Caster Artoria (Fate) vs Doctor Strange (MCU)

[Edward Nygma]

 

[King of time]

Unless you give the time stone to Stephen, without the time stone she kicks his ass

 

[OrlandoSky]

If what I'm seeing on the OBD wiki is accurate and the fate characters are around small country level and MHS then Strange casually sling rings her into a star and goes about his day.

 

[Flowering Knight]

Artoria is rel to FTL and large planet level lmao, all with way more hax to boot, that's assuming Caster Artoria doesn't get scaling to any of the solar system level dudes in nasuverse

Strange is fucked either way

 

[OrlandoSky]

Artoria is rel to FTL and large planet level lmao, all with way more hax to boot, that's assuming Caster Artoria doesn't get scaling to any of the solar system level dudes in nasuverse

Strange is fucked either way

If she's only FTL and large planet level then Strange still has better speed and better DC

 

[Eztephan]

The only version of Strange from the MCU that can beat Castoria is Strange Supreme.

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

Artoria is rel to FTL and large planet level lmao, all with way more hax to boot, that's assuming Caster Artoria doesn't get scaling to any of the solar system level dudes in nasuverse

Strange is fucked either way

She does, she can literally grant people the names of the KoTR which boosts them to those levels, she explicitly has Marmydose which is stronger than Excalibur's base strength and can create Barriers on the level of Anti-Planet degree without issues.

So she explicitly gets high scaling too.

 

[Edward Nygma]

Unless you give the time stone to Stephen, without the time stone she kicks his ass

I don't see why not. Human mages like Kiritsugu could manage time manipulation. It shouldn't be a one-shot for someone of Artoria's skill.

assuming Caster Artoria doesn't get scaling to any of the solar system level dudes in nasuverse

She does, she can literally grant people the names of the KoTR which boosts them to those levels, she explicitly has Marmydose which is stronger than Excalibur's base strength and can create Barriers on the level of Anti-Planet degree without issues.

So she explicitly gets high scaling too.

Yeah...solar system level would be a lot. You'd have to reach for the best scaling possible. And it will be a reach.

L&T Thor = or > Zeus ≈hype≈ Odin (creates several stars out of Freya's body in a tie-in comic). Unless you think L&T Thor could barehand box Thanos, this means: EG Wanda > EG Thanos > L&T Thor. After that, it's a question of whether or not you think current Strange could mimic Wanda's attack against Thanos in EG.

This would, of course, mean that EG Thanos and Wanda were various levels of solar system level. Something I'm sure checks out.

Strange might be able to amp his defenses to that level, but he'll need a few minutes (from his perspective) to prep. He should have the initial speed advantage, so there is a non-zero chance he can manage with BFR, clones, illusions, and time manipulation.

If he gets his Guardian Vishanti spell off, it will definitely up Castoria's workload, if nothing else. At best, it might turn the battle into a raw hax-off. As that spell might be over Castoria's DC. That spell took an absolute beating from Strange Supreme. Even if Supreme was only at half strength (lol, no), he'd still be casually multi galaxy level+.

 

[Tablos]

If she's only FTL and large planet level then Strange still has better speed and better DC

Blitzed and beated by Holland´s Spiderman.
Artoria vapes him

 

[Edward Nygma]

Blitzed and beated by Holland´s Spiderman.
Artoria vapes him

Strange can consistently react to Thanos. The same Thanos who throws hands with Captain Marvel. He's MFTL.

 

[Tablos]

Strange can consistently react to Thanos. The same Thanos who throws hands with Captain Marvel. He's MFTL.

Cap. Marvel clearly can´t fight at the same speed as she fly , also Thanos , the same guy who gets ganked by Guardians of the galaxy ? hell even Drax can harm his legs or Starlord can fly fine around him and that Stones Thanos.
There is a obvious difference in MCU movies and MCU what ifs.
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Strange still got outmaneuvered and blitzed by Holland , and he is not even in the Hypersonic area

 

[Triple Accel 555]

She does, she can literally grant people the names of the KoTR which boosts them to those levels, she explicitly has Marmydose which is stronger than Excalibur's base strength and can create Barriers on the level of Anti-Planet degree without issues.

So she explicitly gets high scaling too.

Solar System Castoria .

Story give us explanation about Castoria who complete pilgrimage for one time is around Lostbelt King.

Since Castoria is around the level of a Lostbelt King, where would you rank her compared to previous Lostbelt Kings, such as Ivan and Zeus ?

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

Yeah...solar system level would be a lot. You'd have to reach for the best scaling possible. And it will be a reach.

L&T Thor = or > Zeus ≈hype≈ Odin (creates several stars out of Freya's body in a tie-in comic). Unless you think L&T Thor could barehand box Thanos, this means: EG Wanda > EG Thanos > L&T Thor. After that, it's a question of whether or not you think current Strange could mimic Wanda's attack against Thanos in EG.

This would, of course, mean that EG Thanos and Wanda were various levels of solar system level. Something I'm sure checks out.

The main reason I would say Castoria is Solar System is because her being is what ultimately helps create a new Excalibur at the very least once she rings all of the Bells. It's also primarily due to Marmydose and more because of how ridiculous her own power is in respective to other characters in the Lostbelt itself.

Solar System Castoria .

Story give us explanation about Castoria who complete pilgrimage for one time is around Lostbelt King.

Since Castoria is around the level of a Lostbelt King, where would you rank her compared to previous Lostbelt Kings, such as Ivan and Zeus ?

It really depends because the Lostbelt Kings tend to get downplayed alot despite even Ivan is rocking a Demonic Beast Mammoth on the level of, if not above, Gugulanna and Gugulanna is a monster in and of itself. Skadi herself was only working with a fraction of her power and yet even that gave off the same level of ether pressure as being in AoG Babylonia(which would be enough to instantly cause a Modern Human to explode).

Castoria would absolutely be on their level but the problem is it's hard to figure out where to put her past Zhenren QSH whose the weakest LB King despite being a Grand Servant in terms of power.

 

[Tablos]

Solar System Castoria .

Story give us explanation about Castoria who complete pilgrimage for one time is around Lostbelt King.

Since Castoria is around the level of a Lostbelt King, where would you rank her compared to previous Lostbelt Kings, such as Ivan and Zeus ?

Artoria caster keeps getting stronger , mind that Morgan has that same power in her first pilgrimage. Artoria later dies after the spam of Rhongominyads but later as Artoria Avalon she can use them fine.

As for firepower Artoria and Morgan should be in second place , only below Kukulkan.

 

[King of time]

Artoria caster is solar system+,At least in terms of firepower, it must be equal to or stronger than Zeus

 

[Triple Accel 555]

Artoria later dies after the spam of Rhongominyads but later as Artoria Avalon she can use them fine

Just correction.

Castoria still alive. She just dissapeared to Avalon. The one we summoned in chaldea is not real one.

She actually much stronger after Muramasa sacrifice himself to made excaliburn. This is confirmed by herself and merlin.

I agree about Artoria Avalon can use excaliburn in her summer version. This NP is same the one she fired to Cernunnos.

Section 28

Altria: Yes. The Heroic Spirit Senji Muramasa sacrificed himself for what he believed in.
Altria: The only reason I'm standing here now is because he insisted on performing the finishing touches himself.
Altria :Now that the sacred sword has been delivered to the planet's inner sea, the premise behind this Lostbelt has been overturned.
Altria : In time, it will be gently pruned away as though it never existed.
Altria : But before that happens, there's something you need to do.
Altria : Faerie Britain, the Lostworld made by the traitorous Morgan, is not part of this Lostbelt.
Altria : As such, the calamity it created is not subject to the Pruning Theoretical Phenomenon.
Altria : It represents a threat to humanity that you must defeat yourselves.
Altria : I'm back as the custodian of the sacred sword and stronger than ever!
Merlin : True. No matter how you slice it, you've definitely powered up. And wait. That magecraft theory...!
Merlin : Instead of Hero Creation, you have Sacred Sword Creation!?
Merlin : No fair! How did you get a skill like that!? Are you out to steal my thunder or something!?

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

Just correction.

Castoria still alive. She just dissapeared to Avalon. The one we summoned in chaldea is not real one.

She actually much stronger after Muramasa sacrifice himself to made excaliburn. This is confirmed by herself and merlin.

I agree about Artoria Avalon can use excaliburn in her summer version. This NP is same the one she fired to Cernunnos.

Nah, that's not correct. Who we summon Chaldea is Artoria Avalon who has Castoria's memories of LB6 in their entirety(This is why she has knowledge of things she shouldn't) who otherwise acts like Castoria anywhere else but her 3rd Ascension.

 

[Tablos]

Just correction.

Castoria still alive. She just dissapeared to Avalon. The one we summoned in chaldea is not real one.
Section 28

Castoria burned her own life in order to nuke Cernunnos , Avalon comes to help surpassing space time in order to reach the Abyssal void and help Chaldea

 

[Edward Nygma]

Cap. Marvel clearly can´t fight at the same speed as she fly ,

We don't separate combat and travel speed around here. If you can dodge stars and planets while crossing the cosmos, you can dodge punches from MFTL attacks.

also Thanos , the same guy who gets ganked by Guardians of the galaxy ? hell even Drax can harm his legs or Starlord can fly fine around him and that Stones Thanos.

We also don't low ball. Thanos has proven himself superior to some of the fastest characters in the verse. A few grunts overperforming doesn't take that away from him.

There is a obvious difference in MCU movies and MCU what ifs.

They are one canonical multiverse.

Strange still got outmaneuvered and blitzed by Holland , and he is not even in the Hypersonic area

He's at least MHS+ just from dodging debris from Thanos' moon throw. He can also react to Cul Obsidian who was able to keep pace with Iron Man's Mark 50.

 

[Gordo]

Blitzed and beated by Holland´s Spiderman.
Artoria vapes him

This just goes back to the Death of the Author debate

The MCU movies are clearly going off the “Wolverine and Spider-Man are faster than Hulk, Thanos, Thor, etc” thing the comics always state and show, but the OBD disagrees with those and chalks them off as PIS