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OBD Convo #43: Merry Christmas, You Filthy Animals

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Masterblack06

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I don't even know who "the Hood" is.
Poor Johhny Blaze.
He's some random villain
 

shade0180

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NGL this is probably the real exodus for them.

Modern Artist have found ways to utilized A.I art now, the real ones because A.I art can actually be made better with actual artist.

But Voice actors probably wouldn't have that option as they have no way to input their voice with AI voices unless they can actually Act better than A.I.

:eksip This is also a big thing because some company are now buying vtuber voice rights to turn into A.I. voices.
 

Adamant soul

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People forgetting that Sakura is hated for VERY VALID REASONS. :smh
Yeah but that's because Sakura is one of the most hated characters in Shounen history. (Even though Hinata and TenTen are far worse characters lol)
No they're actually not, they're not even fucking close to as bad as Sakura. :kobeha
Sakura is more hated because she has 90x as much screentime as the other two.
If Sakura had as much screentime as Hinata or Tenten she wouldn't nearly be as hated.
Screen-time has fuck all to do with it, Sakura is just a piece of shit character.

Call me when either of them lies about loving someone to try and emotionally manipulate them or just in general treat someone like absolute garbage for half the series for no reason, or continues to romantically pursue someone after they have tried to kill her several times.

It's nothing to do with the amount of screen-time and everything to do with what she actually did with it, Sakura could have just as little screen-time and would still be far more hated on account of them, you know, never actually doing anything worth being hated for.
 

LeonLex

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It's about screen time, not about Sakura being a bitch to Naruto then doing an 180 every time Sasuke looked at her.
Or her tranquilizing her fellow teammates just to go after Sasuke.
Or her being a damsel in distress for most of the OG run.

Hinata jumped in front of Pain to help Nartuo, that's more than enough for her character.
 

Adamant soul

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Honestly I can see why Piccolo's winning this but I do think Kisuke was a better mentor (Piccolo's a better character though).

Imagine being SURPRISED that Korosensei is winning this, in a MENTOR competition. :heston

This man Aduro couldn't even be bothered to get a working image for Nyarla? The disrespect. :really
 

Adamant soul

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It's about screen time, not about Sakura being a bitch to Naruto then doing an 180 every time Sasuke looked at her.
Or her tranquilizing her fellow teammates just to go after Sasuke.
Or her being a damsel in distress for most of the OG run.

Hinata jumped in front of Pain to help Nartuo, that's more than enough for her character.
Hinata's only real issue as a character is that her arc of becoming more confident and a better ninja happens off-screen as is the case for most side characters in the series. I'm not sure how ANYONE can claim she's worse or even as bad as Sakura with a straight face.

Too much screen-time is really more Orihime's issue than Sakura's, specifically that it was all wasted on someone who ultimately doesn't do much of anything, and this in a series that actually does allow female characters to do shit occasionally.
 
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Ovid really was a proto-deconstructionist with how much of a serious hate boner he had for Greece and Athens above all made him write some of the most insidious hate fic against the Greek Gods.


It doesn't help that like with alot of tellings of Greek Myths and other religions, people either take Ovid as canon or primarily take pieces from Ovid to use for themselves(In the same fashion that Lilith's story tend to be used now even in Christian-like series despite her being from Judaism). It further gets muddied that even without Ovid, there IS a story that Medusa is Human from the Greek perspective... but she wasn't raped by Poseidon and actually invited him into Athena's Temple so they can do the nasty which got her and her sisters cursed.
There's also the fact that there is ANOTHER story in which Medusa and her sisters was just shits who basically danced and fucked around in Athena's Temple which also got them cursed.
 

shade0180

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People forgetting that Sakura is hated for VERY VALID REASONS. :smh

No they're actually not, they're not even fucking close to as bad as Sakura. :kobeha

Screen-time has fuck all to do with it, Sakura is just a piece of shit character.

Call me when either of them lies about loving someone to try and emotionally manipulate them or just in general treat someone like absolute garbage for half the series for no reason, or continues to romantically pursue someone after they have tried to kill her several times.

It's nothing to do with the amount of screen-time and everything to do with what she actually did with it, Sakura could have just as little screen-time and would still be far more hated on account of them, you know, never actually doing anything worth being hated for.
Sakura could have 3 screen time and she'll be hated for it.

Seriously her 3 major character arc is literally negatives for her.

- Bad Mouthing/Bonking Nardo Every time they see each other to the point Nardo Has Gag Reflex for it.

- That time when she literally blamed Nardo because they failed to get Sauce back when Nardo literally got stabbed to the chest by Chidori.

- Emotionally manipulating Nardo to continue pursuing Sauce after everything that happened.

:eksip
 
Sakura could have 3 screen time and she'll be hated for it.

Seriously her 3 major character arc is literally negatives for her.

- Bad Mouthing/Bonking Nardo Every time they see each other to the point Nardo Has Gag Reflex for it.

- That time when she literally blamed Nardo because they failed to get Sauce back when Nardo literally got stabbed to the chest by Chidori.

- Emotionally manipulating Nardo to continue pursuing Sauce after everything that happened.

:eksip

Like Sakura's hugest sins is the fact that Kishimoto not only had no idea of how to write female characters, but the fact he then didn't even try to make Sakura a compelling character at all even in comparison to his side characters who has far less screentime and less chances to matter to the plot.

Every single bit of Sakura's character hinges on Sasuke to an absolutely unreal degree for the screentime she has but nothing is done to really make her matter in the grand scheme of things and this is before we get to the fact that her negative qualities are far more frustrating to deal with than Naruto or Sasuke's precisely because of how little she ever learns from them punctuating with her MARRYING Sasuke and still ultimately living a miserable life, no matter how hard Kishi tries to dress it up.
 

shade0180

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So Murim Login at least the top level are actually Decent they never bothered with level below them or not around their level.

Only the middling are more chaotic. as they'd try to fight people weaker than them for intimidation.

and even then as a part of the Just martial path they know not to damage/involve civilians.

:eksip Only the thieves and evil sect or outlaw martial artist are actually doing the actual harm.
I'd say this is a more decent martial arts manwha.
 
Like I think what ultimately made me realize just how worthless of a character Sakura is... is actually not where you think it is but at the tail end of the series where Sakura pours her heart out to Sasuke to get him to stop his goals of being a "Shadow Ruler" and Sasuke just goes "Why the hell do you love me?" and it's KAKASHI that explains it and not Sakura herself.
Remember for all of the bullshit you can give to Orihime or Hinata or even Temari, we can see full well or given an explanation from the character why they love who they ultimately do. Hell, we even get that with Renji of all people when it came to him and Rukia tying the knot since like the Soul Society.

Yet we are never given a single solitary reason why Sakura loves Sasuke, not one. Right then and there did I realize that Sakura was fucking worthless, she could easily be replaced with an NPC and nothing would change, even for Boruto because that's how little of a fuck Kishimoto gave for her. Because atleast for her other moments, you can say that Sakura did other things to earn her keep and focus away from those problems... but this? You can't focus away from it because Sakura's entire character is linked to Sasuke(To the point that Kishimoto post-Naruto even states that Sakura deserves Sasuke for her character to matter paraphrasing) and yet we are never given a single goddamned reason why Sakura loves Sasuke, not ONE.
 
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