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maybe the definition of probably gonna tunnel is very different in ur site than here
It isn't when you are in practice tunnelling me. Look, you burned the bridge when you said "tunnel until one of us is dead". I see no point in collaborating with you after that.
 
Well not really, CPs point was that hime and gad had some fluffy interactions earlier in the day. Gad being fluffy wasn't the point, but he was linking them together
i mean i dont have a better option rn, just gonna play devil's advocate for gad until his time has come i guess
 
i dont get it tbh
the only number i see is the post number and it doesnt isolate hime's posts tbh
so you click on the three dots near the top of the page
select "who replied?"
next to their name is the number of posts they made
click that number. it ISOs their posts
 
I dont remember him sussing you for it? Ill have a look but i dont remember him pushing you at all. He also didnt push me despite me basically using the same method for town reading saber as you
He did sus me.
Maybe we have very different views on like what a "push" is? Considering Emil's feelings on my push on Hime, it seems like pushes have to include fireworks and explosions to count.

What I am saying is that Gad took issues with my reason to town read Saber and spent a good deal of posts on that. That's all.
 
It isn't when you are in practice tunnelling me. Look, you burned the bridge when you said "tunnel until one of us is dead". I see no point in collaborating with you after that.
ok?

i guess let me get it straight, do u just insta fold when someone says they might/probably tunnel you for something? specially since u read me town, u know im atleast coming from a genuine place, whats stopping me from reassessing u at any point into the game without one of us flipping? i want to know if ur traumatized previously by some historical tunnels or whats going on
 
He did sus me.
Maybe we have very different views on like what a "push" is? Considering Emil's feelings on my push on Hime, it seems like pushes have to include fireworks and explosions to count.

What I am saying is that Gad took issues with my reason to town read Saber and spent a good deal of posts on that. That's all.
I have both of you as neutral but gth I can see you as scum leans tbh, but I think saber is more likely to act scum. Basically, they way you and poyser interacted with poyser felt iffy, and I feel you guys don't have any equity with him for sure.

Still early (for me) so it's not a solid read, but option 1, Saber is town and you two, or at least one of you, is TMI town reading him. Option 2 is he's scum, and for some reason y'all are town and reading him town, option 3 is he's town and y'all see something that I don't.

Currently leaning towards option 2 but I can't say I'm

Doesnt really seem that way to me. He was discrediting town reads on saber because he wanted to push saber as scum kek
 
Now I remember.
Gad took issues with how my micro reads were formed and really dug into it. In my experience, town is way likelier to not understand how I form my reads and will therefore sus me for it. Town is usually more intolerant to other players' methods than wolves. A sort of, scum reading things they dont understand the pov of. Whereas scum likes to push other things.

That and that I don't think Gad's posting has been that wolfy tbh
im also baffled at this, u said on multiple occasions that town often suspect you for couple of things that you do, but u fold immediately when one of them decides they may want to tunnel you, it kinda doesnt add up

id expect at certain point if u know u get suspected too much as town ud just start no diffing these suspicions until the townies casting them get good'er, not just fold altogether

its also weird here because u dont know my ability to reassess things. yes, maybe im a giga tunneller, but also maybe i question someone few times and reassess. who knows? surely ud try first before resorting to "lynch me next" posting

ive also acknowledged ur PoE in multiple occasions, including suspecting watson myself for a fair bit of time before me and u had interacted, i think it'd be fairly easy to convince me on watson being scum, and i think if u flip town thats one of the main people im going to reassess. its not that deep to me, i just find ur response too over the top for something i havent done yet
 
im going to sleep. hopefully its not hammered by time i wake up. kinda wanna interact with hime a bit if there is atleast a slither of hope she can be town
 
You're choosing a Gad post that isn't in relation with talking to me about my Saber town read so like
Its literally a direct response to that conversation and you asking him what you think it means for your and my alignments lol ??
 
im also baffled at this, u said on multiple occasions that town often suspect you for couple of things that you do, but u fold immediately when one of them decides they may want to tunnel you, it kinda doesnt add up

id expect at certain point if u know u get suspected too much as town ud just start no diffing these suspicions until the townies casting them get good'er, not just fold altogether

its also weird here because u dont know my ability to reassess things. yes, maybe im a giga tunneller, but also maybe i question someone few times and reassess. who knows? surely ud try first before resorting to "lynch me next" posting

ive also acknowledged ur PoE in multiple occasions, including suspecting watson myself for a fair bit of time before me and u had interacted, i think it'd be fairly easy to convince me on watson being scum, and i think if u flip town thats one of the main people im going to reassess. its not that deep to me, i just find ur response too over the top for something i havent done yet
Because I no longer have patience for it. It takes way too much mental energy to be in a game where someone death tunnels me.

Weren't you the one who questioned my reason to scum read Watson and town read them if Hime is scum lol?

But the thing is. You have already done it. You've started it. And I give nothing for semantics. If you mention multiple times that you will tunnel me and say stuff like "tunnel until 1 of us is dead", then you can't go and walk it back when I read what you say. You can't have the cake and eat it too tbh
 
Its literally a direct response to that conversation and you asking him what you think it means for your and my alignments lol ??
Oh, I forgot that the quotes don't show the quote chain tbh

He didn't just post that one post in going against my town read on Saber though.
 
Oh, I forgot that the quotes don't show the quote chain tbh

He didn't just post that one post in going against my town read on Saber though.
Yes but I never said that, you said he sussed you for it and thats why you think he's town and im saying he didn't really. he wasnt using that convo to sus you he was using it to sus saber
 
Because I no longer have patience for it. It takes way too much mental energy to be in a game where someone death tunnels me.

Weren't you the one who questioned my reason to scum read Watson and town read them if Hime is scum lol?

But the thing is. You have already done it. You've started it. And I give nothing for semantics. If you mention multiple times that you will tunnel me and say stuff like "tunnel until 1 of us is dead", then you can't go and walk it back when I read what you say. You can't have the cake and eat it too tbh
wait, why cant people take back what they say as things progress in a game of mafia?

suppose i said posyer is town. im not allowed to revise that later as things progress? how do u play this game exactly??
 
ok?

i guess let me get it straight, do u just insta fold when someone says they might/probably tunnel you for something? specially since u read me town, u know im atleast coming from a genuine place, whats stopping me from reassessing u at any point into the game without one of us flipping? i want to know if ur traumatized previously by some historical tunnels or whats going on
I do instantly fold yes. Or rather, lose my patience. Aside from the Syndicate game I linked, there are other examples where I strive to vote myself out so the tunnellers can re-assess. It is the general rule that when I play with people who have no experience with how I solve, I will be death tunnelled until the game is over. It has been like that since at least 2016. Out of those games only one tunneller has managed to go away from the tunnel, but it took three day phases. Every single time they are town. There are instances where I get death tunnelled for weeks regardless of my game results. It completely throws off my game.

I've tried several methods. None of them works and in the end I get distracted from solving. I am super bad at solving in that sort of context, since 99% of my other reads will be based on tilt and grandstanding. Knowing that I will be misyeeted gives me the peace of mind to go back to solving. So no, fmpov I am not being dramatic or over the top. This is a cold logical solution. Like, idk how many times I have had this exact conversation. I have also seen it in games I have specced, where town declare death tunnels and eventually loses the game because of it. If someone says they will tunnel me until death, then I will try to die as fast as possible so the game can move on from it.
 
wait, why cant people take back what they say as things progress in a game of mafia?

suppose i said posyer is town. im not allowed to revise that later as things progress? how do u play this game exactly??
Thats not what I am saying. I am saying that you're changing what you originally said, not that you changed your mind.

Gonna ignore this topic for now
 
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