@shiny Alkamus yapping as usual
https://forums.spacebattles.com/thr...oriichi-tsugikuni-demon-slayer.1140442/page-3
Someone make a comment about some speed feat in Fate that Iori scales to. One of them is Hansa, but not everyone like it so they argue if Hansa's speed is legitimate.
I already talked about that and yeah, that's how they try and degrade feats over there... even though Iori actually has hilariously higher feats than anything Hansa scales to but they LOVE trying to use these types of deals as the MAX rather than actually scaling it.
No???
I'd agree with this for some writers, but that's not a universal rule.
Then who is it applied to for "certain writers" then? Because it seems like Spacebattles members have a really weird ass selection of what writers can be "taken at their word" and who can't. Besides, that's not how VS debates should ever work for numerous reasons.
Some writers actually do try to keep their power levels semi-consistent- For example, I'd say Nasu is one of these. Feat or statements can be interpreted in multiple ways generally, and it's easier to determine author's intent if you look at other feats and see how fast the author thinks a certain character is.
Whenever I hear people say stuff like this unironically in SB, I end up laughing not out loud but in my own head. So Nasu is one of those writers who keep their power levels semi-consistent... so what's the argument then?! Kinoku Nasu supervises anything that comes out from his series and allows writers to go nuts and he adds it in later in the shit he makes. Nasu is the primary writer of Fate/Extra(which started the "power creep"), parts of Main Story of Extella, not only entire parts of FGO's story but explicitly supervises the others and is the one who primarily chooses what's canon or not.
Secondly, Fates and Statements CANNOT be interpreted in multiple different ways, that doesn't even begin to make sense. The only way a feat or statement can be interpreted in that fashion is if the author explicitly tries to make their shit vague(Which wouldn't be counted outright as a feat or statement anyway) which is not the same as what is going on in that thread now in which we get simple ass proof on what the writer stated.
Like. Author's intent is a fairly important idea when it comes to these debates, I'd say. A collection of feats can make it easier to find that intent.
I'm not gonna say anything... I'm gonna let the ones who are smart understand how stupid this sounds on their own...
It's not a perfect model, but it is one way to debate
Yes, doubt what is literally told to you outright because characters who could barely see the feat believed he smashed them despite there being no evidence outside of explicitly looking for it...
VS. The narrator themselves stating it had nothing to do with power but speed and skill and Black Keys aren't made with power in mind from F/SN which stayed true for later series = Hansa diced them up...
Yeah, that makes sense...
Okay, these kinds of remarks are almost always wrong, and will only weaken your position.
It's always funny seeing this be typed up when it's extremely obvious that yes, they ARE playing favorites with Demon Slayer while bitching about Fate to an unrealistic degree every time...
This is even talked about amongst those that don't do this multiple times for other series(You can literally point to a Naruto vs. debate and see how many people basically state that Naruto is barely Mach even well into Part 2 because Sound Jutsu exists) but nah, it weakens your position to point out the blatant hypocrisy.