Transformers feats/discussion

[Thirteen prime]

H o w.

Optimus there seems to withstand or overtake the explosion of a satellite that contained ballistic missiles, and also subsequently seems to reach from the earth to the moon in a minute, which is pretty good.

 

[Crimson Dragoon]

Well, by the way, in the first movie, Optimus and Megatron were fighting pretty well in the background, so Optimus wasn't completely losing at that point.

Yeah, it was a dragged out fight and Megatron there didn't pull off what he did in TLK

 

[OtherGalaxy]

Not sure why he's the most powerful character in the Bayverse considering Jetpower Optimus Prime and The Fallen Full power?

I call bullshit on Bayformers 1 Megatron being stronger than his TLK counterpart. Pinning down Optimus with one arm is a better showing of strength than what he did in the first movie. Optimus and Megatron just never got the chance to have an extended fight in TLK

^ this + I’m still not buying him being>Sentinel. That dude dog walked a more heavily armed bloodlusted Optimus than we’ve pretty much ever seen anywhere else in the movies and had to be hit by a sneak attack to lose.

 

[Thirteen prime]

A small amount of dark energon during the explosion destroyed part of the station (Trypticon), the entire area became a whole location of belief somewhere from the level of a city block-city, given the size of the station.

Considering that Megatron survived direct contact with large amounts of Dark Energon, which apparently is very similar to antimatter destroying everything it touches, it also increases his strength and allows him to grant this power to his other soldiers who also survived interaction with it, he gained the ability to manipulate and project Dark Energon energy to destroy everything and infect entire areas, considering that Jetfire implies that he threatens the entire planet.
In Aligned, the core of the earth is made of dark energon, apparently having all the characteristics of the substances in it including magma and such in the core of the earth - with pressure up to 3.6 million atmospheres and temperature up to 6000 °C and at the same time a huge amount of radiation, so dark energon probably has all these characteristics.

Oh fuck, I gave the gpt an indication there about how many tons of force or joules of energy would be needed to destroy it. If it were 1 kilogram, then that would be about 2400 tons of TNT. If it were a ball with a diameter of 1 meter, then a force of 35.2 billion tons of force would be needed.

 

[Thirteen prime]

@grillmaster

 

[Thirteen prime]

The abilities of the leaders, soldiers and scientists are notable for being able to increase strength, durability and firepower from the leaders and create shields, absorb energy/life and cloak the scientists and so on, Warpath can hit objects a half mile away and Barricade is faster than even some of the Seekers.

 

[Optimus Prime 654]

A small amount of dark energon during the explosion destroyed part of the station (Trypticon), the entire area became a whole location of belief somewhere from the level of a city block-city, given the size of the station.
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Considering that Megatron survived direct contact with large amounts of Dark Energon, which apparently is very similar to antimatter destroying everything it touches, it also increases his strength and allows him to grant this power to his other soldiers who also survived interaction with it, he gained the ability to manipulate and project Dark Energon energy to destroy everything and infect entire areas, considering that Jetfire implies that he threatens the entire planet.View attachment 4436View attachment 4437View attachment 4438View attachment 4439
In Aligned, the core of the earth is made of dark energon, apparently having all the characteristics of the substances in it including magma and such in the core of the earth - with pressure up to 3.6 million atmospheres and temperature up to 6000 °C and at the same time a huge amount of radiation, so dark energon probably has all these characteristics.
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Oh fuck, I gave the gpt an indication there about how many tons of force or joules of energy would be needed to destroy it. If it were 1 kilogram, then that would be about 2400 tons of TNT. If it were a ball with a diameter of 1 meter, then a force of 35.2 billion tons of force would be needed.

Megatron even used Dark Energon to corrupt Cybertron's core also which is calced at around Large Planet to Dwarf Star in both WFC and TFP

 

[Thirteen prime]

Megatron even used Dark Energon to corrupt Cybertron's core also which is calced at around Large Planet to Dwarf Star in both WFC and TFP

It won't scale to that because it essentially uses a specific device and a larger volume of dark energon that it doesn't scale to.

 

[Optimus Prime 654]

It won't scale to that because it essentially uses a specific device and a larger volume of dark energon that it doesn't scale to.

I mean in TFP, he did absorbed Dark Energon and was doing it without prep or shit. Also wasn't it affecting the whole Cybertron and iirc Megatron's terrorcon army fall to the spacebridge that did exploded

 

[Thirteen prime]

Я имею в виду, в TFP он поглотил Темный Энергон и сделал это без подготовки или дерьма. Также не повлияло ли это на весь Кибертрон и террорк армия Мегатрона упала на космический мост, который взорвался

Он поглотил лишь небольшой фрагмент темного энергона, так что ему тоже не повезло.

 

[Optimus Prime 654]

Он поглотил лишь небольшой фрагмент темного энергона, так что ему тоже не повезло.

oh shit I remember now. Iirc in the final episodes of season 1, Megatron absorbed full dark energon and tried summoning Unicron, but however became a mindfuck and can't get over it since Unicron was fucking with Megatron's mind.

 

[Thirteen prime]

The Nemesis ship can fly at speeds of several thousand miles per hour, and has enough firepower to bomb the main one, its laser shots easily shake the entire city and easily demolish many buildings.

If I'm not mistaken, the city covers the entire single major continent the size of a continent.
The Ark has enough firepower to destroy the first and most powerful planetary rings, after which it also began bombarding the city with missiles that flared up over an entire quadrant of the city and subsequently apparently crashed at incredible speed into the planet and remained intact, also larger and more durable Autobots fell and broke through entire buildings and other objects

 

[Thirteen prime]

Now for interest, Omega Supreme in the novel aligned Retribution is described as half a mile in size, and Trypticon is about twice as big, now considering this fall Trypticon will be very funny in terms of durability, and from the novel it is learned that it was in a high orbit and the speed there will be very high, in gpt chat it is claimed that at such an altitude Trypticon weighs 379 million tons.
Apparently, when that small part of the Antispark collides with the matrix, Unicron can trigger a supernova explosion, which is a pretty good range considering that it is a small part of their essence.

Omega Supreme can bomb cities two miles away, destroying squads of Decepticons, Sharkticons, tanks Decepticons, and even many buildings in city blocks.

 

[Optimus Prime 654]

Now for interest, Omega Supreme in the novel aligned Retribution is described as half a mile in size, and Trypticon is about twice as big, now considering this fall Trypticon will be very funny in terms of durability, and from the novel it is learned that it was in a high orbit and the speed there will be very high, in gpt chat it is claimed that at such an altitude Trypticon weighs 379 million tons.View attachment 4453View attachment 4454
Apparently, when that small part of the Antispark collides with the matrix, Unicron can trigger a supernova explosion, which is a pretty good range considering that it is a small part of their essence.
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Omega Supreme can bomb cities two miles away, destroying squads of Decepticons, Sharkticons, tanks Decepticons, and even many buildings in city blocks.
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man Thirteen you are packing alot on these scans SHEESHHHHHH

 

[Optimus Prime 654]

^ this + I’m still not buying him being>Sentinel. That dude dog walked a more heavily armed bloodlusted Optimus than we’ve pretty much ever seen anywhere else in the movies and had to be hit by a sneak attack to lose.

07 Megs is kinda fraudulent honestly. Mfs argue him > Optimus

 

[OtherGalaxy]

07 Megs is kinda fraudulent honestly. Mfs argue him > Optimus

I wouldn't say that, he's definitely > Optimus by virtue of not just generally beating on him but also Optimus deciding killing himself was a better plan B than anything else. He's just also not beyond Optimus in any kind of "gap" that would suggest he's the strongest in the setting, especially when as CD mentioned his TLK self was able to briefly overpower Prime without an arm. He's overrated but not exactly oversold if that makes sense

 

[Thirteen prime]

I wouldn't say that, he's definitely > Optimus by virtue of not just generally beating on him but also Optimus deciding killing himself was a better plan B than anything else. He's just also not beyond Optimus in any kind of "gap" that would suggest he's the strongest in the setting, especially when as CD mentioned his TLK self was able to briefly overpower Prime without an arm. He's overrated but not exactly oversold if that makes sense

I mean that in essence, except for the movie (and still fought well in the background and even did enough damage to push back Megatron) he was nowhere particularly superior to him, at least I mean other sources like the novel or the prequel comic and the comic itself for the first part.

 

[Optimus Prime 654]

I wouldn't say that, he's definitely > Optimus by virtue of not just generally beating on him but also Optimus deciding killing himself was a better plan B than anything else.

I mean it was implied Optimus was holding back since the citizens forced him to ever since his fight with Megatron. Iirc it was potrayed that him and Megatron are equal prior in 07.

especially when as CD mentioned his TLK self was able to briefly overpower Prime without an arm. He's overrated but not exactly oversold if that makes sense

Quintessa iirc potrayed Megatron as stronger than Optimus since in that scene where Megatron got the staff, Megatron said in another version of the movie that "she thinks i'm strong and you are weak". But Quintessa was a deceiver and a liar and like back in AoE, Optimus became weaker via losing all the amps from NEST and idk if TLK was more weaker since Optimus in this whole time was getting his mind fucked and was getting manipulated by Quintessa.

Idk now, since it has been awhile I scaled Bayverse and I forgot few shit (not the movies, only the guides, comics, novels and games. I am thinking to come back to Bayformers scaling eventually once I'm done with exams)

 

[Optimus Prime 654]

I mean that in essence, except for the movie (and still fought well in the background and even did enough damage to push back Megatron) he was nowhere particularly superior to him, at least I mean other sources like the novel or the prequel comic and the comic itself for the first part.

do pardon me, but I think ROTF Optimus is > 07 Megs????

 

[Thirteen prime]

извините, но я думаю, что ROTF Optimus > 07 Мегабайт????

Я ограничился событиями первого фильма.