so lille was cut by a reiatsu blade? so with the standard energy equalization that means any chakra/ki/etc focused attack would work or am I misunderstanding how this works
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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 3: Laugh Hard with a Vengence
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"Bu..but everything has a soul, that's how that happens. Of course they're intangible despite all evidence to the contrary."
Like Sables saying Gremmy's guns would need to be spiritual to touch Kenpachi even though it's directly acknowledged that physical things can touch Soul Reapers and Hollows in-verse because their spiritual bodies are so dense.
Meanwhile I'm laughing in Ghost Reaper Girl spirits being the exact opposite. In that they're actually naturally intangible and in fact it takes conscious effort for more powerful spirits to make a physical body for themselves, so they can interact with the physical world at all.
In fairness I thought his ability was space related, but I suppose I did read that fight recently (so I could fairly rate it in a thread) and I don't remember him saying anything of the sort. Huh?
It's hard to explain but Shunsui's Bankai basically follows a Japanese Poem that is basically a Lover's Suicide.
The last part is basically following the Couple Hanging themselves and thus he creates a Reishi Thread that heads towards the victim and basically wraps itself around their throat and crushes it before completely twisting their head off and exploding.
It's more of the effect of the Bankai itself as anyone in it is susceptible to it no matter what Shunsui does or wants. That's why I say it proves Lille still exists naturally and is just intangible and nothing else.
if it attaches reishi to them then spirit energy should still be viable???? confused 
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The above attack being described as a cut made from spiritual pressure (Reiatsu)
"Bu..but everything has a soul, that's how that happens. Of course they're intangible despite all evidence to the contrary."
Like Sables saying Gremmy's guns would need to be spiritual to touch Kenpachi even though it's directly acknowledged that physical things can touch Soul Reapers and Hollows in-verse because their spiritual bodies are so dense.
Meanwhile I'm laughing in Ghost Reaper Girl spirits being the exact opposite. In that they're actually naturally intangible and in fact it takes conscious effort for more powerful spirits to make a physical body for themselves, so they can interact with the physical world at all.
Yeah, I actually remember that part because people forget Hollows CAN be hurt by physical objects as long as it has any amount of Spiritual Energy in it(see Chad hitting a Hollow with a Telephone Pole in the Substitute Arc).
It's always hilarious people think that they are intangible and immune to get hurt when people forget that arc or the fact that the characters still affect the physical plane in their brief fights in the World of the Living.
In fairness I thought his ability was space related, but I suppose I did read that fight recently (so I could fairly rate it in a thread) and I don't remember him saying anything of the sort. Huh?
He didn't say that but people believe he's like that due to completely not understanding that Shinigami and Hollows aren't Intangible and have very physical bodies, you just can't see them without Spiritual Energy
ngl that panel of Shunsui cutting him is kind of coolSee for yourself
The above attack being described as a cut made from spiritual pressure (Reiatsu)
then this is the most overhyped intang everSee for yourself
The above attack being described as a cut made from spiritual pressure (Reiatsu)
he just also has good regen which is way more useful in this context
Shunsui is kind of a cool dude in general.
if it attaches reishi to them then spirit energy should still be viable???? confused
Like I said, it's confusing because yeah, what I and him describe DID happen but basically think of it like this:
If he does his Bankai, the entire area has to follow the Lover's Suicide no matter what and anything he does is superfluous.
Think of it like basically a Stand Ability like someone in Part 6 or something.
Ngl, Shunsui’s got one of the coolest Zanpaktou in Bleach
That's basically what I meant the whole time. I didn't know he actually got cut by Reiatsu itself(That really does tone down the Intangibility angle) but people focused on him being impossible to ever hurt due to the Intangibility rather than the ridiculous Regen he got and try and pretend he's somehow outside of Space or some shit.
ohhhhh I get it
so he created a space where it was possible to attack him with reishi
so something like a Domain Expansion would probably also work JJK just doesn't have the stats for it to matter
His Shikai is definitely.
I personally think his Bankai's a little too far on the straight up broken side. One of the coolest things about his Shikai was that, while the ability was strong, if you figured how it worked you could use it against him. Then it becomes a question of who outplays who.
Whereas his Bankai is pretty much an instant win against most characters not leagues stronger than him.
Yes, that's exactly it right there!
There's also anything that can hurt Intangibles or affect the area, space, reality, etc.
His regeneration is still a big problem but it's the intangibility that wanked to hell and back.
For me, it’s style that matters and few match Shinsui in that regard.
Ichibei is up there too with Ichimonji being pretty cool.
Accelerator's Personal Reality too
Or Reality Marbles now that I think about it..
Again, it's a stupidly overhyped part of Lille people go nuts over when hilariously, alot of abilities can completely fuck it over or no sell it because basic intangibility isn't all that strong since you still exist, you just can't be touched in the typical way.
His X-Axis and his ludicrous regen are far bigger problems but people put WAY too much stock into "He can't be hit normally" when that isn't true for most works of fiction.
You could argue something like that with the wound sharing and disease affliction but that blade cut was a pretty direct attack and the only mentioning of a space is that his Bankai has an area of effect that will affect everyone indiscriminately within. Nothing about reality itself being bound by the rules
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