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EkkoLoJinx said:
i understand this
but also i never said
scum killed C P to

frame me. my worldview
is that flower simply could
have tried silencing

the people that did
suspect her toward end of
last day, me and craig.

he's interjecting
his worldview into mine and
susing me for it.
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I mean, if you're town then a good part of why Craig was killed would be because it makes you look bad. That's not really debateable, he spent a good deal of time suspecting you. To the point I would say you were one of if not outright his primary scum read. His position, then, is that there is no real reason for Scum!Flower to use her ability on you, when the kill on Craig should be serving that role. And I just explained this to you. Think you're running on thin ice to be honest, it's a few times now where I feel like your arguments are just not very good.
 
Flower said:
Okay, this ISO is horrendous.

He started late and ended up voting for Watson. I think Watson is at worst non hostile Indie now given RDK‘s flip, so this looks more like a team mate of Melkor who came out of the woods to vote and save his mate. I also don’t like him saying stuff like one of Lappland/Ekko/myself is scum when that’s a good way for scum to set up chain mislynches. I also know for a fact that I‘m Town, Lappland is a Town lean and Ekko is at the Townier end of my PoE. So his direction is horrendous from my PoV.
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Flower said:
Leaves a PoE of:

Evans/Sparkles/Brutus/Guillo/Pein/Alexis

Can fit Ekko in there if Guillo is Town.

X could be a possible blind spot for me, but else I feel pretty good about my Town reads.

Ratchet is probably just Town. Don‘t see him aligned with my other scum leans.

Alexis is self resolving with his claim tho, so not really a lynch candidate for me.
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You are at the Townier end of my PoE.

I would consider you more if Guillo is Town.

But you can be left for future days and you also won’t be restricted anymore by then since I‘m not doing that anymore.

What wasn’t clear here?
 
Flower said:
How about you read my f***ing posts?
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i did, and i see
that you read me null there. you
say "ekko can be

town if so and so
flips wolf" which is not a read
on me based on my

play. it's a read based
on info we do not have
now. easy to fake.

give me a read on
me based on my current play,
regardless of a

any flip. go give
it a shot flower. show me
an actual read.
 
EkkoLoJinx said:
i did, and i see
that you read me null there. you
say "ekko can be

town if so and so
flips wolf" which is not a read
on me based on my

play. it's a read based
on info we do not have
now. easy to fake.

give me a read on
me based on my current play,
regardless of a

any flip. go give
it a shot flower. show me
an actual read.
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Your current play is garbage, so without any outside factors you would be more of a scum lean.
 
Ratchet said:
I mean, if you're town then a good part of why Craig was killed would be because it makes you look bad. That's not really debateable, he spent a good deal of time suspecting you. To the point I would say you were one of if not outright his primary scum read. His position, then, is that there is no real reason for Scum!Flower to use her ability on you, when the kill on Craig should be serving that role. And I just explained this to you. Think you're running on thin ice to be honest, it's a few times now where I feel like your arguments are just not very good.
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why can't flower uh
simply want to silence two
persons that sused her?

knowing flower as
a player, it's not too far
fetched thought to have and

having it should not
by any means make me scum.
what do you think took

place here regarding
the kill on C P. who do
you think did it, yay
 
Ratchet said:
Also this could be scum, he asked for a summary, received it, then proceeded to do absolutely nothing with it. Just posting for the sake of posting.
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yes he is very
polarized as a player
so can easily

see him be scum uh
after that set of posts that
came earlier, yay
 
Ratchet said:
Also this could be scum, he asked for a summary, received it, then proceeded to do absolutely nothing with it. Just posting for the sake of posting.
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I don’t think that’s how Melkor talks about a team mate tbh.

Lord Melkor said:
Not fully caught up, i will list those i remember
Strong town:

You, Fuji, Magic

Town leans: Ratchet, Pquerty, X, Chuck (he needs to do a bit more, trending down), Sera

Scum leans: Watson, Sparkles, Alco, Evans, Jigsaw, maybe Ekko still, maybe CP

Ultra in particular i am not decided on, may he powerwolfing and going for low hanging fruits. But some of his posts look like honest scumhunting.
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Lord Melkor said:
Lack of self-concious attitude, i would expect him to be more self-concious as scum who apparantly read almost 0 of the thread.
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Lord Melkor said:
Vibes. I am quite good at recognizing low effort town sometimes.
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EkkoLoJinx said:
why can't flower uh
simply want to silence two
persons that sused her?

knowing flower as
a player, it's not too far
fetched thought to have and

having it should not
by any means make me scum.
what do you think took

place here regarding
the kill on C P. who do
you think did it, yay
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I mean she can, but that typically wouldn't be the only or even the primary motivation for a kill. And if it is, it would imply that she's leading the scum team - a sentiment which is not congruent with your reads (as it would mean most if not all of the scum team are newer/less confident scum, to defer to Flower). Lappland's point is this - with the idea being that Scum Flower wouldn't both post restrict you and kill Craig to set you up, so you pushing that looks like you're pushing a poor angle. Which I think is a congruent pattern of thought.

Also, I think the idea that Flower would post restrict you, of all players, to shut you up is a bit weak. She knows that you're quite tenacious when you're in a tunnel, and I don't really think she'd be able to have the expectation that post restricting you would just shut you up. I do think the usage is very questionable though, so I wouldn't say it's entirely out of pocket. Just not something I think she would be thinking.
 
EkkoLoJinx said:
maybe uh checks notes
two shot melkor in my third
post of the game, yay!
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Why does that make you Town? You were not a primary pusher of Melkor, you came in after Ultra and I believe me too. One thing that you do apparently have in your favour is that you opted for Melkor over Watson, but I don't think that's entirely clearing.
 
i'd have ten out of
ten times as scum hammered D
watson last day, yay

so now that i am
outed town, i demand help
in my preferred yeet

let's get a claim from
X and maybe sparkles for
ultra then go on

guillo guys, trust lads.
finishing haiku is troll
yay wow la si do

could also just cap
X or sparkle since they are
wasting town's time now
 
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