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Game Ranked Better Call Saul Mafia Game Thread [Game End - Serial Killer Victory]

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I've been trying to give Ratchet a little space because my tack record on him hasn't been uh great lately but I don't think it's any stretch of the imagination to say he's not been performing up to his usual self and he's STRUGGLING right now
 
Uh well his main push today has been OLU and Psychic
Last I checked yesterday he also wanted Whicker dead. Idk what else he posted though. Did he retract his scum read on Whicker?
tracked him going nowhere, and he's claimed to have jailed tweet and possibly just stopped the vig kill as a result
Why do you think a vig would try to kill tweet lmao? Do you scum read Tweet? I thought people were alright with him, I liked him last day phase.
 
Last phase when you tagged me you seemed to question Ultra a bit , questioned why I was town reading him. Why not him instead? What made you jail Tweet?
I'm jailing to protect, not to impede.
Your angle here is pure rolespec garbage, is this really the best you have to offer?
Your angle for vigging me earlier was pure rolespec garbage, at least mine actually has basis in reality due to the host being the host. It's the best because it's a lock, he obviously got the fake and thought to roleplay it, and most of the players here just nodded along with it. Look I know I'm wasting my precious time trying to convince you of anything, this is mostly for posterity. No one with even passing knowledge of ekko sincerely believes he includes this.
 
Why does OLU going nowhere mean anything? Ekko's not going to give town a free clear - we both know this so let's not pretend otherwise, which means the post restriction is fake. He has 0 precedence for doing it. I'm not going to let you try and spin that into being mechanically clearing, you sussy little slot.
Do you wanna swap role? I can ask Emil if I can be a petty with a prior instead.
 
I've been trying to give Ratchet a little space because my tack record on him hasn't been uh great lately but I don't think it's any stretch of the imagination to say he's not been performing up to his usual self and he's STRUGGLING right now
Your track record has never been good. As for the rest, none of that actually makes me scummy, it just means my apathy levels for the game are pretty high. Which uh, yeah they are. I'm offering a token defence but once I'm done at work this is probably all I'll do for the rest of today. My role should be valuable enough to keep around, take it or leave it.
It's NAI and you have a petty with a prior
It's not NAI. The flavour is very clearly defined - the role is either designed to be a town IC or it's scum faking it. And given that Ekko hates the former then yeah, it's scum faking it.
 
Ratchet is hard role speccing OLU's claim as scum but thinks nothing of Seraph/Bus Driver/Janitor not all contradicting each other

Vote lynch Ratchet
I assume you mean Jailer? I already went over this earlier, they're not contradicting at all.
 
I'm jailing to protect, not to impede.
Your angle for vigging me earlier was pure rolespec garbage, at least mine actually has basis in reality due to the host being the host. It's the best because it's a lock, he obviously got the fake and thought to roleplay it, and most of the players here just nodded along with it. Look I know I'm wasting my precious time trying to convince you of anything, this is mostly for posterity. No one with even passing knowledge of ekko sincerely believes he includes this.

Your assertion that "Ekko hates free clears" is answered by the fact that a post restriction is not a free clear for him though?

What you're saying is illogical. Ekko has included fake post restrictions, therefore they're always going to be scum? lolno

The fact that it can be fake is enough to evidence that he would feel fine including a town one, because it's not "free"
 
he’s not been performing up to his usual self and he's STRUGGLING right now
Yeah I can agree here tbh. Im just not sure why though, as both alignements I always see him tryhard or atleast be active.
Anyone who knows anything about Ekko knows how much he hates millers. No way in hell he basically gives town an IC through them being post restricted which is even stronger than miller clearing. I dunno how this has gone unchallenged for so long.
Besides OLU can you tell me why you scum read Psyhic? And who else is there for you? Can you post a full reads list?
 
Ah okay,

Can you explain to an OLF mech noob like me how those contradict each other?

3 dedicated protective roles in a game of this size is statistically fairly unlikely

Ratchet softing protection D1 and not being dead is also extremely unlikely - if I assume a scum team that's full of meme players then I can accept this more easily (like in the last WG game). But here uh, probably not.

His attitude towards this is also a bit revealing, instead of saying "yeah whicker's probably fake", he keeps saying it doesn't mean anything, and his first choice to resolve wasn't whicker today either
 
finally if we think there's one between whicker/ratchet since evidently ratchet would be scum blocker we should probably opt for him first

Whicker can potentially redirect a kill as BD but he can't stop one so more options on the table
 
Your assertion that "Ekko hates free clears" is answered by the fact that a post restriction is not a free clear for him though?

What you're saying is illogical. Ekko has included fake post restrictions, therefore they're always going to be scum? lolno

The fact that it can be fake is enough to evidence that he would feel fine including a town one, because it's not "free"
The idea of the role would be to indicate to the thread that the player is town. Whether it is believed is another matter, miller can be faked for example but it's treated as an IC here. Absolutely the same is true with this.
Of course you would say this
I mean no, it's demonstrably true. I don't even necessarily think it is the case, but no reason why it can't be.
Besides OLU can you tell me why you scum read Psyhic? And who else is there for you? Can you post a full reads list?
Who said I scum read Psychic?

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If you want me to talk about OLU's play then sure, let's talk about that. Day 1 he proceeds to tunnel Flower, despite having historically had no issues with her when she claims Indie, only to pivot to Cubey at the very end to secure a mislynch when Cuney was largely pushed by people he was positioning against. Then day 2 he pushes Flower, and nothing but Flower, which as per her flip we now see she was completely right about scum benefitting from her death. And then here he very transparently works his way up to voting me through a nonsensical angle.

@Ultra You surely don't think this is fooling anyone right? Like I know you're not going to be "fooled" by OLU of all people and I know all of this hasn't just happened to escape your notice. You're a better town player than this. Are you getting greedy?
 
No I think it's probably Tweet, he's made that pretty clear today. I dunno what to tell you, figured he was a plausible kill choice so I jailed him. Don't really care if I blocked a vig kill because having the numbers is more important than not.
I'm gonna confirm here that you didn't block a kill I made last night fwiw
 
3 dedicated protective roles in a game of this size is statistically fairly unlikely

Ratchet softing protection D1 and not being dead is also extremely unlikely - if I assume a scum team that's full of meme players then I can accept this more easily (like in the last WG game). But here uh, probably not.

His attitude towards this is also a bit revealing, instead of saying "yeah whicker's probably fake", he keeps saying it doesn't mean anything, and his first choice to resolve wasn't whicker today either
I'm like L-2 and you're asking why scum haven't killed me. Really now.
 
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