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Game Vampire The Masquerade: Bloodlines

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Ratchet said:
Lappland: 2
Stargate: 2
Reloaded: 1

Lappland: Ultra > Stargate
Ultra: Lappland
Reloaded: Stargate
Atsumori: Reloaded > Unvote > Reloaded
Ratchet: Lappland

With 8 players its 5 for majority
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We had two in hammer range and no snap hammer. I saw Lappland swapped back to Ultra but that feels pretty informative. Nutmeg, Ultra, Stargate and I were around, so it's really just Gad that was AWOL for each of these. Reloaded maybe not for Stargate but he's already on wagon. Doesn't that look pretty bad for Gad? It's hard to be too conclusive but it basically scum to be on both wagons otherwise.

@stargate What do you make of this?
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I think it's important to keep in mind that Lappland was voting for me for about 15 mins. Very possible scum didn't want to risk starting a wagon until they knew Lappland wasn't likely to change.
 
I feel like 17 minutes is more than enough time to organise a quick hammer assuming they're all around. That's what I'm saying, the only one that seems legitimately AWOL is Gad....

So any solve needs to have one of Stargate, Lappland OR Gad IMO.
 
Stargate18 said:
I think it's important to keep in mind that Lappland was voting for me for about 15 mins. Very possible scum didn't want to risk starting a wagon until they knew Lappland wasn't likely to change.
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Once majority hits, it's over. If Reloaded and Lappland are town, and you're town, scum had the hammer in reach.
 
Ratchet said:
I feel like 17 minutes is more than enough time to organise a quick hammer assuming they're all around. That's what I'm saying, the only one that seems legitimately AWOL is Gad....

So any solve needs to have one of Stargate, Lappland OR Gad IMO.
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FMPOV, I still think Lappland is town, and I know I'm town, so Gad's most likely for me.

It could technically be Lappland, if they voted for me hoping that someone else would also switch to reach hammer, but that feels really unlikely.
 
Stargate18 said:
FMPOV, I still think Lappland is town, and I know I'm town, so Gad's most likely for me.

It could technically be Lappland, if they voted for me hoping that someone else would also switch to reach hammer, but that feels really unlikely.
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His motive wouldn't be to snap vote you it would probably be to demonstrate scum are in xyz etc

Assume he knows what inferences can be drawn off where votes are allocated and might be using them to his advantage basically
 
Ultra said:
I've been thinking for a while he might be be trying to avoid vote related info on reloaded

Been tunneling the mofo all game has 2 votes that aren't him
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I don't think they're aligned but I will say I don't like how Reloaded has handled Lappland today much. Feels like hes avoided the whole Mason dynamic entirely.
 
Ratchet said:
I don't think they're aligned but I will say I don't like how Reloaded has handled Lappland today much. Feels like hes avoided the whole Mason dynamic entirely.
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Yeah maybe

The question is what's the point of him being risk averse here, just miscalculation? Doesn't feel like he has much to lose in his position

FMPOV worst case scenario if he goes all out I still get muddied with him
 
Ultra said:
Yeah maybe

The question is what's the point of him being risk averse here, just miscalculation? Doesn't feel like he has much to lose in his position

FMPOV worst case scenario if he goes all out I still get muddied with him
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I mean you're assuming he knows the whole delta at play there which I'm not sure he would. Eh whatever, doesn't really matter anyway.
 
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