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https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/weakest-tssdk-character-to-beat-alice-toaru.1159627/post-100946896 Literally arguing below Saint level Transcendent magic because of "muh lack of aoe". There's no way :tupac

https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/weakest-tssdk-character-to-beat-alice-toaru.1159627/post-100921057 https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/weakest-tssdk-character-to-beat-alice-toaru.1159627/post-100921474 Do explain what quotes in particular are contradicted, especially regarding JVA, who is specifically not on the level of the average Transcendent. If it's just arguing "muh lack of aoe" I'm going to laugh at you. Destroying the Hidden World which is explicitly called out as something Othinus could neither locate NOR destroy (in NT9, I believe) means he's below her? Yeah no. I'm amazed at how people can put Alice below true Gremlin like even current Aleister would be able to do ANYTHING against her. The only prep he had was actually finding a way to get to the Hidden World in the first place. He fought them all with his standard techniques. Fuck out of here with this agenda pushing nonsense.

https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/soul-reapers-bleach-vs-academy-city-toaru.1159684/post-100944628 Like yeah he's a lot better with prep the literal only prep involved with his fight against true Gremlin was actually GETTING to where they were Considering his general portrayal and his performance against true Gremlin, when he said he "let" Othinus be dealt with by Touma/the strength of the world, he genuinely meant that shit.

This is beginning of series Academy City, so Kakine isn't going to be doing that. Although bombarding the air with transmutative Dark Matter basically shuts down most of the Soul Reaper side (it's debatable if Kakine would do this though).. Aiwass is the guy who taught him basically everything he knows and they didn't ban him:tupac

Truthfully I don't even think they can kill a single of Aleister's possibilities:tupac

He actually mentions that. "Well for starters Fuze Kazakiri does not exist in BoS Toaru. Fuze Kazakiri is created with the virus used on Last Order on September 30th, so she won't have any participation in this battle." I haven't read OT in a while, so I don't recall how true this is.

holy shit he's actually retarded "it's a last resort he uses only against MGs" he literally uses it against random ass organic monsters https://toarumajutsunoindex.fandom.com/wiki/Mimetic_Predator :tupac

https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/soul-reapers-bleach-vs-academy-city-toaru.1159684/post-100943482 An Aleister with 0 magical defenses up to speak of got "killed" (not even true, he regenerated from it, with the narration even stating that it didn't matter where the bullet was fired)? Yeah, that is what happened. Stop ignoring context. No, people need to stop saying this. He's a bonafide top tier, no way around it. Now onto this nonsense.. 1. It doesn't take more than a single handsign for Aleister to use Spiritual Tripping on someone, they don't need to stand around and do nothing for it to "land". 2. Same as above, they don't need to "understand" the gestures he makes for it to take effect, as that's not how Spiritual Tripping even works. 3. It's not a last resort, it's part of his standard arsenal of techniques (Blasting Rod and Spiritual Tripping in particular) that he uses in every fight. 4. Aleister getting blitzed by the people not even faster than Saints...

what the fuck :tupac

Stand proud, Sukuna. You are strong.

I wasn't trying to bait a reaction out of anyone. I laughed because it's a dumb stomp thread.

:giogio

The Sephiroth doesn't really "make" phases such as Heaven, Hell, Asgard, etc per se Human thought/observation shapes the already present formless energy into those realms but I agree that this is basically nitpicking

? I don't see what you mean Alice is at least comparable to Othinus (and debatably far superior, given Othinus' own statements and the narration) It's just a stomp thread lol

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https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/alice-toaru-vs-the-nasuverse.1159423/ :tupac

Shouldn't Flaming;Sword also be mentioned? Pretty sure traversing down the Sephirah in... 0 time(?) would be arguably faster than Gungnir. Nerfed MGs already have statements of destroying the "world" (and thus logically scale to Othinus), yet Flaming;Sword is portrayed as being impossible to react for anyone present.

The miracles in question:

And of course there's T.K. downplaying the speed of Flaming;Sword when the chant of the spell specifically says the attack is released from infinite acceleration (there are no useless parts of a spells chant), it's compared to Othinus throwing Gungnir (which when thrown destroys all the universe-sized phases she creates at once), and the fact that it traverses the entire fucking cosmology in practically 0 time. If it's not literally infinitely fast it's still fast to the point where the numbers basically sound like gibberish.