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Game Official Ranked Xmas Mafia 2024 - Where Worlds Collide

Crazy. I typed that up in 2 minutes.
Lies No GIF
 

This one in particular pegged me heavy...

What makes them scummy to you?

I would ideally get both of your claims. But GTH I'd say I'm seeing it more likely Magic is town. His claim wouldn't hurt though. And neither would yours.

I'm more nudged with your response here in the direction you are either an indie or some kind of third-party alignment. But I'll be way more clear: why should I have you as town vs the possibility of you being an indie or mafia?

Why wouldn't it? If you have correct reads and aren't among players that have mislynched townies, and are positionalyl safe from being mislynched, and given your typical strong position in most games, usually you'd be an early target. Poyser and Ultra typically get killed night 1 or 2 when their town and solving, at least in Ultra's case in this game we have a reason for him being around still. And I mean the case for Poyser being offed is also there.

Magic? Sure.

You can argue he's also another player that should've been the focus of scum getting rid of and not letting him linger around.

As I said before several strong and vocal town players have been killed since the start of the game:

  • Craig
  • Poyser
  • Ekko
  • Prof
  • RDK

So I'm not sure what your saying or why you think it contradicts my suspicion. Scum can play with TMI, so too can a hostile indie or third-party alignment that isn't town or mafia. Why would those five be dead but the you aren't? Alexis was instructed to protect Ultra, was he not, the last day phase? Why would, in the situation you are town, be left alive to case and solve players in PoE if your town? Mafia would know pushing your lynch would be hard, so why not kill you?

My premise isn't "you aren't town cleared" to suspect you, my direction is that its odd you have no reliable reason for being alive in face of fact that you had no idea protecting you and simply letting you linger around?

Why wouldn't Flower kill you if your town? Example if she is already in most peoples PoE lists, wouldn't her helping get rid of you even if it puts more pressure on her slot or she gets lynched be worth it for her team?

I'm not going to compromise on who I town read vs who I don't.
This is a 30 player game.
And potentially a multi-ball set up.

I challenge you to give me any logical reason why I should be able to narrow the PoE down and read Alco, Rugrat, Brutus, Jigsaw, etc...as town for ??? reasons other than shrinking list of suspects and going blind from there.

You want more, then fine:

  • T-Pein doesn't bus his teammates.
  • Alco doesn't have any real presence since after day 1
  • Evans is dead
  • Rugrat has warranted what to not remove him from PoE?
  • Flower is outed as a hostile
  • Kiku is confirmed as non-town/hostile

Sure I'd feel comfortable nudging Magic and Lethal more solidly into town.

What else is there? Do you think I need to take a blind leap of faith from your words alone to broadly expand my town reads?

It's a lot of effort when it was just Ratchet going after him.

I suspect you less than Lappland and you're more engaged than Tweet. Youd be, like, fourth or fifth in the order, and I'm not of the mind that we need to extract 5 claims today. Actually I think there is a reasonable chance that you're town.

But then after this post, Aurelian goes quiet... Not a top PoE candidate so why go further? My question is, if he's scum why would he kill Ratchet here? If anything, keeping him alive would help him as scum.
 
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