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As Ultra tells me, the commute was never supposed to be a commute, he just worded it that way and when it came to actually mattering, he resolved it as such (which he would have to, as changing it would be more damaging).

I can't possibly attest to the last point so I will take your word for it. As for the rest, I dunno, you saw Ekko espousing nonsense and played into it with him, and honestly it's not the first time you've just not really played with genuine effort. I appreciate that there are reasons for it, and I don't think you signed up to this game to troll it (though I can think of a few examples where you have done this) but I don't feel like you helped anyone solve you here. You might think I'm being unfair - I think putting it all on Ekko is just as silly personally. I don't feel like it was jumping the gun, or se - I had a rationale behind it - a wrong one obviously, but it was there nonetheless. Aside from that I mean I don't really know what to tell you, I was pretty convinced you were scum after the point I mentioned - if I wasn't I would say so, I don't have the personality to try and defend my reads too much (I dislike doing it even to this extent) so you're entitled to whatever...

I'm not really sure what the point if this is - in Day 4 I quoted several of your posts saying "this progression feels extremely fake" and since then I had you down as scum. My posts are in the thread. I do not say this ti take away from your game, you played well, and deserved to win. I give my props, my dues, my kudos etc. The reason I thought that part of your play was bad was because it felt like you were playing to the crowd in terms of deciding where you vote would go. Obviously Ekko was making himself public enemy number 1, and your progression felt like you were leaning into that for me. As town, it's not something I'd expect because you wouldn't have any particular agenda around it, hence why my read was quite strong. In the end, I wasn't able to convince other players enough and went for the mislynches, so even though I talk about having caught you, I still made the wrong decisions after it, and you'd convinced enough players to sway them elsewhere.

I mean I don't even know why you bothered, just another slot that slept at the wheel all game. If it were one or two it would be one thing, it's a good 6 or 7 that are just anchors to work past. Hope you can be more present next time.

The day dodsy was lynched, I was saying you were scum over your handling of Ekko. You were in my immediate PoE since that point.

I don't really think it's fair blaming the towns loss on Ekko here either. Lethal - I thought he combusted without real need and tanked his slot, was hard to get past that and avoid lynching him. RDK/Rugrat - RDK spent his time in the game trolling, Rugrat didn't really play. Doddsy - Barely played for most of three cycles, had less posts than the host for the majority of it too. Phenom - Bad misread on my part. I mean there is plenty of blame to go around d here - I'd sooner blame the Serial inactives who make it impossible to read their slots or the trolls that play with no sense of sincerity etc. I experienced the worst of it from Ekko this game too (well, Gram alongside me to be fair) so yes he was obviously awful to play along with, and I even tried against my better judgement and it failed as usual, but it's not just one single slot. Sucks though.

Already said in dead chat, but GG and thanks for the game. No real issues with the setup, again gone over most of my slight concerns with Ultra in the dead chat but all being told town lost, scum won, and it's deserved. I'm content with how I played - caught chadwick and Fang, and T-Pein twice over, but slipped up with Doddsy and Phenom which were the two lynches that went over. Need a break from playing here I think, just a few weeks so I can be less burnt out. Players who are always inactive are starting to just ruin games for me and I don't really want to be pushing myself just to play - I didn't really enjoy playing this game at all. @Dr_Professor83 Am glad you caught on and took the opportunity to burn up the silly truth tell thing. After what we talked about (I think the Erika picture probably gave it away too) I saw a good opportunity - I think you'll be more relaxed from here on now with that stuff. Also, gg.

Have almost nothing good to say about any of it to be honest. @Fujishiro I dunno why you quoted me, what I said has literally nothing to do with your game.

Which one do you think was a bad lynch? Lethal? I don't regret that. RDK/Rugrat? RDK spent his time trolling the game, Rugrat didn't really play. I don't regret that. Doddsy? I don't regret that at all. Phenom? Shrug.

Pretty awful experience all around though. Break time me thinks.

I do have a bit of an issue with Ultra routinely ignoring my Vote: cast all game except now, but it's not like I left it to bait so it's just inconsistent moderation. Rest is whatever, was never going to not lynch Phenom today.

If Phenom is town, and he probably is, we deserve to lose anyway. Was right on Pein, Prof, Fang. Fuji was an outside but that's fine. Probably BPD?

Oh he counted this time anyway. Shrug.

Technically my vote didn't follow Ultra's format.

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Claim, please. No more wiggle room.

4 isn't impossible, but 5 is more likely, and for the purposes of PoE we should always assume the worse of the two cases to avoid misclearing.

I'd rather lose in Final 7 having gotten 2 or 3 scum flips than lose in final 13.

I'm actually getting hints of ingenuity from his arguments, I don't think he believes what he's espousing. If that's the case we can probably expect him to either be scum, or scum-siding, so I'd like to try and draw out which one that might be. There is a non-0 chance he is Mafia, too, unlikely as I think that may be right now.

For now I want them to solve through it, will circle back to it later I think.