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Paxton said:
What's it do?
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Astaro said:
Traps the target in a pocket universe where every harm they’ve done others is inflicted to them
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I keep saying Wheel of Sin but I mean just the base level Wheel of Judgement.

Just and AOE "everything you've every done to someone gets inflicted back on you" think of it like the penance stare but its an AOE and actually physically causes damage and ignores durability and doesnt care about good or evil
 
Wheel of Sin is basically the more powerful version of Judgment anyway
 
Paxton said:
www.quora.com

Which Jojo bizarre adventure characters can beat Touma from a certain magical index?

Answer: Good question. I haven’t seen the show yet, but from the research I did on the fandom site, I should probably start it. I’m gonna start by going over Stands, then I’ll get to Vampires and Hamon. The main thing with this is the fine-print of his ability. If we define Stands as “esper” ...
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:tupac
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Pillar Men, Vampires, Zombies, and Hamon users

Some Stands too. Metallica (based on how Mental Out which manipulated brain fluids works on Touma, so iron in the blood so long as it’s not at his right hand works too) comes to kind or Dragons Dream
 
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Paxton said:
I still have no idea wtf Dragons Dream does to this day :mjgrin
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the wiki does a good job of explaining it

Feng Shui​

To understand Dragon's Dream, one must understand the principle of Feng Shui behind it.

"Feng Shui", also literally read as "Wind and Water" is a famous form of divination originating from East Asia. It suggests that by determining natural flows of energy such as the flow of the wind and the flow of the water, one can discern paths to follow. It is usually used to determine good and bad areas in a piece of land so that the well-being of those inhabiting a house built on this land is optimized, and was used to determine the strong and weak points of fortresses.

"Feng Shui Assassination" is a martial art using the same principles to determine what points of the body to hit and how to position oneself for the strike to maximize lethality and evade blows no matter how alert and prepared the target is.[3] According to Dragon's Dream, the only way to defeat a Feng Shui Assassination User is to aim for a draw in bad luck and hope that the assassin succumbs first.[4]

Feng Shui Luck Reading​

Inspired by the principle of Feng Shui, Dragon's Dream's ability is split between its body and a ring both functioning as a compass on which Kenzou can read the coordinates (in cardinal directions, degrees and minutes) of "lucky spots", points in space in which Kenzou can evade attacks thanks to the lucky place, and inversely "unlucky spots", points in which his blows would be fatal.[1][3]

Kenzou summons the compass in his hands to typically determine the lucky spots in which he is sure to not be hit by attacks. To reach them, the old man typically moves around using strange movements to stay inside the lucky spots.[1]

When an unlucky spot is read, Dragon's Dream's body materializes as an arrow inside a hovering ethereal sphere pointing toward the spot. If Kenzou can put a strike inside the sphere surrounding Dragon's Dream, then the blow will be redirected toward a mortal area for the enemy, shown as a limb disappearing before materializing near the victim to attack. Either the blow will be fatal, or events will conspire to deal a wound to the victim through unlikely coincidences, in case Kenzou's attack is blocked.[3]

Inversely, if Kenzou can force someone to touch Dragon's Dream's sphere, it also counts as a successful attack, which results in an "accidental" injury for the target.[2]

There is no counter to the perfectly accurate readings of Dragon's Dream. However, one can trick Kenzou into misreading the coordinates of his lucky spots and therefore render him vulnerable to attacks thanks to his overconfidence.[4]
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Paxton said:
I still have no idea wtf Dragons Dream does to this day :mjgrin
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It’s based on Feng Shui, something Toaru uses too

Basically, the old man (forgot his name) puts himself in the best spot or area to hit that basically grants him supernatural luck. Underrated Part 6 fight IMO since it was a cool concept.

Also Stands that make up countless individuals or call upon them would be a bad match up for Touma like Bad Company, Harvest, Limp Bizkett, and Sky High
 
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Astaro said:
It’s based on Feng Shui, something Toaru uses too

Basically, the old man (forgot his name) puts himself in the best spot or area to hit that basically grants him supernatural luck. Underrated Part 6 fight IMO since it was a cool concept.

Also Stands that make up countless individuals would be a bad match up for Touma like Bad Company and Harvest
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How would Touma deal with Green Green Grass of Home btw?
 
I mean he could literally just stick his hand out and approach the Green Baby :hm
 
You know whats a stand a lot of people dont talk about?

Death 13. Like i know it only works when your sleeping but the shits still busted
 
Masterblack06 said:
You know whats a stand a lot of people dont talk about?

Death 13. Like i know it only works when your sleeping but the shits still busted
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Not a good counter since whatever power you had active goes with you to the dream world though. Kakyoin beat it since he was knocked out while Hierophant Green was active
 
Astaro said:
Not a good counter if whatever power guy had active goes with you to the dream world though. Kakyoin beat it since he was knocked out while Hierophant Green was active
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true but most people wouldnt know to keep that shit active when they go to sleep, so if death 13 was coming after you and you didnt know, you'd be pretty fucked

like imagine the last thing you hear before you die is
 
Masterblack06 said:
true but most people wouldnt know to keep that shit active when they go to sleep, so if death 13 was coming after you and you didnt know, you'd be pretty fucked

like imagine the last thing you hear before you die is
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But if you had a power that’s always passively active or it’s just your own being. Than no. Combined that with it being a pretty weak Stand, that’s why it’s not all that used in debates
 
Astaro said:
But if you had a power that’s always passively active or it’s just your own being. Than no. Combined that with it being a pretty weak Stand, that’s why it’s not all that used in debates
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Its not used in debates because you need to be sleeping for it to work, not because its a weak stand. i think thats a much more important factor
:hestonpls
 
Masterblack06 said:
Its not used in debates because you need to be sleeping for it to work, not because its a weak stand. i think thats a much more important factor
:hestonpls
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Battlefield location takes place in the Dream world where you fight Death 13. Done
 
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