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Game Warcraft 3: The Full Story

1- @Grammaton Tichondrius Killed Night 6
2- @Dr_Professor83
3- @Dr. Watson Replaced by @One Last Username Grom Hellscream Lynched Day 4
4- @EkkoLoJinx Turalyon Killed Night 1
5- @Ratchet Cairne Bloodhoof Killed Night 5
6- @Sparkles Illidan Stormrage Killed Night 6
7- @Sharter Holmes Mannoroth Lynched Day 6
8- @Chuck Archimonde Lynched Day 3
9- @Alexis2282AE
10- @Luka
11- @GoddessBlade Uther Lightbringer Died Day 6
12- @Yoho Magni Bronzebeard Lynched Day 5
13- @Flower Replaced by @lemon
14- @RDK Replaced by @Aurelian Sylvanas Windrunner Killed Night 4
15- @Sigismund Replaced by @Pot Goblin
16- @Luffy Replaced by @Ultra ??? Killed Night 2
17- @Lord Melkor Anasterian Sunstrider Killed Night 4
18- @The X Maiev Shadowsong Killed Died day 5
19- @MangoSenpai
20- @Poyser Kil'Jaeden Executed Day 2
21- @Cataclysm
22- @Magic Replaced by @Lethal
23- @Pqwerty
24- @.guillo Malfurion Stormrage Lynched Day 2
25- @Kurosaki Ichigo
can people remind me why we're town reading pq again
they can.. talk with the dead - and we just decided that cant be a wolf? is their anything else?
i dont think anyones broughten up their solving being particularly great
 
  • X-files tier:
Pqwerty, Cataclysm

  • Town/ Cultist tier:
Dr_Prof, Pot Goblin, Alexis, Flower/Lemon (Lemon should ask the host if his passive blocks cult or not), maybe Luka can be here too

  • Never CLtier:

Lethal, Pot Goblin, Mangosenpai

  • Possible CL tier:

Ichigo, Alexis, Luka -- (Prof)

  • Last Mafia Suspects tier:

Lethal, Luka, Alexis
just reposting this again

I was thinking about Pqwert also, there's a reason why he's in the X-files tier.

While Cata is there because memes, truthfully, Pqwert is kinda just there.
What's the most irksome about that slot is how he is forbidden from writing with roman letters altogether.

He's unironically a bit of an X-factor lmao


Sidenote: Might have good with spare time today at work.
Not really sure why I got called in tbh
 
he is forbidden from writing with roman letters altogether.
Why not choose hiragana instead? Writing english with hiragana would be hard, but using translate would help town to find their ideas faster. They give Alexis a chance to be useful with the translations but I can't clear them based on the post restriction.

The ability of talking to the dead is proved by your posts @Pqwerty? Please just post an affirmative or negative gif and if you can post a link
 
Is your ability specifically written as a destroy?
Yes
We don’t lol. Neither of Charles abilities make sense based on Flowers results. Presumably it was one of Posyer’s (his active disable) or if she was redirected something somehow happened to her jail
I asked because if we know this can clear or give the proof of partnership Now it's just wifom.
Why are you trying to flip the script on me here?

Why should I explain myself to you, why I am town?


As for the ping you're talking about, I was pinging those who were voting elsewhere or not voting at all - seems I included you by mistake. What of it?



So are you proposing Luka as the lynch candidate?

Is that what you're eluding to?


I'll be honest, Ichigo, your responses are not looking very promising

All you've been trying to do is to flip the narrative, walk around the actual accusations, make very vague and non-descript claims about your actions. Trying to throw shade at me for "not remembering your claim" when that was never stated anywhere, it was merely your assumption.

Right now you're just stalling for time, but you're really struggling to find foothold.

I think you're just cooked tbh. You need to come with the case of the century to convince me to go elswhere
You are misinterpreting my words, and putting intentions I don't have in my head, that's why I asked what makes you town.
The cult leader could claim immume to be culted and wouldn't lie.
It's obvious to me you are not mafia but the effort to accuse me of being cult leader makes me suspicious.

My claim was stated several times and I pinged Alexis to add it to the claims list. I am telling the truth and I have no narrative. I wondered why you pinged me to vote and it looks like you wanted to shade me by implying I was not voting. You say it's a mistake.

I played all game in just a few minutes play time every day and I even skipped all day when people hammered early.
I need time to think at everyone and that means I have to look at you as well.

I am not cooked, you are tunneling.
Dead townies had me as town and you turned against me pretty aggressive. This doesn't give me confidence in you.
 
Also on a second thought, how are you able to say this with such confidence?
We should have one mafia left
... I uh started wolf reading you to redirect the attention away from myself? what.. kinda logic is that? lol?
You are in the POE
this clears lethal assuming the kills last night were wolf + cult
Absolutely not.
But probably your take means TMI on him?
 
Why did you answer for him?
If you put illogical questions someone will show you you could know better
"Cata watched him do it. Yeah, but also, Ichigo claimed his abilities are multitaskable, so it isn't clearing for Cult Leader."

"Do we have enough claims to solve the mech mysteries? I'm pretty sure we have enough claims and flips to go for some mech clearing or solving."
How bad you think I am at the game to claim that if I am cult leader?

I don't know if the claims are enough. But to find the last scum we have to look at the flipped mafia and culted to see what's their agenda @Pqwerty
 
like
this is why i find every point of you such a pain this cycle. youre actively putting everything i do to bad faith lmfao
(not actually upset / angry, this isnt ate. i can deal with it, just my thoughts)
With the PoE being as tight as it is, I don't think we've got the luxury to just take people's words at face value.

Alas, even if I may be guilty in being highly skeptical of the PoE slots, I am not dismissive of your contributions and efforts.


Speaking out of memory, you don't really have much in the way of alibi and evidence backing you either - that also plays a factor

While Ichigo, who masterfully ducked the thread leaving behind a trail of activity excuses and vague statements, allegedly was seen by Cata visiting Poyser D1 - doesn't really absolve him of anything.
By his own admission, he can target multiple people. So him visiting Poyser does not actually prove anything.

He needs to come with something quite profound to convince me he's not hanging today.


i literally asked you about the flavor to specifically clarify wincon what
i say that in my post - i demonstratably didn't do this

i expect people to find it resaonable since it is
I'll try to suspend my "Curse of Knowledge" (that is apparently the term for this phenomena) and try to see the flip from an uninformed PoV;

[Passive - Betrayer] You were deemed a betrayer to your people therefore you are not worthy of anyone's trust, you cannot join any chat in the game nor can you be culted. You also require 1 less vote to be lynched.

[Passive - Demonic Resilience] Your demonic powers allow you to be immune to control effects ( for example redirects) and you will also dodge the first negative action on you in the game.

[Active - Soul Siphon] You may target a player to siphon their very soul, if they happen to be one of your targets you will kill them,exception may apply. Cannot be used in Final 5.

Wincon: Eliminate or outlive Mannoroth, Kel'Thuzad and ..... (Wincon will update if the target becomes available)


"Eliminate or outlive X, Y, Z" that automatically throws the possibility of a serial out the window.
By how it is worded, it is likely one of either Bounty Hunter variant/ Executioner, or a Counter force to some very strong roles

While in likelyhood, I would assume that Independent roles generally speaking would be cult immune - by how the passive is worded, it would clearly hint at him being at odds with any faction that have a chat (Mafia/ Cult)

Then being immune to controls further emphasis on him answering to nobody (does not share interest with mafia/ cult)

And his kill only working on very specific targets, further implies that his purpose is to hunt and dispose of powerful targets.


There's nothing in this role that from a uninformed PoV that should elude to this being anti-town in any way.

And well, have to also mention that Mannoroth already flipped, and he was a very powerful Mafia role; Just by that alone it would be reasonable to assume that an ordinary uninformed person would assume that it is at the very least not interfering with Town's objectives.


^
This breakdown of the flip, that I tried to look at purely on what it says, makes me believe that I don't think your argument holds up to scrutiny.
Now if you wanted to argue that you just saw them flip indie and made an assumption based off that alone, I'd be more willing to buy into it.

But having read the role, the wincon, and one of the two named targets already having flipped - I don't buy it.

Though my question is why is this the hill you wanna die on.



I'm not really in top condition to try and make a conclusion here, It's been a sleepless night and my brain is cooked - but it does raise an eyebrow if nothing else.
So with that said, I'll refrain from contesting this or challenging other claims until I get some sleep after work (so I'll be effectively an observer, though I can engage with simple questions if need be)
Have been writing sporadically while at work, so just getting it out there before I get too cooked and I start playing 5D chess with myself again
 
Why not choose hiragana instead? Writing english with hiragana would be hard, but using translate would help town to find their ideas faster. They give Alexis a chance to be useful with the translations but I can't clear them based on the post restriction.

The ability of talking to the dead is proved by your posts @Pqwerty? Please just post an affirmative or negative gif and if you can post a link
I don't know what the PR specifically says, so I don't know if he can use other common writing systems or not.

But yeah, it is quite a hassle and annoying having to need a mediator that has to translate everything all the time.
You are misinterpreting my words, and putting intentions I don't have in my head, that's why I asked what makes you town.
The cult leader could claim immume to be culted and wouldn't lie.
It's obvious to me you are not mafia but the effort to accuse me of being cult leader makes me suspicious.

My claim was stated several times and I pinged Alexis to add it to the claims list. I am telling the truth and I have no narrative. I wondered why you pinged me to vote and it looks like you wanted to shade me by implying I was not voting. You say it's a mistake.

I played all game in just a few minutes play time every day and I even skipped all day when people hammered early.
I need time to think at everyone and that means I have to look at you as well.

I am not cooked, you are tunneling.
Dead townies had me as town and you turned against me pretty aggressive. This doesn't give me confidence in you.
Did you just conveniently forget that Sparkles has already checked me for being the CL?

The fact that I am here right now tells you all you need to know.

So yes, the CL could say they are immune and not technically lie,
but I have already been absolved by virtue of Sparkles herself.


As for the ping to vote, it is redundant, it was a simple mistake - nothing more, nothing less.

And well, fact of the matter is that you find yourself firmly in the PoE no matter how you twist and turn on it.
You don't really have the luxury of being town cleared just because some flipped townies had you as town when they were still alive.

So yes, you're not wrong, I have in fact turned quite agressively against you. For the simple reason that I believe you are not Town.
 
It should be 6, 3, 1 rn.

Lethal is most likely mafia imo. If we lynched them and they are then it takes out a kill.

But the alternative is lynching away from them and hoping they kill cult and not town. Which is probably not the move lol
How do you reconcile that I am mafia? Seems you're just throwing shit at the wall and hoping it sticks
That was worth the wait.
 
Vote: Luka

Boy ain't impressed me. The nonsense OMGUS vote yesterday and then weasel explanation was a red flag.

lemonFlower not impressive either. Flower could def be cult but that claim matches what Lemon put so unless he took the time to ISO her posts it's gotta check out. So he's a clear for me.

Doc town too imo. Hope he finds me town too so we can solve together. I know I've dragged ass since coming into the game so it's on me to do it.

Need to check the player list properly and ajust me reads
 
So as a thought experiment, in a world where neither Lethal nor Ichigo scum, I think the most likely Alternate Universe would be a Pqwert and Flower world


Ichigo kinda made a good point about being cult immune, it would be a true statement coming from Cult Leader - and Flower quite early on claimed to be immune to cult.

And as I mentioned earlier, having some sort of invest synergises quite well with CL, which low and behold Flower allegedly had - which is how we got the OLU tragedy happen - though as a disclaimer, there is absolutely nothing that suggest the CL would have an invest ability, it is pure speculation.


And Pqwert by virtue of just kinda phases through people's notice, kinda just chilling in this own plane of existence, he's just kinda universally overlooked.





But well, at the very least on Flower, I have a hard time believeing Fuji would put Rexxar as a Fake as opposed to an actual role - but that's not exactly going to hold up in court lmao
I struggle to see any other worlds tbh in the Lethal-Ichigo Town Timeline.

Would emphasise that I'm strictly talking about the big dogs, I have a general idea of who I think the cultists are. But they can wait
 
Vote: Luka

Boy ain't impressed me. The nonsense OMGUS vote yesterday and then weasel explanation was a red flag.

lemonFlower not impressive either. Flower could def be cult but that claim matches what Lemon put so unless he took the time to ISO her posts it's gotta check out. So he's a clear for me.

Doc town too imo. Hope he finds me town too so we can solve together. I know I've dragged ass since coming into the game so it's on me to do it.

Need to check the player list properly and ajust me reads
Save us, Lethal-kun

I have reached my limit when it comes to solving this.

I'll grant you this, perhaps you can broaden my mind;

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