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Here the text that the user translated herms98 about: chars who are > kid buu since genkidama erased kid buu, def scale to that level of speed, thats how i have it

after all, chars from a sequel series are always stronger :mjpls

at this point even ledgic is ssj4 gogeta levels for the likes of ruphas :mjlol

the 90's version is from the plan to eliminate the saiyans nes game, i am aware and what he did actually was, he warped space around him, including the galaxy and the large planet, etc overall underrated feat, and pmuch the icing on the cake, for galaxy+ m8 broly tier fighters in toeiland, nice that you remind me of the feat, again

sadly, the french dbs manga stans, who like it a lot and keep repping it, are half of the reason it is still ongoing in west, smh overall, both tori and toyo are hacks and should be ashamed for the current state of the series, smh

we really had them at minimum low-end versions from years ago, really minimum estimations, so yeah i really don't mind galaxy+ levels goku time upper high tier/top tiers

ssj full power broly > gohan blanco > incomplete bio cell max > top arc jiren is canon

we knew that current blue movie versions of goku and vegeta, were still > piccolo fanta feats wise, what matters is, he surpassed their blue versions of the broly saga also like i also said, broly >> incomplete cell max, which also means, ssj full power broly >> gohan blanco completed cell max being a tough opponent for broly, is a nice info too, if gohan blanco had defeated a completed cell max, things would be dif, way dif in the power tier

daily reminder that, kakarot had it first, in the namek saga - manga version 🤷‍♂️

post-z exists, it's known as db goku time so, the correct answer is, post-super hero and ignore the dbs manga arcs :yousmart

he countered gas's sad weapon techs, with a fail sf third strike parry lmao

toyo is out of ideas and traces, once again i mean, what you expect, when your main villain of this arc is named as gas = alien fart, pmuch? :mjlol

since mshadows knows legit japanese and finally has made some great summaries, that's so far the verdict about the power levels mshadows: ''The movie ignores the Moro and Granola arcs. It’s a direct continuation of the Broly movie. Jiren, Broly and the GoDs are still benchmarks. Jiren is pinned by Goku in the same statement about “amazing guys” which contains Broly and the GoDs. I believe he’s still meant to be GoD tier, it’s what had Goku excited about other universes in Broly too. It’s just that this explanation makes no sense within the context of the anime and manga. The Gammas are said to be close to SSB Goku and Vegeta in power. Ultimate Piccolo is about as strong as the Gammas, while Ultimate Gohan is stronger than the Androids, although not by a long shot...

current ui and ue, just a correction previous arcs version, have been surpassed

honest opinion? don't pay attention to those retcon's about jiren, it's senile yama's bad estimations, from what i can translate about it is, his way of saying, that jiren is still ''important'', nah, we ain't doing it here, when jiren appears again and shows new feats, we talk again for now he has been surpassed, for arcs now keep the powerscale as we know it, and let the others say what they want although, def we gon get a better estimation, once, the full legit translation is out

bruh fanfic73 can onepunch top arc jiren, you think gohan blanco or piccolo orange, wouldn't do the same? lmao especially in gohan's case this guy pmuch showed here, that if he gets his mind straight on fighting and doesn't neglect training, he is top tier saiyan material, again

i call fluke on that part, goku, broly and vegeta would whoop cell max (incomplete) too, mean, these guys are training with whis and beerus, not saying, gohan blanco isn't as strong as fanfic73 ui goku levels, could be stronger too overall, i got gohan blanco also >>ui fanfic73 and piccolo orange could def give standard fanfic73 a fight, cuz the guy managed to trap cell max for a minute and something, despite being badly damaged, and gave the opening for gohan blanco to end him, with a gohan styled masenko

and the funnier thing is, cell max, wasn't even at full power, and he is also > fanfic73 i guess, his final form, would be known as cell max pro :mjpls

gohan blanco is actually menacing and smirks a lot he is like a semi fusion of ssj4 and ui = personality wise idc about toriyama's or toyo's writing all i have to say is, after decades this gohan feels like he is truly strong, once again

watched a lq version of the movie, mostly the final act of it gotta say, first of all, the trailers suck compared to it, imagine when the blu ray quality comes out and kyle voices gohan once again, it would be so ace to continue it's not so bad, as we thought, the choreo is actually good, way better than 95% of the dbs episodes, at some point gohan blanco def looks lit, power level wise, gohan blanco has surpassed fanfic73, obviously also enjoy