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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 3: Laugh Hard with a Vengence

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Randomdude said:
I mean it legitimately is a magical gun, which for reference are rather weird.

From overlord volume 13

Page 240: It used mana to fire bullet-like bolts and it felt like a crossbow. Shizu had said something about the gunpowder not showing any signs of combustion or something, but Neia had not understood any of it, so the explanation was wasted on her

It produces a pew sound when not on full burst page 253: she could hear Shizu’s spell gun going pew pew pew

It has a full burst mode page 253:“…Reloading… full burst.” There was a piercing kyuuuuun and then a cacophonous dakka dakka dakka dakka thundered down the passageway. Unlike the pew pew sound from before, this was a sound that was filled with an oppressive brutality

Despite not showing signs of combustion, it does seem to produce fire when shot
page 274: The muzzle spat fire, and the great demon grabbed its shoulder and stumbled back

And from overlord volume 14 page 259: Compared to Shizu’s assault rifle type Arcane Rifle, this enemy’s Arcane Rifle was more of a heavy machine gun type according to Cocytus

So following this the gun uses mana to launch projectiles but also has gunpowder that doesn't combust like real gunpowder despite producing flames when used in the gun.


TBF to new world, even if everyone did march on nazarick by word of god they simply couldn't take the tomb, ainz and coe are so out of scale for the setting they legitimately wouldn't lose even if the whole world turned against them
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It's magic but we have no idea how much better it is compared to a normal HMG. Which is why we keep the muzzle rounds the same, Albedo explicitly had trouble dodging them and had to parry them back. Unless it's stated that the bullets are faster than a normal HMG she and the other Guardians are capped at bullet-timing.

Also, tbh Maru seems to go back and forth on that, Maru has apparently stated for both the WN and LN that if all of the New World united together (Nations, Dragon Lords, and other beings) they would actually be able to defeat Nazarick. I wouldn't be surprised if it was retconned though.
 
Xhominid the Fool said:
No he was, the point I'm making is that Ichigo wasn't on the same spiritual level as The Almighty, that's it.
Because again, we would have to pretend beings like Galactus can be affected by The Almighty when if the Soul King and his appendages cannot, why the hell can Galactus?
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Not sure if using Galactus is the best example when he has practically every power you can name.
I wouldn't be surprised if there are instances of him blocking someone's precog with it.
The Power Cosmic is a motherfucker :mjlol
 
Paxton said:
Not sure if using Galactus is the best example when he has practically every power you can name.
I wouldn't be surprised if there are instances of him blocking someone's precog with it.
The Power Cosmic is a motherfucker :mjlol
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I use Galactus as my primary example to show how when people use examples like you did, it can get into ridiculous NLF territory.
You remember the "Itachi defeating The Living Tribunal" nonsense right? That's actually due to people taking Itachi's abilities to their absolute limit and actually believing the "No one but an Uchiha can defeat an Uchiha" seriously(Then you had a Hyuga sweat the shit out of Itachi and Shisui in a non-canon Novel...) crap.

I can use other smaller examples like Shrike, Goku, Fayt Leingod and so on but Galactus is my Go to...

Yet, Fayt... gives me an idea...

Randomdude said:
Fair enough, I was just pointing out it is a magic gun and they're rather odd weapons from the descriptions we've gotten so far and figured Id share what little we know about them.
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I understand that, I'm just saying that yeah, it's a magical gun but we do need an actual description of how powerful it is or we default to HMG as it was stated to be like.
Otherwise, we get into the nonsense that Albedo blocked Planetary bullets because "it's a Magical Gun silly" logic.
 
I don't disagree but for clarfication she didn't block them, the gun wasn't enchanted properly so they couldn't even touch her, all the floor guardians are immune to non magical projectiles.

From overlord volume 14 page 260:
The bullets fired by the enemy were about to connect with Albedo’s armor— Oops… that was a big miscalculation…

—She had thought that her armor would mitigate most of the damage, but there wasn’t even a need for that. None of the bullets struck her, they all curved away.

It seemed likely that none of the bullets were enchanted. At the Floor Guardians’ level, one would have complete immunity to unenchanted projectiles. If his weapon had not been enchanted, he should not have equipped it at all

Which brings it's own bizzare ass worldbuilding, weapons can be inherently magical (Arcane rifle using mana) and not enchanted. But even if it's literally a magic gun/arcane rifle, it doesn't count as a magical attack without the enchantment.
 
Xhominid the Fool said:
I use Galactus as my primary example to show how when people use examples like you did, it can get into ridiculous NLF territory.
You remember the "Itachi defeating The Living Tribunal" nonsense right? That's actually due to people taking Itachi's abilities to their absolute limit and actually believing the "No one but an Uchiha can defeat an Uchiha" seriously(Then you had a Hyuga sweat the shit out of Itachi and Shisui in a non-canon Novel...) crap.

I can use other smaller examples like Shrike, Goku, Fayt Leingod and so on but Galactus is my Go to...

Yet, Fayt... gives me an idea...



I understand that, I'm just saying that yeah, it's a magical gun but we do need an actual description of how powerful it is or we default to HMG as it was stated to be like.
Otherwise, we get into the nonsense that Albedo blocked Planetary bullets because "it's a Magical Gun silly" logic.
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Thing is, 2 of the 3 people you mentioned (minus Goku, obviously), have ways to circumvent precog (I'm assuming anyway).

I'm just referring to his precog btw, obviously the Almighty can't do shit to either of them regardless due to the actual mechanics behind it preventing arbitrary outcomes from coming to fruition via its usage.
 
Paxton said:
Thing is, 2 of the 3 people you mentioned (minus Goku, obviously), have ways to circumvent precog (I'm assuming anyway).

I'm just referring to his precog btw, obviously the Almighty can't do shit to either of them regardless due to the actual mechanics behind it preventing arbitrary outcomes from coming to fruition via its usage.
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Actually, Fayt Leingod has no way to deal with The Almighty in terms of Precognition... he would just destroy the concept of The Almighty entirely alongside Yhwach lol.

"Destruction" is such bullshit :oldryoma
 
Papa Nier said:
Not like that would matter since Fayt and anyone from Star Ocean are way faster for him to take action.
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True, I'm just pointing out that "lolAlmighty" wouldn't matter to Fayt or Maria no matter how hard you try.

Yhwach: I can rewrite the Future
Maria: But can you rewrite the laws of the Universe
Yhwach: ...
*Maria basically makes the Universe reject The Almighty"
Yhwach: Guess I'll die...
:kobeha
 
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To Aru Golden Dawn vs Bleach Verse

Soul King Yhwach instantly sees the Future with Almighty and steals all the power that were used on him in the future before they were even planned to be used by his opponents. Then Spirit Hitler Jesus Moustache xeleestomps the To Aru side with their own prep time arsenal of tricks. The End...
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To Aru Golden Dawn vs Bleach Verse

So it's a matter of preparation, but the thing is, if they cannot have that ready for when the fight start then it would be useless, since the Am would make it users (Yhwach and his father) immune to everything, not to mention allow them to steal whatever the opponents have granted, i know there...
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Uh huh.
 
Xhominid the Fool said:
This atleast has some basis as Yhwach is SUPPOSED to be able to use the other Sternritter abilities since he absorbs everything of the person he gives his power to back...

But Anti-Thesis?! The whole point with Uryu is that Yhwach CAN'T recall Uryu's abilities or self back to him and he TRIED to do that with Auschwalen, the fuck he would have Anti-Thesis for?!
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I edited my message because I realized they didn't actually say that.

Whoops.
 
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Shiroyanagi Akira vs Kamijou Touma

I forgot about the match, if Akira has Yuri to assist him, he can have her think he has the same power as her to amp his stats. The two would then rush Touma in a pincer attack from the front and back. Touma has trouble fighting multiple foes and he only has one right hand to save him.
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The source for this claim being Touma's humble bragging, let me guess. :mjlol
 
the funniest thing about the almighty is the whole "anything he sees he knows" thing cause that implies that if he cant see shit then he just gets blasted. so Accelerator and Kumogawa absolutely shit stomp him into the ground cause there's nothing to SEE with their powers
:hestonpls
 
Masterblack06 said:
the funniest thing about the almighty is the whole "anything he sees he knows" thing cause that implies that if he cant see shit then he just gets blasted. so Accelerator and Kumogawa absolutely shit stomp him into the ground cause there's nothing to SEE with their powers
:hestonpls
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That's basically it, yeah.

If he can't see something in the future (if at all), he can't affect it.
 
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