@OtherGalaxy @Thirteen prime are we fr gonna say Star Convoy is Optimus' strongest form and by far the only guy carrying the Optimus gaunlet?wait what the fuck????? Optimus turned into Star Convoy ALSO BY THE MATRIX??????? Like the combination of the Zodiac energy and with the Matrix turned Optimus to Star Convoy in the original Battlestars TV Magazine. Wasn't actually shown that he was empowered by the Matrix aswell, but according to lore wise, he was since in Legends issue 19 following after the events of Headmasters where Optimus died for the second time and Hot Rod became Rodimus again, Rodimus returned the Matrix and became a micromaster, in the toy he reunited with Optimus and the japanese commerical of Return of Convoy likely shows Hot Rod kinda empowering Optimus aswell.
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and plus this issue also involves Optimus' revival.
Consider that since Star Optimus' recent AOTP bio even states as him empowering by both the Matrix and the Zodiac.
It's too early to draw conclusions@OtherGalaxy @Thirteen prime are we fr gonna say Star Convoy is Optimus' strongest form and by far the only guy carrying the Optimus gaunlet?
Apparently, this is how Furman is beyond our understanding.If this is the direction he's going it looks like he's vaguely tying in concepts from the Covenant with Multiversal singularities on purpose?
lmfaoI've missed a few Earth Wars videos so I'm not 100% sure on the context of this but Furman seems to be alluding here that G1 Optimus is a part of the Arisen too????? What the hell
Multiversal G1 OptimusIf this is the direction he's going it looks like he's vaguely tying in concepts from the Covenant with Multiversal singularities on purpose?
they do have scripts i'm p sure. Tfwiki uploaded those archivesyou know, since earth wars doesn't actually have any visuals besides characters moving around (the backgrounds have nothing to do with the stories at all) it'd be nice if they just released this shit as text stories officially or something lol
would never ever happen but I can dream
they're not available anywhere though. TFWiki probably manually uploaded transcripts for the first few years to their source material, but they're literally 4 years behind because there's just so much to cover. That kind of thing shouldn't even be necessary from fansthey do have scripts i'm p sure
ahhthey're not available anywhere though. TFWiki probably manually uploaded transcripts for the first few years to their source material, but they're literally 4 years behind because there's just so much to cover. That kind of thing shouldn't even be necessary from fans
he could either be a sort of reincarnation or he meant "we" as in primes in general "there used to be thirteen of us primes" rather than "we were part of the thirteen"I've missed a few Earth Wars videos so I'm not 100% sure on the context of this but Furman seems to be alluding here that G1 Optimus is a part of the Arisen too????? What the hell
slow down ig. Since like it was said the Thirteenth here IS Nova Prime and I don't think Laser Optimus is a prime though. That statement from G1 Optimus saying "you are a prime" "you have the power of a prime" is I think a pure hyberbole statement since Laser Optimus had nothing to do with the Thirteen. However, recent stories are saying Optimus was once recognised as one of the Thirteen, but we don't see any further details about it. Maybe or possibly he is getting retconned to the thirteenth prime????? But Furman outright stated Nova is the thirteenth memberI've missed a few Earth Wars videos so I'm not 100% sure on the context of this but Furman seems to be alluding here that G1 Optimus is a part of the Arisen too????? What the hell
Well most continuities do also inspire from the Convenant roster. Also like the Convenant roster was heavily based on Archer's early lineup of the primes, but he kept the Thirteenth member pretty vague for some reason since it is quite debatable by folks Optimus was the Thirteenth, but the identity was shrouded and kept in mystery and vary in multiple continuitiesIf this is the direction he's going it looks like he's vaguely tying in concepts from the Covenant with Multiversal singularities on purpose?
It could 100% be hyperbolic statement or smth Furman is gonna retcon for Optimus being the Thirteenth. Though I hate this concept for Optimus being one of the primes, like Optimus has it's OWN THING why make him one of the Thirteenhe could either be a sort of reincarnation or he meant "we" as in primes in general "there used to be thirteen of us primes" rather than "we were part of the thirteen"
if hes taking it the aligned route ill let him cook for now though i dislike the concept
it's mainly weird for Optimus to mention them once being 13 in regards to Laser Optimus being a Prime, like there's just kinda...no reason to bring that up at all otherwise?he could either be a sort of reincarnation or he meant "we" as in primes in general "there used to be thirteen of us primes" rather than "we were part of the thirteen"
if hes taking it the aligned route ill let him cook for now though i dislike the concept
I think we shall wait for more context on this in future stories since iirc in Forged to Fight, Megatronus even recognised Optimus as the "13th", but Optimus had no idea what Fallen was talking aboutOptimus literally says to Laser Optimus that "he remembers we were 13 once" thats the part I was referring to. Also I have no idea why Laser Optimus wouldn't be considered a prime, Optimus seems to pretty directly spell that out at least.
I hate this concept. In the case of Star Convoy, it make sense ig, but I hate it when Hasbro and Takara said he is " the original thirteen" which seems to retcon Autonomus' character. Starting to think that statement from Star Optimus' bio that says "one of the original 13 born on Cybertron" is a continuity error since they are also stating this on other primes. Maybe Optimus was amped by both the Matrix and the Zodiac to become the new 13th???? Sure that is good if the Zodiac has that Halo of Primus representationit's mainly weird for Optimus to mention them once being 13 in regards to Laser Optimus being a Prime, like there's just kinda...no reason to bring that up at all otherwise?
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