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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 5: Diamonds are fleeting. Stupid lasts forever


IRL humanity does not have the tactical or strategic edge necessary to beat the wizarding world, nor do I recall any WOG statement that support your argument. But yes, Karna should be more than strong enough to defeat any HP wizard or witch that comes across his path. The question is whether he can find them all before they hole themselves in a pocket-dimension or in a property protected by the Fidelius charm.
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Karna wins every battle but loses the war, he cannot be fought by anything, but wizards have various means of tracking, hiding, and teleporting around the world that means once they go on the defensive he will never find every single one out of a million+. Nevermind hunting down every magical insect in the world and so on.
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I keep hearing this over and over, this insane cope in Spacebattles when it comes to Harry Potter and I STILL do not understand where the hell they get these takes from.

So I decided to look up the Fidelius Charm and what do you fucking know:
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Fidelius Charm

The Fidelius Charm (incantation unknown) was a very powerful spell used to hide things or places, or to conceal secrets. It was an extremely difficult, multifaceted, and potent charm that could be used to conceal a secret inside an individual's soul. The witch or wizard who housed the secret was...
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The Fidelius Charm (incantation unknown) was a very powerful spell used to hide things or places, or to conceal secrets. It was an extremely difficult, multifaceted, and potent charm that could be used to conceal a secret inside an individual's soul. The witch or wizard who housed the secret was known as the Secret Keeper.[1] A dwelling whose location had been protected by this spell was then invisible, intangible, unplottable, and soundproof.[3] This was an extremely old spell, one of the most ancient of all.[4]
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The Fidelius Charm was used to protect James, Lily, and Harry Potter from Lord Voldemort at their home in Godric's Hollow, the location of which was the secret entrusted.[1] They designated their Secret-Keeper as Sirius Black, but then switched to Peter Pettigrew at the last minute before the spell was cast as they thought it would be less obvious.

Lily and James had refused Albus Dumbledore's offer to be secret keeper due to them preferring their friends, which proved a deadly mistake — Pettigrew betrayed them to Lord Voldemort, who found and murdered the Potters, with only Harry Potter surviving the attack.[5] Harry's survival would henceforth dub him the "Boy Who Lived".
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The Fidelius Charm was once more employed to cloak the base of the Order of the Phoenix at 12 Grimmauld Place. However, in 1997 when Albus Dumbledore (primary Keeper) was killed, the members of the Order of the Phoenix automatically became Secret-Keepers for the HQ. This included Severus Snape, whose allegiance was doubtful at the time. As such, the Order was forced to change their headquarters to The Burrow.

This charm was used on Muriel's house (Arthur Weasley as Keeper) and Shell Cottage (Bill Weasley as Keeper) during the Second Wizarding War.
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So only THREE PEOPLE in canon used the Fidelius Charm and surprise, surprise, 3 of them are dead and the last one is unknown but somehow, every Wizard will be able to master this extremely difficult, complex and multifaceted spell... to save themselves from Karna... in a week.
A reminder that I'm virtually certain it took Harry the better part of a school year to actually use Patronus and Hermoine Granger like 2-3 years to be able to use Apparition without a Port Key but somehow, everyone can learn to use the most ridiculous spell ever... because reasons...

This isn't even getting into the typical NLF trap that SB always triggers because hilariously, extremely potent Bounded Fields exists and strong enough Heroic Spirits can... sense them and destroy them:
Servants vs the sort of Boundary Field Kayneth set up during the 4th Grail War.

“Then, the Einzbern homunculus and Miss Borzak are helpless?”
“Not at all,” Faldeus immediately contradicted his subordinate as if his earlier praise of the workshop had been a lie.
“It would be one thing if they’d gone in alone. With the Heroic Spirit Haruri summoned, however, it’s a different story. The workshop in Fuyuki I mentioned was destroyed along with the entire hotel, but if a Servant well-versed in magecraft had challenged the labyrinth, they would have broken through it sooner or later.”
Faldeus’ opinion on this matter was the opposite of what it had been ten years earlier. A modern labyinthized workshop was difficult to penetrate; even a Heroic Spirit would need to exploit a weak point or back door, he had thought. Now that he had accessed the data from the puppet his ancestor had left behind — the record of the third Fuyuki Holy Grail War — and had contact with the Heroic Spirit Hassan-I Sabbah, however, he was in no doubt. A maze of that level would not work on a powerful Heroic Spirit.
Although I doubt that weak Avenger in the record of the third Fuyuki war could do anything about it, Faldeus thought as he turned his attention to a monitor.
“In any case, if she summons her Servant to break out of the workshop, it will be a golden opportunity for us to observe its abilities.”
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Nor is this getting into... what are they talking about with millions of Wizards?! Where the fuck are they getting these numbers from as if there was millions, Grindelward's Rally should have had a fuckton more than the few we have seen or was the case in the 3rd Fantastic Beasts movie.
If there was millions and HP Wizards "can just defeat modern humanity", then why did J.K. Rowling and Fantastic Beasts 2 heavily disagree with that? They was sweating their asses off over World War 2 technology for fucks sake including Grindelward himself.
Not even the Harry Potter movies portrayed it as Wizards was beyond Humanity, let alone the Books. Like I get this is the typical Spacebattles nonsense but the constant bringing up the Fidelius Charm alongside lying again about how "Wizards can just loldominate humanity" finally got me to just see what it is.
 
Darth Zion said:
Also wouldn't Karna's MR allow him to just ignore wards in general?
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That and his armor also fucks with Magic and wands and even just having enough Magical Energy(which again is just a catch all term in general) can do the job.
Karna as well as any remotely powerful Heroic Spirit can just "lol" through anything an HP Wizard has because... Harry Potter Magic fucking sucks. It's why you have people go so "all or nothing" with it because it's practically impossible to really use it in a VS. sense outside of just dead ass lies.

EDIT: It's the same shit that gets me when they bring up Apparition/Teleportation like no one can catch them doing it when Dobbie's death in the final book was due to Bellatrix just throwing a knife at Harry and Co. and Dobbie getting hit by it. It wasn't even magically amped, the bitch just threw it and nailed someone mid-Apparate... but fucking KARNA can't intercept them?!
This is even funnier because again, they have also forgot that Wizards literally have limits to how far they can Apparate because they forgot that Voldemort was well out of England when Bellatrix warned him in that exact same scene and it took him AWHILE to get into range:

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Apparition

Apparition was a form of magical transportation, in which the user travelled instantly from one location to another, without traversing the space in-between. This was accomplished by having the user focus on a desired location in their mind and then purposely disappearing from where they were...
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When Harry, Ron and Hermione were trapped by the Death Eaters in Malfoy Manor, Bellatrix Lestrange alerted Voldemort, who was investigating Nurmengard Castle in the Austrian Alps. In order to get to Malfoy Manor, Voldemort had to fly most of the way. He had to fly over a "dark and stormy sea" to get within range of the manor.[3] As such, even an extremely powerful wizard like Voldemort couldn't Apparate much further than the length of England. As such, wizards apparently could not Apparate somewhere outside of range by imagining that location and Apparating small stretches at a time, as doing so would possibly cause splinching.[9]
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So it's like... why do they have to lie?
 
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Shikai Kensei vs Grimmjow

No restrictions besides Bankai. AA Grimmjow.
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People think Kensei needs his fucking mask for this when he man-handled Fully Hollowfied Bankai Ichigo with his bare hands? :really

Ress Zommari vs Base Harribel

Harribel is restricted to Base. Who wins?
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TheTwelfthKenpachi said:
Zommari probably wins more times than not assuming he doesn't try to mess around which would automatically get him beheaded.
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Miizaren said:
Imo Released Espada 5-7 are stronger than Base Espada 1-4. Not by much but still stronger.
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For fuck's sake, even arguing a Released Espada can beat the BASE form of the Espada immediately above them is a fucking stretch, never mind arguing he can beat one FOUR RANKS higher than him. :smh
 
or they got food poisoning, a rat spawned in their brain, they tripped, etc

the list goes on, really
 
Can ya'll kindly take it to DMs if you are going to constantly snipe at each other all the time at this rate?
The main reason why Makima vs. Wonder of U is stupid is the nature of how Wonder of U's powers would even work on someone like Makima to begin with and how ridiculous you would have to go for the Calamity effect to work on her dead ass vs. how many will die in the process.
We also have to take durability into account as well even then.

JoJo has never been the greatest in durability and strength compared to other series and I'm not going into the "Wonder of U can ignore durability because of raindrops" shit considering Wheel of Fortune was able to somehow have gasoline be sprayed as fast as bullets somehow hurt Stand Users enough to bleed.

Round 1) Jinwoo vs Soul Society Arc Ichigo (Post Bankai Training)

Round 2) Jinwoo vs Arrancar Arc Ichigo (During his final fight with Grimmjow)
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Goku's Opponents
• Kenshiro (Fist of the North Star)
• Ranma Saotome (Ranma 1/2)
• Tokita Ohmna (Kengan Ashura)
• Garou (One Punch Man)
• Akisame Koetsuji (History's Strongest Disciple Kenichi)
• Kasumi Orochi (Baki the Grappler)
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SB and making some of the most dogshit VS. threads, name a better duo
 


Still funny to see people completely misinterpret Infinite Void like every single one of Gojo's skills as per usual.

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It doesn't fill your brain with comprehensible information but on a high speed so you turn off like virus-attacked PC, it's literally fries your brain with incomprehensible nonsense that said information used to be. It literally turns your entire perception upside down, where you think you're floating in the air like a extinguisher in space when in reality you're lie on a floor in convulsions
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Thank you. It's not infinite vision it's weaponized executive dysfunction. Your brain is only able to make decisions with complete information, you can't decide to do things your brain doesn't know are options. By fucking up a person's perception so that information is never complete, their brain can no longer give an accurate assessment of what is around them and thus cannot determine what you can or can't do, so you can't do anything.
This is the exact same thing people with ADHD deal with on a daily basis but multiplied by 10000%. Your brain thinks it's getting new information, so tries to update your available options, but it's just being fed infinite garbage so you're stuck waiting. It's basically the "I forgot why I walked in this room, lemme look around to remember" sensation but it lasts forever
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Still funny that this is not how it comes off in the story at all except against normal Humans...
It's also funny because Human Brains do have the ability to shut off too much redundant information in the first place in the same fashion we shut down the ability to feel empathy if there is too much stimulation at once(i.e. thousands of people die around you at once vs. if just one person dies.) so like Infinity, Gege fucked up again trying to tie it to realistic terms.
 
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