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Alice (ToAru) & Spacebattles vs Fate verse

Irradiance

Slightly Above Average
They warned never to give Alice internet access and Fate is about to figure out why.

Alice and the Spacebattles user base get 1 hour of prep. How far can they make it?

To explain Alice's power: She can make any theory into reality, regardless of how farfetched it is. It's basically the ability to turn headcanons real.
The voice behind him remained entirely innocent. She hopped around in front of him.

That girl there had done all this.

She could end the current world with a snap of her fingers.

“It doesn’t matter if your real-world theories have broken down. Even if there is no direct connection between two ideas, a bridge can always be built if the girl goes on an adventure and creates a new path.”

“A bridge?”

“Hmm, like this: ‘There are four emotions and four elements, so when roleplaying, you can draw on a special power by intentionally drawing on a specific emotion in yourself.’ ”

People would normally call that “a stretch” or “sophistry”. It might sound reasonable at first, but there was no existing mythology or law behind it. In this case, the idea of the four emotions was an Eastern thing and the idea of the four elements was a Western thing commonly seen in fantasy RPGs.

But if you could build a bridge between the two and it would give you power with 100% reliability, you would have a legitimate miracle on your hands.

It reminded him a bit of the way the Amakusas combined Shinto, Buddhism, and Christianity, but this was completely different. Alice didn’t need to find points in common between the two things to form a logical connection. She could notice that a paint set on sale had 12 colors, associate that with the 12 numbers on a clock, and with nothing more than that gain a complete control over time. Except it wouldn’t just apply to Alice herself. The moment she decided that was true, all the paint in the world would gain the same power.

“Burning something requires phlogiston, observing one of a pair of separated particles determines the spin of the other one no matter the distance between them, neutrinos can travel faster than light. It might sound ridiculous, but if the girl links together the surrounding theories to build up a solid basis and makes it convincing enough, she can create an actual functioning theory. Even if the idea she started with was flawed and even if the values she started with came from faulty measurements.”

“You mean…?”

“It works even if the theory is how to resurrect the dead. After all, magic is meant to give people joyous hopes and fun dreams.

By forcibly connecting entirely separate theories, she had created a single path to this destination.

Even if she hadn’t created anything herself and was journeying around by peering into someone else’s mind.

If he had continued traveling through that comfortable world without questioning it, all of the pieces would have intertwined and become real.

Like a board game where surrounding your opponent’s pieces captured all of those pieces for yourself.

Kamijou noticed a straining sound.

It came from within Alice.

Specifically, from her blue storybook dress with a white apron over it. It tore in a way such solid fabric never should have. The entire center of her body tore to either side like it was a thin stocking.

The ripping noise sounded somehow suggestive.

“Now.”

Immorally bright skin emerged from within.

The transformation was like a childish mint candy becoming a sticky honey dripping onto the skin.

The thing contained in the storybook dress came into view. Metal buckles shined and red and black belts glistened with oil while digging into a slender body.

Alice spread her arms wide without showing any concern for the empty shell left behind.

“Please guide the girl, teacher. She wants to go on an adventure inside you. You weren’t satisfied with this ending? Then what kind of ending would you accept? Just tell the girl and she will join the theories together, fill in the gaps, establish the necessary facts, and give you the world you want.”
 
Reading the wiki it seems she can terraform or create planets with traces of life dozens of light years away. https://toarumajutsunoindex.fandom.com/wiki/Alice_Anotherbible#Background

But can she use this power wily-nily or does she have to go on an adventure to use it?

Knowing what I know about Fate and reading the wiki, I guess some Magus traps her within a pocket dimension or mind controls her.
Nah, she can't create planets. That's just how far she could throw her pot.
“The general public is apparently abuzz with talk about water and traces of life being discovered on a planet dozens of lightyears away, but how do you think that got there? That girl got upset and started throwing her ceramic pot, teacakes, and whatnot. Reality is a fickle thing,” said Aradia like all of this was perfectly reasonable.
Her power still is large enough to affect the entire world, though.
Alice would go on adventures where she linked together laws and definitions to find new meaning there while she innocently used her Live Adventures in Wonderland that affected the entire world, so all of their efforts here were a small price to pay if it let them work that girl into their own plans.
And no, she doesn't have to go on an adventure before her powers work. Her power work during the adventure and whatever Alice decides to do is the adventure, basically. So she can use them absolutely willy-nilly.
 
Well, I’m not that knowledgeable about fate. But it seems that she could really fuck things up unless she’s taken out early. @Xhominid The Fool what’s your thoughts?

Edit: Also how many things did she throw at that planet to make it seem like it held traces of life?
 
Goetia erases her from existence for trying to screw up his plans, that or Tiamat does by just laughing off everything she does.
Creating Textures is something anyone who has "Primacy"(i.e. The Top Dog) can do just by existing.
Hell, I could honestly go further with that but I'm being a REAL lazy ass right now.

EDIT: Basically Counter-Force sees her as a threat and sicks Counter Agents on her no matter what she does the second she enters the verse.
 
Actually now that I’m reading the OP again, the hell is SB gonna do?
The joke is that Alice has the ability to turn every theory into reality, no matter how wrong and stupid it is.
So she can make Spacebattles Fate downplay real :maybe
Jokes just get funnier by explaining them, right?

Creating Textures is something anyone who has "Primacy"(i.e. The Top Dog) can do just by existing.
Didn't know graphic designers were high tier in Fate.
Seriously, though, WTF are textures supposed to be.
 
The joke is that Alice has the ability to turn every theory into reality, no matter how wrong and stupid it is.
So she can make Spacebattles Fate downplay real

Considering SB doesn't even understand the concepts of Fate, they would still fuck alot of that up in the process.
:hestonpls

Didn't know graphic designers were high tier in Fate.
Seriously, though, WTF are textures supposed to be.

To get it out of the way because I'm a lazy fucker that doesn't like consistently explaining shit:
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And no, it's not hyperbole or something ignorable:
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A Texture is basically Reality itself that overlays on the Planet and capable of spreading out further the more those at the Seat of Primacy(again those who basically rule the Planet they are on). This can include the Afterlife, Underworld and even other various parts of mythologies:
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So that's basically the crash course of things because I'm tired and I'm not 100% in this atm lol.
 
So Textures are basically Phases in Index but limited to a single planet.

As for Alice, no comment since I’ve yet to get to this point of Index GT
 
Not really, iirc Zeus was gonna escape the culling of his lostbelt by escaping the solar system. Plus Textures can contain planet sized lands like the reverse side or other realms.

So they're not limited to the planet.
Doesn’t the Reverse side count as it’s own Texture? I’m not disputing textures being planet sized themselves
 
Ok, so basically just like phases. Not sure how that relates to Alice or this thread then ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
Ok, so basically just like phases. Not sure how that relates to Alice or this thread then ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I'm saying it does because with SB telling her how the Nasuverse is, she's going to inevitably get things wrong because they barely know the base mechanics of the Nasuverse keeping plenty of important things around.
That or Goetia just basically kills her by basically pulling off his plan immediately.
Can't exist when all of Human History is destroyed and there's nothing to stick around in.

And it doesn't seem she's all that physically powerful either until she begins to think so how fast can she react and things actually happen?

Servants are now FTL thanks to Lostbelt 5.1 proving that any aid they gotten from nanomachines isn't relevant to the feat in 5.2 which is LS or FTL and we know in Shinjuku Servants can operate in Microsecond reaction times. So there's nothing stopping a Grand or even a Regular Servant from blitzing her before she can finish her thought.
 
If you are talking about seeing Photons, I honestly don't agree with using that in the slightest.
And even then, we have seen in a few cases The Counter Force can and does send Agents before the action actually takes place like with Aoko trying to utilize Blue or in the many time periods EMIYA was dropped in was due to the potential actions people would have caused he needed to kill meaning that the prep means nothing if she drops in and dozens of CA is immediately on her ass step one.
 
I'm saying it does because with SB telling her how the Nasuverse is, she's going to inevitably get things wrong because they barely know the base mechanics of the Nasuverse keeping plenty of important things around.
I don't think that's a problem though? Like that's actually beneficial she can fuck nasuverse mechanics even more now.
 
I'm saying it does because with SB telling her how the Nasuverse is, she's going to inevitably get things wrong because they barely know the base mechanics of the Nasuverse keeping plenty of important things around.
Getting things wrong is the point, though. Her power specifically makes wrong baseless theories and misunderstandings into realities. So them being completely wrong about that stuff is ideal. Her power to make it actually work the way they think despite being wrong.

And it doesn't seem she's all that physically powerful either until she begins to think so how fast can she react and things actually happen?

Servants are now FTL thanks to Lostbelt 5.1 proving that any aid they gotten from nanomachines isn't relevant to the feat in 5.2 which is LS or FTL and we know in Shinjuku Servants can operate in Microsecond reaction times. So there's nothing stopping a Grand or even a Regular Servant from blitzing her before she can finish her thought.
She got prep time so she can get her powers started.

@Irradiance Does Alice scale at all to Saint tier or higher characters? More than fast enough to keep up with Servants
She barely has stat feats. She showed some super durability, but nothing besides that.

As it stands you can scale her to nothing. It's directly said that her OPness isn't mainly a matter of stats, after all.
 
Getting things wrong is the point, though. Her power specifically makes wrong theories into realities. So them being completely wrong about that stuff would fuel her power to make it actually work the way they think.

I think you are missing the point. The thing is that SB will miss things about the Nasuverse which will be safe from her ability in the first place. It's not that they just downplay, they legit can barely understand things.

She got prep time so she can get her powers started.

She's not in the universe first before that happened and that's the difference.

I don't think that's a problem though? Like that's actually beneficial she can fuck nasuverse mechanics even more now.

Look at the above.
 
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