gingerbread
aka piernik
I'm not sure why you are asking me about Antura as we have no possible knowledge developed.
But for Czuek I think it should be done by method. As he started with trolling - which is his best weapon as a scum, so utilizing the hand from the bottom I think he should be forced to explain his thinking logic and game map for every take made.
And obviously forced to present those takes.
But I'm worried, because as a scum he also was decent about presenting his, albeit twisted, logic, but logic nevertheless.
I put Antura and Czuek together kinda as a followup to your earlier statement, that Czuek and Antura have to be read by other human factors, or sth like that. Antura I think will be less challenging for me than Czuek.