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For the sake of town having correct info - I'm a roleblocker. I targeted Nutmeg N1, since I thought they were acting scummy and wanted to avoid targeting another PR, and you last night. So Melkor could have been RBd by another RBer.

By all means, use your ability on me tonight. Granted, I won't get to enjoy your reaction to me flipping town until scumchat opens.

I scumread Ali before he claimed anything, and the tunnelling on me today has only strengthened that read IMO.

I'm not calling for his elimination, I'm saying I've found him scummy. I did vote him on D2, but haven't done so since he claimed (which was literally today).

I:

a) read Ali as scummy

b) think that, as a claimed cop, he is now likely self-resolving, and shouldn't be lynched unless scum mysteriously avoid targeting him.

This is atrocious, but also kinda feels like double speak when I call him out for it, definitely was implying Ali was scum until I made him clarify he's "self resolving"

Can't say there's much to lose if he flips town either
 
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Finally caught up, apologies for liking and not posting, kinda a new bad habit.

Is this a serious question lol? Melkor didn't visit anyone, not the other way around
Then how is he dead?

Why can't there be two roleblocks at play? Both from Town and Mafia?
Stargate already claimed Rb, Cata calimed Rolecrusher ... who do you think is mafia?
also, @Stargate18 isn't it kinda weird you haven't sused cata for claiming a similar yet "somewhat more scummy" role as you? instead you RBed nutmeg N1 and me N2 ... why not thinking cata when he was already POE since D1?

Indeed. Sort of polarizes SGs slot further, like I guessed, too. Makes the claim sorta insane, too. Feel good about that.
He is 75/25 scum ... his scummniess comes from his somewhat questionable RB targets + His overall laziness and his instant claim after I claimed, he also seems to be tunneling which is not a towny feat.

Really don't think this is the play here, honestly. It's a mason claim where at least one player has claimed that its a confirmed alignment, firing here feels like a very bad idea. (Masons are self-resolving anyway, since mafia will not want them to make it to F3 under any circumstances.)

If Reloaded is widely scumread, just take him out today so we don't waste time making a ton of hypotheticals about partners and have it all be worth fuck all if he flips town.
See this looks bad, even I gave the possibility that Ultra or Lapp cases on each other might be right (even thought ultra can be scum since his predecessor LC gave me scummy vibes) but my guy stargate straight says it's bad to bad idea to fire at a mason when we can take out Relo, even tho the whole relo situation hasn't been resolved yet.

Ali seems to be catching up

@Ali when you are done reading, tell me what your take is
Yeah here are my thoughts so far

In the LAPP vs ULTRA situation, I go with Lapp, Every things lapp said checks out in some way, the possiblity of him scum coaching Nibel is honestly far-fetched and I wouldn't be mad losing to that sort of masterplan tbh hahaha .... as for ULTRA... his predecessor gave me scummy vibes due to laziness and inactivity (although LC said his inactivity is irrelevant) and Now ultra seems to be dead bent on proving his "sky's the limit" Lapp is scum theory, which doesn't ring well considering we have the entire Relo/Stargate/Cata situation still going on, I haven't played with ultra before, he might just be this hot-headed with his reads tho.

I somewhat believe York's (Goddessblade) claim.

Sigi is town since D1 incident with Yoho.

I can give Gad (Sharter) the benefit of the doubt, given that he does use his ability at some point.

Atso slot has been a hinderance to me but thanks to the mason claims I can finally put it to rest.

Reloaded is 75/25 scum ... I find his RB claim hard to believe, Knowing I was RBed myself and stargate admitting it, I will have to ISO his posts to see if he had any kind of interaction with SG ... I think RELO and SG are both scum.

SG is mentioned above.

The Cata situation is the one bugging me the most, If reloaded flips town then my POE is Cata for sure

Scum list
Reloaded
Stargate
Cata 50/50
 
Thoughts on Cata

Similar to Hayumi, I think scum roles were given fake role including a SINGLE ABILITY from their Scum role.
I think Cata's Rolecrusher ability is a single ability from his original "Scum RB" abilities.

Add to that his weird posts D1 that were highlighted by Lapp and Relo, plus his overall negligence regarding that (I didn't know there was a SK around) and (I used my 1 shot role crushing ability as a glass cannon to vanilize Gad) then proceeds to Sus Gad still D2 even tho two kills already passed.

Here are some interesting quotes, I will comment on what I find need clarification.
So, I stand corrected. Sharter could still be scum. Seems we have another serial killer or cult leader.

So far;

Confirmed:
Luka - Town
Flower - Town
Alexis - Town
Yoho - Scum


Reads:
Sharter - Scum leaning
Nutmeg - Town
Lappland - Null
GoddessBlade - Null
Ratchet - Null

Need to go back through and read more replies.
He is dead bent on Gad once again, even after claiming on RC him N1 and two townies got killed that same night (he litterally said that by blocking Gad, he thought he would block a maf kill, but he then claims to have been Rbed or something went wrong ?? lol when asked by gad on what was the thought process, he said his iconic, I didn't think there was a 3rd party involved since the census appeared D2) .... WTF?

Kind of want to put pressure on Sharter. He was one of the bigger supporters of me as a scum lean.
Again, a cata flip would 100% clear sharter.

Would you rather I vote you?
Answering me after I asked him why sus sharter and not me although I sused him too D1 ... seems like he wanted to bus sharter and thought I would be a LHF to lynch sometime in the future.

Thoughts on Sharter and Ali?
this asking SG. Since SG was the only one with a vote either on me or sharter during the entirety of D2 ... check Day 2 VC w/ threadmarks.

Sharter claiming to have no knowledge of D1 is odd, given he was pretty active for a good chunk of it, and seemed pretty aware of what was going on. (Also, the strong defense of Alexis might be TMI, trying to claim towncred, but I'm less sure about that.)

Ali seems very suspicious, honestly. I already mentions my issues with their early posts, but the strong certainty that Yoho is scum definitely feels like it could be bussing - especially since he doesn't elaborate on why Yoho seems scummy, just says that he "feels scummy".

So who would you lean more worth the lynch day two?

Probably Ali, they seem scummier overall. Wouldn't be against a Sharter lynch if that was the majority though.

Why him over Hayumi?
Relo asking Cata about his vote lynch decision ....

So you’re saying I was bussing someone with no case on whatsoever?
1st off Yoho fluff was off the charts, he added no value whatsoever and whenever he was asked directly he either gave non condemning non beneficial answers or gave really weird answers like the (what other scum traits of mine?) replaying to flower, ALSO, guess what, he flipped scum, if it was the other way around then I would understand your point but D1 is all about gut feeling and hunches and mine helped us get scum lynched so why so keen on finding that sus?

Because I didn’t like the push against me for voting Alexis D1
Replying to relo earlier question ...

@Stargate18 what do you think about cata so far?

Okay, while that reasoning for sussing Yoho makes more sense, the second half of this post is literally "My gut feeling got scum lynched, so I'm towny", which is exactly what scum would say after bussing their scummate lol.

They feel towny - they gave a clear readslist, have been playing well so far, and the OMGUSy read on Sharter comes off as genuine, considering the circumstances of the push.

Readslist before I go sleep. See you all tomorrow.

Stargate18
Ratchet
Lappland
Cataclysm
Mr. Reloaded
Tinky winky

Lord Melkor
Sigismund
Atsumori
GoddessBlade
Nutmeg

Hayumi
Sharter Holmes
Ali

You shouldn't have been able to do anything last night without me being redirected or blocked. Yet two people still died and there's three scum and a cult or serial killer.

I was rolling the dice and trying to see if scum killed. They did. Therefore, I was either blocked or wrong. Only had the one shot, so it was a glass cannon.

Rolecrusher.

I didn't know there was a scum faction when I did it. The census wasn't posted until D2.
 
CATA flip would clear Sharter/Relo/ + Stargate to some extent?
Sharter for reasons mentioned above.
Relo for obvious reasons
SG clear is 50/50 ... He could still be scum depending on what Cata abilities are.
 
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