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By the way, I don't like Rugrat's whole "even if Phenom is the least likely of your scum reads, you should lynch him" schtick. Something about it feels like a mislynch attempt where he can point back to the logic afterwards to protect himself from the aftermath.

Why did you randomly bring me up here? Reeks of trying to get an easyish mislynch on an inactive.

"If I take away the meta defence" That's a big if, as with Lethal I would contend it is compelling.

I know it isn't meant to stand on its own, and that's my point. The miller thing amply answered what I had asked - so you adding in the stuff about not scumreading Retro felt unnecessary. Over-answering is something I tend to associate with scum beacuse scum are more worried about being accused of poor reasoning for their reads. Not saying you're necessarily scummy overall but it is a point I feel is worth making.

I just don't understand why someone like you, who is clearly a logically-inclined player, wants to hammer in on poor-logic posts from a player who has a history of poor logic. Like, if you think the posts sound fake, then that's different, but that doesn't seem to be your angle here.

Fair to both. I'm a little uncertain of the last point from you though, Ratchet, as this could be extended to several inactives. For example, since I've arrived, have you found anything objectional in my play? And could you not excuse me being alive due to a lack of presence (scum foreseeing a modkill/noting that I'm gonna be less informed when I eventually do play)?

I think the "That's just Lethal" thing is a bit disingenuous. In previous games, it has been pretty easy to pick out when Lethal is really being wonky, and when he's faking it. He's an incredibly easy slot to read for anyone who has played a significant number of games with him - because he has to try fake his "just Lethal" things as scum and he's not very good at doing it.

Out of interest, why not Retro? (There's probably a claim I don't know about but curious if not the case)

You know you're allowed to lynch people for reasons other than "they tried to lynch me", right?

literally tbf

Why would you not think Arsonist and JOAT could be in the same game? o.O Also Arsonist is usually a 3P role from my experience but w/e

I'm Ace.

If you have a daykill, why have you not used it on the SK?

if this is real out

I won't be able to find receipts but I'm pretty sure I recall games with TAT where he fake claimed... as town. He thinks he's big-brain and a top-tier mafia player but he's the polar opposite.

In the nicest way possible: TAT is not a good mafia player. I even gave you an xo last time I asked for your claim :|

Why does it matter? We're at mass claim. Why should you be special? Also it will help so that we can determine whether your 'counterclaim' could actually coexist with a town Flay JOAT. (Spoiler alert: Vigilantes and JOATs in the same game are definitely a thing),

Why are you so against meta reads? I'm pretty sure you do it yourself with players we're not aware of. Like when Goth Boy joined and everyone said he was just a troll and not to take anything he said seriously or something of that nature. Its the same thing. TAT has a bizarre mind and is famous for having bad takes and poor reasoning - not just in mafia, either. So when he jumps into that mode as he has here, it actually comes across as authentic TAT thinking he's far clever than he is. I'd much rather use that as a metric than avoid a player's posting style altogether.

@Black Pegged Dragon please focus less on CP being CP and more on claiming xo

I mean, you'll be around to lead it :heston: