Psure the only thing standing up to Nasu is Comedian
Ok I think after clarifying like 3 times if you think I said "Black Panther >> Surfer" you are just retarded lol no getting around itits 2024 why the fuck are we still using one off feats from Black Fucking Panther and going "yes this is consistent"
Nah, that part of my post is more adressed to the vs community in general and me being frustrated that people keep bringing that shit up constantly.Ok I think after clarifying like 3 times if you think I said "Black Panther >> Surfer" you are just retarded lol no getting around it
Again, it’s also very easy to shit on Garou too as Chaos and I pointed out
its 2024 why the fuck are we still using one off feats from Black Fucking Panther and going "yes this is consistent"
Fair enough tbhNah, that part of my post is more adressed to the vs community in general
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I literally talk about Yaldabaoth in Yaldabaoth thread is bad accoring to TheWorld
And yea he also insist on Olga being Beast VII
Holy shit, she isn't recognized as Beast VII, that's why the Excalibur Cannon failed on her(Which has all of the same requirements to work at full blast)! Seriously, actually fucking read for two goddamned seconds and not on fucking DeepL and he would know what he's saying is shit.
Still amazing he's pushing Yaldabaoth so hard despite the dude being nothing compared to everything else in Persona, let alone SMT(For fuck's sake, he lost because of a few people close to the Phantom Thieves not only broke the brainwashing, but got everyone else in Tokyo to cheer on the Phantom Thieves to power up Joker above him... the Human Order would overwhelm him)
If Angel's CT is used as the sure hit there won't be a katana with it, the Domain barrier itself is imbued with the CT. All the other CT materialise as Katanas.
That seems like it would be less efficient than just slapping, say, Cleave onto the barrier and using budget Malevolent Shrine to dice Archer into pieces and instantly winning the fight.
Technique Extinguishment would probably wipe out Archer's arsenal but might not be deadly on its own, whereas something like Cleave would be better if he just wants to win instantly.
Even if he summons the swords himself, they would simply be dispersed by Technique Extinguishment, as the swords themselves would be targeted by the sure-hit.
It seems like Yuta can control it to an extent, since Yuji and Rika aren't being hit by it at all.
And I feel like Rule 13 would allow Tracing NPs to be negated by it as well.
Again, it’s also very easy to shit on Garou too as Chaos and I pointed out
Anyway, no one escapes the inconsistency problems, people shit on comics more because of the amount of writers (with some really liking their pet characters a tad too much) and decades of material. Kind of understandable, but then you have people like CoolCubed who doesn’t seem to be interested in any kind of honest debate and basically just acts like a youtuber trying to farm for attention with some “debunk video”.
Even with that whole oodles of writers and decades of material thing, there’s still a pretty broad general picture you can paint of Heralds/top end space heroes at their “best”
Mucking about with celestial bodies aren’t really treated as one-offs for guys on that tier. Yeah, you can go lower, pathetically lower even, but that applies to like 90% of super powered fiction. People who can wreck planets won’t do it all the time for one reason or another
- Thor’s Mjolnir can bust planets as said decades ago and then is brought back up again several years later by Jason Aaron
- Gladiator punches a planet to pieces
- Gladiator has narrative hype about being able to crush a neutron star or something and then again with him being able to rip apart a black hole.
- Also survives containing an explosion that would’ve wasted half a solar system according to Reed
- Surfer destroys a planet and also a nearby moon with his clash against Morg, fights Red Shift in a black hole, then destroys a planet again in Annihilation just to prove a point
- Terrax busts a planet just after a chunk of his Power Cosmic got slurped up by Randau
- Ronan’s energy manipulation plus Quasar’s raw power stopping two stars from going nova and conjoined them in Annihilators, with guidance from Surfer’s cosmic awareness
- The Annihilators then rearrange the planets to adjust them to more suitable orbits
- Then it’s mentioned they have to deal with a sentient black hole
I mean sure but Archer would have to hold those swords to use them, generally. Yuta has to, and even if Archer can control the replicated blades telekinetically there's not a lot of evidence he could use newly created swords' techniques from long range.
It does not. If a CT is imbued into the domain's barrier, then it's not placed in the katanas. Only the other CTs are placed in the katanas.
Nothing in theory, but that seems like something that would require knowledge he doesn't have. After all, most RMs can't simply be breached from the outside like that. Also, the fact that Emiya might just die from the sure-hit, or at least be seriously injured by it.
Why is that an NLF? Rule 13 would just mean that Technique Extinguishment works on NPs like it does on cursed objects; whether or not it can successfully negate the effects depends entirely on feats, though Emiya's Tracing doesn't exactly have feats for resisting getting disrupted like that.
Why is it a NLF?
Noble Phantasms are exactly like Cursed Objects and thus should be easily destroyed by Technique Extinguishment
And Rule 13 might let UBW clash, but even clashing doesn't necessarily negate sure-hits. For instance, when Malevolent Shrine and UV overlapped, when Sukuna turned off his sure-hit effect, that let UV's sure-hit effect resume hitting everything. The only reason that Sukuna wasn't affected was because he was touching Gojo at the time and therefore wasn't targeted. Megumi canceling out Dagon's sure-hit was because his own incomplete domain was directly touching and interacting with Dagon's barrier.
Whether or not you think UBW would win the tug of war between Authentic Mutual Love would likely be entirely up to OP fiat, since there's no way to compare how "refined" each one is.
With OG VN/Anime feats, his regular arrows doesn't have the capabilities to decimate buildings, that would be something an NP would do.
Here, Herakles tanks 8 arrows from EMIYA suggested to be able to mow down houses. Here, an arrow from EMIYA with the power of a tankshell hits Herakles temple. Here, Herakles tanks 3 more of EMIYA's arrows to the forehead. Here, Herakles charges Artoria, both EMIYA's arrows and Rin's obsidian jewel magic attack fail to stop his charge or damage him through God Hand.
I mean, sure, maybe not on the same level as Ramesseum, but why does Triste just get the go ahead there?
Both are basically the same thing, Don Quixote just specifically forces 'mystery' to be locked to basically 17th century Spain. It's not some grand thing there like Ramesseum (even if Don Quixote is God Tier in my heart.)
I don't think he ever actually uses it on a servant to see what that would even do to a noble phantasm, in fact, I think the only in story time he used it was to somehow escape the Atlantic Lostbelt after Herc got beamed. So, it's not like it has some super good feat that would make it better than the Angel's technique either.
In comparison, Angel just... turns things off and destroys techniques. She blew up the Prison Realm with one 'attack', she was fucking Sukuna up with only a few attacks (and I think she instantly dispersed Nue with the same attack), and as Yuta is showing now if Sukuna doesn't use Hollow Wicker Basket all of his techniques would also be a goner, and potentially the same thing that happened when he first possessed Megumi happens again and it does massive damage.
It's also hyped as bypassing Infinity and basically everything since it just turns techniques off, but that's different from your point anyway.
If Angel used her technique on Archer while he's projecting, I see no reason why the weapons wouldn't get poofed immediately.
Balmung, it likely wouldn't go anywhere and would likely only disrupt the beam, but projections that explicitly poof after he's done with them? I can't see Angel's technique failing there, especially if its in the form of a sure hit. (Albeit, the direct attack version is probably magnitudes more potent.)
Takes a look...
fake rubber planetsAgain, it’s also very easy to shit on Garou too as Chaos and I pointed out
Anyway, no one escapes the inconsistency problems, people shit on comics more because of the amount of writers (with some really liking their pet characters a tad too much) and decades of material. Kind of understandable, but then you have people like CoolCubed who doesn’t seem to be interested in any kind of honest debate and basically just acts like a youtuber trying to farm for attention with some “debunk video”.
Even with that whole oodles of writers and decades of material thing, there’s still a pretty broad general picture you can paint of Heralds/top end space heroes at their “best”
Mucking about with celestial bodies aren’t really treated as one-offs for guys on that tier. Yeah, you can go lower, pathetically lower even, but that applies to like 90% of super powered fiction. People who can wreck planets won’t do it all the time for one reason or another
- Thor’s Mjolnir can bust planets as said decades ago and then is brought back up again several years later by Jason Aaron
- Gladiator punches a planet to pieces
- Gladiator has narrative hype about being able to crush a neutron star or something and then again with him being able to rip apart a black hole.
- Also survives containing an explosion that would’ve wasted half a solar system according to Reed
- Surfer destroys a planet and also a nearby moon with his clash against Morg, fights Red Shift in a black hole, then destroys a planet again in Annihilation just to prove a point
- Terrax busts a planet just after a chunk of his Power Cosmic got slurped up by Randau
- Ronan’s energy manipulation plus Quasar’s raw power stopping two stars from going nova and conjoined them in Annihilators, with guidance from Surfer’s cosmic awareness
- The Annihilators then rearrange the planets to adjust them to more suitable orbits
- Then it’s mentioned they have to deal with a sentient black hole
Yeah, Lucius' ressurection has Slaanesh' backing in addition to daemonic magic.Old Roa was completely killed and couldn't reincarnate when his point was destroyed
Lucius might get greater daemon scaling though, albeit it's noted he was weaker
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