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Kiara Sessyion VS Kamen Rider OOOs

That would naturally occur with normal powerscaling anyways since most of the crossover movies from Decade x Den-O are canon.
 
That would naturally occur with normal powerscaling anyways since most of the crossover movies from Decade x Den-O are canon.
Didn't Zi-O retcon those though? With the entire the rider worlds are actually separate plot point?

Edit: Decade did the same thing as well. Making the rider worlds separate existences.
 
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Didn't Zi-O retcon those though? With the entire the rider worlds are actually separate plot point?

Edit: Decade did the same thing as well. Making the rider worlds separate existences.
Zi-Oh didn't retcon it.

Decade established there is a multiverse and all the Rider Worlds are interconnected as parallel universes to each other, the AR worlds (Alternate Rider/Alternate Reality) of the Heisei Riders for AR Kuuga to AR Kiva aren't the same as the real Kuuga and Kiva; i.e. we saw the real Kenzakai Kazuma appear to beat up and humiliate Tsukasa right after AR Kazuma got hakai'd and his world of AR Blade temporarily erased.

Also after this, please consider this an official statement that you need to take a moratorium on making any variation of vs threads involving Fate/Type-Moon.
 
Okay then, she's Solar System with the ability to chuck people across the Galaxy on sheer whim and that was while she was held back considerably on multiple factors.
Seriously? I thought she was planetary, okay then how powerful is FGo Kiara, I don't want this to be a stomp.

Zi-Oh didn't retcon it.
I thought the entire premise was that the Rider Worlds were fusing because Swartz?


What about this then?








Onore Dikeido dude here is referring to the riders as coming from their own worlds.

So are these not the real riders then?

Also after this, please consider this an official statement that you need to take a moratorium on making any variation of vs threads involving Fate/Type-Moon.
Alright.

Where the hell is DBZ vs. something for pete sake
Sorry, I've never watched DBZ.
 
Dickaids worlds are explicitly different than the other riders worlds hence why they’re called alternate riders.

Fang/Hunter explained it here:
 
Seriously? I thought she was planetary, okay then how powerful is FGo Kiara, I don't want this to be a stomp.

No, Both Kiara's is Solar System Minimum due to scaling to Saver and Boddhisvata equally scale to him:
Fate/EXTRA material - Encyclopedia: All the World's Desire [Noble Phantasm], p.158-159

This later fits with how strong various Beasts are even at minimum levels.
And Kiara in CCC would be even stronger if she wasn't gimped by her personality, BB, Meltryllis and the other Sakura 5 rebelling against her and Han's Noble Phantasm didn't attain it's full effect.
 
Yes he already told me that, I was wondering if the riders in the images I showed were the real riders or AR Riders.
Just because they’re called the same doesn’t mean they Are the same

decades kiva is a small 10 year old boy and his kuuga is an insult to the heisei show
 
AR Worlds

The Nine AR Worlds of Kuuga, Agito, Ryuki, Faiz, Blade, Hibiki, Kabuto, Den-O, and Kiva, plus the World of Nega Riders, World of Monsters, and a few others. Then there are different worlds in All Riders vs Dai Shocker.

Its not the same.

AR Riders are explicitly from different worlds and are different versions of the original nine Heisei Riders.

Hence real Blade = ! = AR Blade
Hence real Kiva = ! = AR Kiva

etc...

Zi-Oh was more about alternating different timelines while Decade was about alternate and parallel universes. And the screencaps you posted are from the TV series with the AR Riders.
 
Just because they’re called the same doesn’t mean they Are the same

decades kiva is a small 10 year old boy and his kuuga is an insult to the heisei show
Also the real Kiva serves as Decade's "narrator" and guide to him being a Kamen Rider, then AR Kiva shows up as a little kid from his own AR world, not too mention the Undead being fully killable in AR Blade's world or how AR Kuuga's major secondary protagonist was genderbent into a woman

The novel adaptions of Decade involve him going to the real Heisei Rider worlds where he gets the shit kicked out of him by Tendou for example, the REAL Tendou, not AR Tendou aka SOUJI
 
decades kiva is a small 10 year old boy and his kuuga is an insult to the heisei show
Wow. okay.

So then if CCC Kiara is a stomp would FGO Kiara be a fairer fight?

I've watched the OOO's series but I've never watched the movies with him other than the Heisei Generations Build x Ex-Aid crossover with him.

If I remember correctly his best feat outside of scaling is the one where he goes through the earth's core to power up his rider kick right?
 
The riders in zi o are the real ones because zi o takes place post each respective riders show. Once an another rider is created it retcons the events of the show until the another rider is defeated. The only exception is kabuto where mizushima doesn’t show up as tendou because toei are a bunch of cucks so the burden falls on kagami/gattack instead

eternal is also from another alternate world but he got a broken ass powerup to make up for it.

Anyway for the main topic:
Eiji has: combo spam via gatakiriba so he can use all of his alternate forms and finishers at once

freezing/absolute zero via putotyra ice breath/scream
Dimensional fuckery with his medaljaibur

super speed with latoratah
And most importantly he shuts down kiaras desire based mindfuck since eiji has no desires of his own
 
I have no idea what CCC Kiara can do.
Wait, but aren't the Riders in Zi-O explicitly the real ones?
Yes but you were being explained by us that the main 9 worlds in Decade involve the AR Heisei Riders, not the real 9 Heisei Riders or their worlds along with several other worlds. Zi-Oh involves the real Riders. Its the same shit with the AR Riders like in Kamen Rider Gaim's standalone movie where there are Buujin versions of Kuuga, Agito, Ryuki, Faiz, Blade, Hibiki, Kabuto, Den-O, Kiva, Decade, Double, OOOs, Fourze, and Wizard.

You have the real Riders making themselves explicitly contrasted from the AR Counterparts in Decade.
Or again with the real Heisei Riders showing up in Wizard's final 2 episodes when fighting Adadum. And like Zi-Oh.