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Well most people never really do NNT shit here outside of making fun of it so..

Um, that's what I have been saying for a long ass time when it comes to series like these? Even for Fate, I wouldn't put in Beasts or Lostbelt Zeus or Chaos against anyone worth a damn because after awhile it just becomes a pissing contest. OPM is pretty much becoming the 2nd Suggs considering how ridiculous Murata and ONE are being with the Manga version at this point.

Don't toss stones when your house is even more fragile than glass dumbass. You get offended as fuck when your "respect thread" was garbage, then try and pretend you are saving To Aru from us "smoothbrains" only to make the others look worse as you are defending them. And you pretty much freak out when OMG told you the truth in that the 3rd Season completely fucked up any chance of To Aru gaining popularity in the West when that's completely true. It's like pretending Boruto is still heavily popular when it's barely carried by it's anime and most people tuned the hell out.

Dude, we remember the topic, it wasn't a respect thread as I told you to make one. It was a topic on Othinus and the True Magic Gods and there was no context whatsoever in it in the slightest outside of, again, Mr. OMG chipping in with the actual context. *Thinking To Aru is a popular series even now* :hestonpls Dude, To Aru was ONCE decently known here in hardcore circles and that fucking died when they barely released shit of the series until later on. And no, it appearing in VS. topics here and there doesn't make it popular. Hell, Fate is more well known and popular here than To Aru and most of it's well known properties aren't even officially translated here. Bro, not even Spacebattles consistently use To Aru in VS. topics. Not even ComicVine or even VSB uses To Aru consistently in VS. topics. Again, I see Naruto, Bleach, One Piece, even Fate consistently used more in every other VS. Debating forum, even fucking REDDIT than To Aru.

I like how you continue to believe that you are God's Gift to this forum when no one fucking cares about your fake ass. Why don't you leave since no, you didn't contribute shit and continue to make it a joke by you existing. Goldenboy actually made a respect topic, you didn't. OMG atleast chips in, you didn't do shit. You are only doing this now because Masterblack caught you snooping around this forum, as did I and others but I didn't give enough of a fuck of your existence to say anything to you. So how about you do us this actual favor this time and :dyoutlov Get the hell out of here.

I'm going to be frank and say this pointblank: I can see why Masterblack wants this series banned from his own perspective. We have had no one here even be remotely straight in the slightest of where To Aru stands at and we have consistently had people waffle and then suddenly present "NEW INFORMATION" that suddenly places it somewhere else entirely different all in this one topic. You guys aren't actually expanding the series as you are thinking you are, you are emphatically making even harder to take it seriously than ever before.

That... *sigh* that doesn't actually explain my problem. Yes, you can have a physical Universe and other things outside of that which counts as the same components of the Universe(see Marvel and DC). Here's where my problem is: How does this translate into somehow To Aru's "World" is bigger than it's "Universe"? If anything, it explains that it's closer to Marvel or DC than it somehow being the other way around. It also fits the ridiculous problem with the True Magic Gods and people here completely make fun of without remorse. And finally, people being able to make spaces outside of the Universe doesn't expand the Universe or anything like that, it just means you are able to make dimensions outside of the Universe.

Like let me be even more frank: The Star Ocean series comes off far more credible in VS. Debates than this and that series gave us Star Ocean 3 which basically pushed their Universe to absurd lengths on every category. I trust that series far more than To Aru right now when it comes to that.

That's not really answering my question though? Alright let me explain this better: How do you qualify where To Aru's "World" begin and their "Universe" End? How can we use any of this to try and believe this makes them Universal+ or Multiversal rather than them just having a far smaller Universe and thus it wouldn't count? Can they have those mechanics to make their Universe bigger like Comics or Dark Tower for example? Sure but then we get to the real issue here: Because their "World" is bigger than their "Universe" despite how absurd that sounds on it's face even with it's mechanics known, how precisely does that make that somehow translate into VS. Debates without anyone just throwing it out as basically complete nonsense? For example, we don't pretend Aliciazation of SAO is somehow another World or Universe despite how ridiculous those Fluclight AI and their environment is and thus, we don't try and pretend that those who made are some high level super beings. We don't try...

How does that do so in terms of VS. debates rather than throw the entire series out by having their "World" be bigger than their "Universe"? Again, it raises more questions, not solve them.

... Then that shit just raises even more questions at this point...

Okay and? We have had plenty of times where the Servantverse's Shining Blue Galaxy was referred to as a Galaxy and Universe as well as Bel Maana being a Galaxy AND a Universe at once, that doesn't mean it's just one or the other. Secondly, are you certain that those translations are even 100% sound? Fan Translations have been known to become REALLY shit or primarily confusing as hell because of that same deal. Because again, we have had that same problem with alot of LN's and VN's, including with some shit like either FGO's early translations, Bleach and CFYOW and so on and so forth. The Author doesn't take precedence dude, that's the entire point of Feats > Statements. The author ONLY takes precedence when the feats in question primarily fit with what we have seen with the feats in question(i.e. If someone dodges a Lightning Bolt but it's iffy due to not having an explanation of whether it's real or not and the author states it's a real Lightning Bolt, then we take it as true)...

It's why he doesn't want it banned, he wants it to continue like this infinitely. His most successful topic :skully

Yeah, I'm just going to tap out and walk away. This IS basically Japanese Suggs completely.

Alright I'll be real, these are BEYOND stretches, like going full into Googolplex levels and thinking anyone would ever try writing that number down. Our Universe is infinitely expanding and far, far, far bigger than we ever thought it was, that doesn't mean it's Multiversal on it's own. So can you guys please stop with this shit? You are legit going into SB levels with trying so hard to push Multiversal To Aru despite no real standing on it.

I never said you did. That doesn't even begin to make sense. How can their main Universe be smaller than their Universe?

Or at the very least, it's actually laid out in a way that it wouldn't take multiple bullet points to get across... Like Bleach has 3 simple Planet Earth Sized Worlds and that's it. Fate primarily does a Layered Planet deal with a Multiverse and timelines that are and aren't infinite due to lore reasons. Marvel has infinite universes and various huge ass dimensions and otherwise around it, same with DC. And so on and so forth. The more I try to understand, To Aru, the less sense it makes and the more infinitely incomprehensible it is. There's only ONE Universe... but there are supposed to be Infinite Phases that are somehow Universal Size but are stuck within the same Universe... but they are also apparently OUTSIDE the Universe when most of them are inside the Universe and yeah no...

I'm pretty sure that comes from how the Marvel Universe(well a single Universe, not the Multiverse) is handled. I remember that we had scans of that shit somewhere in regards to the overall Universe but I can't remember where.

It's pretty evident on what Sir_Fire is stating, you don't need to reach that hard for him to wonder if there is actually a debate here. And otherwise, I'm sticking with Mad God Genis considering the fact that as we don't have anything showing Othinus is Universal+, she loses in terms of firepower and bullshit Marvel Cosmic Awareness.

No, I did say that in a different phrase of destroying multiple planets at once doesn't = you being Star level or Galaxy. You are still just Planetary. It would still matter even when it comes to Universes and Multiple Universes.