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OBD Convo #39: never give up

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Solar Sailor said:
Sasuke was at his objectively worst in the 5 Kage Summit—acted like a fucking idiot and had to get bailed out literally THREE times

Maybe also the Deidara situation where he got bailed out by shitty writing
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I can't think of anyone notable that didn't suck in the 5 kage summit. Naruto's only point is telling Sakura off for her bitch move which honestly should have soured their relationship afterwards. Maybe not straight up hatred but the simpery and calling her Sakura-chan ends after that. It would tell you that Naruto is acting somewhat cold to her, you can rebuild their friendship to a degree later and it would sell him being with Hinata more at the end.


The only other good thing was Sai telling shit how it is and being based but he's been doing that in shit tier arcs since his debut. Looking back I almost kinda like him:bookerpls .
 
Like ok.

Tsunade Retrieval Arc:
Sasuke attacks Itachi even thoughhe knows he’s not even stronger than Kakashi and Itachi killed the entire Uchiha Clan by himself. It’s fucking stupid but he’s a 13 year old kid that’s blinded by rage. Logically stupid but emotionally understandable.

Sasuke Retrieval Arc:
Leaves because he thinks Orochimaru would make him stronger than Itachi. Didn’t actually do any of that though, in hindsight—even after betraying Orochimaru and absorbing some of his essence iirc Itachi was severely weakened cuz anime disease. Either way, characters like Minato, Hiruzen, and Gai all reached Itachi’s level and beyond just through hard work without anyone offering them shortcuts to get stronger.

Five Kage Summit:
Literally tries to fight ALL FIVE KAGE. Like idiot. So called genius couldn’t even assuage his hateboner for Konoha to think of an actual plan to assasinate Danzo properly. Raikage about killed him? Saved by Gaara. Mizukage about to kill him? Saved by Zetsu. Tsuchikage about to kill him? Saved by Obito

Final War:

His entire motivation makes no god damned sense. Literally.
 
Solar Sailor said:
Like ok.

Tsunade Retrieval Arc:
Sasuke attacks Itachi even thoughhe knows he’s not even stronger than Kakashi and Itachi killed the entire Uchiha Clan by himself. It’s fucking stupid but he’s a 13 year old kid that’s blinded by rage. Logically stupid but emotionally understandable.

Sasuke Retrieval Arc:
Leaves because he thinks Orochimaru would make him stronger than Itachi. Didn’t actually do any of that though, in hindsight—even after betraying Orochimaru and absorbing some of his essence iirc Itachi was severely weakened cuz anime disease. Either way, characters like Minato, Hiruzen, and Gai all reached Itachi’s level and beyond just through hard work without anyone offering them shortcuts to get stronger.

Five Kage Summit:
Literally tries to fight ALL FIVE KAGE. Like idiot. So called genius couldn’t even assuage his hateboner for Konoha to think of an actual plan to assasinate Danzo properly. Raikage about killed him? Saved by Gaara. Mizukage about to kill him? Saved by Zetsu. Tsuchikage about to kill him? Saved by Obito

Final War:

His entire motivation makes no god damned sense. Literally.
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It's like I stated before, Sasuke as a character makes no sense and gets worse and worse throughout the story.
Like as much as we clown on Renji, Renji still comes off actually being a character that fulfills his purpose unlike Sasuke who barely makes any sense after meeting Itachi.
 
Xhominid The Apex said:
It's like I stated before, Sasuke as a character makes no sense and gets worse and worse throughout the story.
Like as much as we clown on Renji, Renji still comes off actually being a character that fulfills his purpose unlike Sasuke who barely makes any sense after meeting Itachi.
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Sasuke deserves the hate because half the fanbase say he’s one of the greatest written characters in anime and better characters don’t get nearly as much love.

Those flaws always get forgotten for cheap bullshit
 
Solar Sailor said:
I always found Sai’s powers to be kinda boring like I think the drawings are cool but there are way better ways of making it pragmatic to fight
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Oh Sai as a character and his powers are boring as shit. Or at least they're boring and non practical in how Kishi uses it. I just mean him keeping it real when Naruto and Sakura act like babies :mjlol .
 
Solar Sailor said:
Sasuke deserves the hate because half the fanbase say he’s one of the greatest written characters in anime and better characters don’t get nearly as much love.

Those flaws always get forgotten for cheap bullshit
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Sasuke fanboys are honestly some of the most confusing people I have ever seen.
I legit cannot understand why they would ever like a waffle like him.
 
Adamant soul said:
And even that has some iffy elements with Atem kind of being tricked into willingly using the Seal of Orichalcos and just not giving a shit about his cards afterwards which set him up to lose.

Yeah basically the SECOND he gets Neos and the Neo Spacians, that's when Judai really hits peak YGO protagonist levels in terms of dueling and not taking Ls anymore. :maybe

Same kind of applies to Yuma with him legit not being very good early on and actually losing a lot. It's arguably better done with Yuma, at least from a dueling standpoint in that you see him progress over the course of the whole series, from dumbass novice to god tier duelist.
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Jaden at his most shenanigans was during the 3 way paradox fight where he hard carried with the amount of traps he drew turn 1 that let him do nonsense.

No one else runs as many traps as jaden does its fucking insane
 
Vespa Crabro said:
you forgot all the disgusting plays he made with Super Poly too

so disgusting he traumatized himself :mjlol
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Imma be honest Jaden had to go through so much fucking shit

If he had any of the backup some of the other protags had maybe he wouldnt have been so traumatized. He needed him a Jack Atlas or a Kaiba, instead he got fucking Syrus and fucking Hasselberry
 
I do also like how Nightshroud just hints at 4 different eras of yugioh in his final duel with jaden

nigga talked about 5ds, Zexal, Arc-V and Vrains
its funny
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Solar Sailor said:
Like ok.

Tsunade Retrieval Arc:
Sasuke attacks Itachi even thoughhe knows he’s not even stronger than Kakashi and Itachi killed the entire Uchiha Clan by himself. It’s fucking stupid but he’s a 13 year old kid that’s blinded by rage. Logically stupid but emotionally understandable.

Sasuke Retrieval Arc:
Leaves because he thinks Orochimaru would make him stronger than Itachi. Didn’t actually do any of that though, in hindsight—even after betraying Orochimaru and absorbing some of his essence iirc Itachi was severely weakened cuz anime disease. Either way, characters like Minato, Hiruzen, and Gai all reached Itachi’s level and beyond just through hard work without anyone offering them shortcuts to get stronger.

Five Kage Summit:
Literally tries to fight ALL FIVE KAGE. Like idiot. So called genius couldn’t even assuage his hateboner for Konoha to think of an actual plan to assasinate Danzo properly. Raikage about killed him? Saved by Gaara. Mizukage about to kill him? Saved by Zetsu. Tsuchikage about to kill him? Saved by Obito

Final War:

His entire motivation makes no god damned sense. Literally.
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Tbf I don't really care that Sasuke was looking for a shortcut to gain power. Not that it fits the whole hard work thing Kishi kept trying to spout out though :bookerpls . Its funny how it didn't help him come close to truly beating Itachi though.


Aside from that I agree. Sasuke's main problem to me is inconsistency. One moment in the Sasuke retrieval arc we get told that Sasuke considered Naruto his best friend and it pains him to fight him and the next the dudes at max salt lvls impaling him through the lung with a smile on his face.

One minute Naruto and Sakura are getting pissed at Sai for being right when he says that Sasuke is a traitorous snake and how he's glad they don't think he compares to him and Sasuke starts off his second debut trying to kill Naruto.

One minute he cares about only killing the elders. Oh wait did I say the elders I mean the village because you see in the end of the Itachi stuff and Killer B shit it's revealed that he was lying to the rest of his team for no reason and wants genocide.


Then the next time the dude wants to change the world as a different type of Hokage and give world peace when he has never shown that he cares about how the overall world is affected by anything.

The dudes a mess of a character :mjlol.
 
TrueG 37 said:
Tbf I don't really care that Sasuke was looking for a shortcut to gain power. Not that it fits the whole hard work thing Kishi kept trying to spout out though :bookerpls . Its funny how it didn't help him come close to truly beating Itachi though.


Aside from that I agree. Sasuke's main problem to me is inconsistency. One moment in the Sasuke retrieval arc we get told that Sasuke considered Naruto his best friend and it pains him to fight him and the next the dudes at max salt lvls impaling him through the lung with a smile on his face.

One minute Naruto and Sakura are getting pissed at Sai for being right when he says that Sasuke is a traitorous snake and how he's glad they don't think he compares to him and Sasuke starts off his second debut trying to kill Naruto.

One minute he cares about only killing the elders. Oh wait did I say the elders I mean the village because you see in the end of the Itachi stuff and Killer B shit it's revealed that he was lying to the rest of his team for no reason and wants genocide.


Then the next time the dude wants to change the world as a different type of Hokage and give world peace when he has never shown that he cares about how the overall world is affected by anything.

The dudes a mess of a character :mjlol.
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That's hilariously scratching the surface of how bad Sasuke is because even his fights after awhile just become the same shit.
The instant he unlocks the Mangekyou, all of his fights basically lose all of the actual strategy they had(And I'll be fair here, they was still full of massive asspulls like Deidara and Itachi) and is nothing but spamming Mangekyou techniques and little else.
Even his basic ass moves tend to basically just be various combos of Chidori, Amaterasu, Kagutsuchi and Susann'O with no real variation or difference like Kishimoto turned into Kubo Tite.

And that's before you go with the blatant author favoritism where Sasuke basically gets a slap on the wrist(the Anime had to add he went to prison for a few months) and got a pardon and it's only on SASUKE to actually pay a price for what he's done... which ultimately didn't mean shit either as he barely fucking helped or uncovered shit and just stayed away from his wife and daughter who barely even give him any grief but kiss his ass(When INO has a bigger issue with Sasuke being away for years and years than his wife and daughter, that's a fucking problem).
Like the entire concept of Sasuke is a fucking trainwreck in action and it's honestly surprising people are his fans at all for such an absolute travesty of a character.
 
TrueG 37 said:
Tbf I don't really care that Sasuke was looking for a shortcut to gain power. Not that it fits the whole hard work thing Kishi kept trying to spout out though :bookerpls . Its funny how it didn't help him come close to truly beating Itachi though.


Aside from that I agree. Sasuke's main problem to me is inconsistency. One moment in the Sasuke retrieval arc we get told that Sasuke considered Naruto his best friend and it pains him to fight him and the next the dudes at max salt lvls impaling him through the lung with a smile on his face.

One minute Naruto and Sakura are getting pissed at Sai for being right when he says that Sasuke is a traitorous snake and how he's glad they don't think he compares to him and Sasuke starts off his second debut trying to kill Naruto.

One minute he cares about only killing the elders. Oh wait did I say the elders I mean the village because you see in the end of the Itachi stuff and Killer B shit it's revealed that he was lying to the rest of his team for no reason and wants genocide.


Then the next time the dude wants to change the world as a different type of Hokage and give world peace when he has never shown that he cares about how the overall world is affected by anything.

The dudes a mess of a character :mjlol.
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Yeah his characterization makes no fucking sense

Instead of A to B his line of thought is A to Q to K

Like, brother kills family? Coherced by Village Elders? Kill random Samurai in the Land of Iron and Innocent Children from The Leaf Village because my abusive retard brother was convinced by a senile old serial killer.
 


  • Schutzstaffel vs Squad Zero fight concludes in ep 25 and Ichibe'e vs Yhwach begins near the end of the ep
  • Eps 24 and 25 will have new added lines and scenes
  • The Schutzstaffel will get new scenes and explanations
  • Leaker implies that Uryuu will participate in Squad Zero vs Schutzstaffel battle (This is where his line at the end of the PV comes from, "I am Ishida Uryuu. On my pride as a Quincy, I shall eliminate you.")
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So Squad Zero will get 2 episodes to flex instead of just one? And Uryu will join the fight against Squad Zero? I will genuinely be surprised if that's true.

  • Episode 25 and 26 will air on the same night back-to-back
  • Ep 26 covers the whole fight of Ichibe'e vs Yhwach
  • Episode 26 has amazing staff
  • The fight is extended and Ichibe'e and Yhwach will both use new techniques
  • The characters are more cold and emotionless in the anime compared to the manga
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Huh? When was Ichibei and Yhwach more emotional in the Manga in their fight? You mean Yhwach being surprised a few times by Ichibei's stuff?
Otherwise, the fight is pretty damn short in the manga for it's supposed impact so I can see them extending moreso than every other fight in the Cour due to it.

  • New Rei-ou scene
  • Ep 26 ends with Rei-ou's death
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Nevermind, seems like it won't be a full episode fight and instead ends on the immediate cliffhanger?

There will be a break in production after cour 2 ends
Aizen will have a "considerable" amount of new lines and scenes in cour 3, but not as much as Ukitake
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So does that mean Ukitake will get some actual focus in the 3rd Cour? I mean it makes sense to do so but considering where the 3rd Cour starts at, it's not much at all for him to get anything done unless Kubo stretches out how bad shit gets.


These leaks do seem to be legit as the same leaker brought in pics from the next episode incoming and it does sound legit on some level as well so... yeah.
 
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