet what does he think about Alco and Tpein being early Melkor’s voters.

 

[Jigsaw]

I am down for a guillo or Brutus wagon.

Vote Brutus

His posts are truly disturbing as Flower mentions, skating around and providing no actual input.
He voted for Watson (at 8 votes) when Melkor was at 13 votes with 3 hours left.

 

[Flower]

Spoiler

Vote Lynch Pqwerty

I think Magic is town. Happy to sheep him for a while

I don’t like Ultra accusing Melkor of “good guying” or any for that matter with broader q’s of “good guying” at this stage in the game.

The Magic Town read was a bit early.

Will reread

lets just lynch Ultra

May as well be innocent children at this point

Scum who haven’t caught up are not going to list their scum buddies as guaranteed town, just make safe bets to blend in and hope those guys won’t challenge them

I don’t actually mind that line of thought.

No I’m bot

You bussed him buddy boyo

That sounds bold.

I’m not trying to appear town, I’m just trolling a bit during the catch up. But thanks for the defence anyway, Magic.

Where am I sticking my vote, Magic?

Buddies with Magic.

I’m not sure why a starting point on a catch up with the deceased scum is a bad point.

I also think that a scum at that point of the game would chiefly be trying to appease town ring leaders more than anything, as opposed to pushing anything.

Character, flavour, shots?

We’re Dr Professor and Fuji

That’s funny.

Thoughts on the probably Serial Killer killing Poyser N1? I think it’s a rookie. Pretty damn sure it lies between these four. I’m keeping this as a place holder for later on in the game.

That sounds like a thought Rugrat would have as Town.

Seemed a bit eager to read poverty town tbh ngl

I’m going to say that this interaction probably happens in the QT if Chuck is scum

Agreed.

ok, so Chuck is probably the serial killer, that’s the end of that. But catching mafia more important

very bad look for Ekko.

I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone avoid having any strong game related opinions to the extent Chuck has and end up being town.

He never played with Charlie to my knowledge, so that sounds like a fine observation from his pov.

Keep barking for me

As soon as the SK spec comes, “the game might be multi-scum”. You’re on thin ice. VERY thin ice.

Vote Ekko

I very much doubt the two bodyguard roles. Didn’t clock on until later

Vote Alexis

Actually no, it’s a martyr

unvote

Why is Ekko posting stanzas? PR???

I’ll be voting with @Magic today and leaving it with him the rest of the game.

Think I‘m fine moving Rugrat to my Town leans. I don’t mind his observations even tho I disagree with his take on Charlie, but he doesn’t have meta on him, so that’s not that bad.

I also buy that he genuinely wants to act like Magic‘s right hand this game.

 

[GoddessBlade]

I never soft defended Melkor. I just didnt have a read on him and Watson’s behavior was clearly anti-town, i could not fathom how or why 9 players were willing to pivot from that behavior into Melkor, when Watson was clearly acting anti-town very openly.

Why you never voted Melkor even though you scum read him?

Already addressed why I didn't


And you DID soft defend Melkor. You did it early on and you did it at EoD.

If you suspect Watson here, why is your next post a vote against Melkor?

Kinda like what you did with Watson then pivoting to Melkor with your vote.

Do you know if Melkor has been here long enough to know this as much as you do?

Here's you trying to alleviate pressure on your buddy. You can frame it as just tunneling Watson all you want but I can see that there's more than that.

 

[Dr_Professor83]

The first voters on Melkor were me, Ratchet, and Ekko

My heart

 

[Flower]

Kay, I‘m doing more ISO work when I‘m back home.

 

[Dr_Professor83]

Okay, this ISO is horrendous.

He started late and ended up voting for Watson. I think Watson is at worst non hostile Indie now given RDK‘s flip, so this looks more like a team mate of Melkor who came out of the woods to vote and save his mate. I also don’t like him saying stuff like one of Lappland/Ekko/myself is scum when that’s a good way for scum to set up chain mislynches. I also know for a fact that I‘m Town, Lappland is a Town lean and Ekko is at the Townier end of my PoE. So his direction is horrendous from my PoV.

I’ve been nursing a soft Brutus scum consideration, both from how he voted Watson there and how inoffensive he’s being while handing around. Have been waiting to see how might bring him up or notice

 

[Dr_Professor83]

If you had actually read you would know T Pein voted Melkor literally because he asked who to vote and I told him to

Stop trying to steal the credit of a T1 player

 

[Ultra]

My heart

^ And this guy

 

[Ultra]

I didnt imply they were town based on early votes, i asked Ratchet what does he think about Alco and Tpein being early Melkor’s voters.

That is quite literally an implication lol