Game Ranked Grand Theft Auto Mafia

[Achromatic]

Actually let me do a brief detour...
@Luka

What is your read on Lethal?

Anyway reading through Luka's iso he seems to be operating with a similar POE as a lot of people. If this POE is wildly inaccurate we need to kind of panic, but if we believe the broad poe is fine then it's unusual for Luka to happily go along with a poe that's going to murder his buddies. It has RDK. it has Lethal (or it did for a bit), it has OLU as well. It's basically what a lot of people think is a nice narrowed down version of the game. Also includes Melkor.

So you have to kind of ask, is the POE completely broken in which case maybe Luka is being sneaky, but if you think that list of 4 has 2+ scum in it then he's probably just town because otherwise he'd be trying to disrupt the game more instead of nodding along. he protects partners pretty heavily as scum.

 

[Achromatic]

Also as for our personal interactions, I would expect scum Luka to be more vicious in cutting at me rather than just noting I am poe and waiting for me to get my shit together lol

 

[Dr. Watson]

Not sure, to be honest

I know that he changes up his scum game if certain things are pointed out to him and he notes it for the future

Like I caught him throwing his rainbow lists near the end of one game and found discrepancies because it came across as providing the reads just for the sake of providing them (he stopped doing this) and he was scrambling and updating it often

Magic pointed out his reads when he's scum tend to be on the mark (has yet to be proven) - meaning if he's self-aware enough, he'd probably make his POE awful and off the mark and probably maybe at most hide one mate of his

Biggest thing with Luka is him commonly switching up his play because he knows certain tells will get him caught almost immediately if people pick up on those teeny details so when he's scum he makes sure to be more cautious and do an entirely new thing

 

[Achromatic]

I don't really point things out to him though. For example, the game I am referencing I was scum godfather so I was just making stuff up. I had no real talk with him after about his play towards me.

 

[Dr. Watson]

Also as for our personal interactions, I would expect scum Luka to be more vicious in cutting at me rather than just noting I am poe and waiting for me to get my shit together lol

Which is what he's done to others, it seems

And that's really my point, if he knows you'll expect that from him as scum, he's going to try his best not to do it with the intention of pocketing

Basically he's more crafty than people give him credit for which is why him cockroaching is so effective but a major concern endgame

 

[Achromatic]

I don't think I am underestimating Luka. I lost to him in the finals of a 1v1 when I was town so I made it a personal mission to go through games for tells.

 

[Achromatic]

Basically, I dont think luka before I made it clear really knew the secret sauce behind his game. If he did, he'd fare better in turbos against me lol.

 

[Aurelian]

Ekko scum
Luka scum
RDK possibly scum
Hime ????

 

[Lethal]

@Dr. Watson where was Fang town scanned?

 

[Dr. Watson]

@Dr. Watson where was Fang town scanned?

I'm not married to this read and basing it off his play and current temperament
Super duper hella phoning in
So technically he could go either way, but I'm having a rough time reconciling his overall attitude as coming from a scum him

 

[Ultra]

Why are you voting me when I was defending your slot and said Fuji was obvious town?

Probably because he roleblocked you twice? Blatantly manipulative

 

[Ultra]

@Dr. Watson where was Fang town scanned?

Me, I scanned him vanilla

 

[Ultra]

unvote lord melkor

lord melkor isnt talking like a dead man walking tbh

might still vote there when its all said and done but

Nah I actually don't care at all for his responses

Him bleating on about Orca's vote and Fuji being town is in my estimation the kind of thing he does to try and show goodwill or solving or something

But it doesn't make any sense the lack of backlash he has here if he thinks he's the games equivalent of doctor and he's being lynched by someone contradicting his result. He has no punch.

 

[Ultra]

In my experience playing with Melkor he's not afraid to wrestle in the mud and he's not afraid to start challenging players who are established presences in the game if he sees them doing something totally idiotic.

Him suddenly handing out a bunch of free town reads here seems more like appeasement. He's not throwing hands

 

[Ultra]

Joke's on you I have him as scum now.

Hilarious

 

[Achromatic]

Nah I actually don't care at all for his responses

Him bleating on about Orca's vote and Fuji being town is in my estimation the kind of thing he does to try and show goodwill or solving or something

But it doesn't make any sense the lack of backlash he has here if he thinks he's the games equivalent of doctor and he's being lynched by someone contradicting his result. He has no punch.

Oh OK. Death to melkor

vote lynch melkor

 

[Ultra]

I actually agree that RDK is scum if you are town. No way town has 4 invests roles + IC.

vote Lynch RDK

Like why are you just suddenly assuming he's town, this is blatant self pres

 

[Lord Melkor]

Hm, damn this fits with your world view about yourself earlier. Would you mind giving a comprehensive list of your reads ranked? Just so I can get a sense of where your head is at.

Magic, Ultra, Aurelian, Watson confirmed by mechanics as not mafia.

Fuji i am sure was town based on his emotional posts and reaction day 2, so Nibel is town then as well.

Emil still leaning scum but if he is not than RDK should be lock scum.

Town leans on you and Luka.

Remaining POE is OLU, Hime, Lethal, Orca then and one of Emil/RDK for sure.

 

[Lord Melkor]

Like why are you just suddenly assuming he's town, this is blatant self pres

Why I should not self preserve a bit as town?

Or do you do not agree there is at least one scum for sure between Emil and RDK? Or do you think town has Innocent Child and 4 investigative roles here?

 

[Lord Melkor]

In my experience playing with Melkor he's not afraid to wrestle in the mud and he's not afraid to start challenging players who are established presences in the game if he sees them doing something totally idiotic.

Him suddenly handing out a bunch of free town reads here seems more like appeasement. He's not throwing hands

I think I should not have town reads?!

It seems nothing at this point would change your mind.