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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 3: Laugh Hard with a Vengence

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vecna actions caused the lady of pain to rewrite the multiverse which is the in verse explanation for the transition from 2nd to 2rd edition
 
vecna actions caused the lady of pain to rewrite the multiverse which is the in verse explanation for the transition from 2nd to 2rd edition
Oh no I know that, I was referring to how he's so weak in Critical Role. Different avatar/aspect of him I'm assuming?
 
the adventurers fought his avatar and had help from other gods and divine weapons
So that was just an avatar of him in the Critical Role setting as opposed to the capital G God Vecna?

Because Vecna was a mortal man in the CR setting (iirc) who eventually become a god (but he was only a level 1 god so to speak there, hence why they managed to beat him and seal him away with the Prime Trammels), so I'm not sure how that relates to the wider D&D multiverse.

I do know that certain gods have weaker influence in certain settings though.
 
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Natural pokemon of the lowest end perhaps if we scale everyone up to Pokemon world physics (Where a gun is still apparently enough to freak out a person). People have to hunt, and before they tamed pokemon it would have to be the old fashioned way. It's just Pokemon humans >>> RL humans. Everything is just stronger there.

But any mid tier natural pokemon isn't gonna be phased by it, Sun/Moon show that the average pokemon like Tauros can slam through boulders like it's tuesday
 
Any mortal can ascend to godhood in D&D depending on their achievements or if they impress another god to be worthy of ascension. Since CR’s version of Vecna had just been granted godhood would be safe to say that he is a lesser deity, which is universal. Avatars of deities have limiters, most of them range from country level to planet level. Before CR Vecna ascended he was a level 20 Wizard.
 

If this wasn't SB, Scarlet Witch honestly should take considering the people she was easily to effortlessly floor and what they scale to... but it's SB, so this is massively dragged out for little reason.
 
Like seriously, look at this:

Wanda only goes tht far in the movies because she is a Mary Sue and the plot bends in her favor , Strange + all the mages being a complete retards is a proof of this

To say this is wrong is actually not understanding the actual issue people had with Multiverse of Madness and the issues of how everyone looked as another user basically stated, WANDA HERSELF was also downplayed in that movie and should have won even faster:


The big problem with the scaling of Multiverse of Madness(and most MCU movies by proxy) was that everyone was downplayed stupid hard for the sake of the plot(No one could use any of the actual powers we've seen even in the original Doctor Strange or in other MCU Media or especially with the What If? Saga... but we are supposed to see them as strong as the latter despite nothing at all translating from that to the movie, which was always the MCU's biggest problem).
 
So CR's version of Vecna is different from the OG Vecna then?
 


I like how he argues against Wanda "being immortal" but then goes full NLF on Kurama can ONLY be controlled by Sharingan Genjutsu because "no other Mind Control ability in Naruto can affect him" which is a massive stretch and then some.
 
So CR's version of Vecna is different from the OG Vecna then?
Yeah. There are some exceptions in certain D&D settings where gods have other versions of themselves, but gods, in general, interact with other settings but have different rankings depending on how famous and worshipped they are. Like they could be a lesser deity in one setting and a greater deity in another setting. Belief plays an essential role for them like, say, for example, Mystra. In Toril, via Forgotten Realms, they believe that Mystra knows everything regarding magic and is classed as a greater deity in that setting. In Krynn via Dragonlance, magic has nothing to do with her, and she would have to start at the bottom ladder as a lesser deity to work her way her influence. Takhisis and Tiamat might either be the same entity or different entities.
 
How strong is she actually?

I don't remember much about the kind of stuff she has up her sleeve.
 
Yeah, I remember that specific example being a thing but it was on the tip of my tongue.

So just to get this clear, it's not some guy conveniently also named Vecna, but just Vecna in CR's setting? Aka that specific "avatar" or w/e.
 
How strong is she actually?

I don't remember much about the kind of stuff she has up her sleeve.

I'm usually not into the MCU shit since I dropped off years ago but she's basically on the level of the Sorcerer Supreme, if not stronger with even a false Darkholme Book.
That means she should be capable of screwing with dimensions, Reality, bullshit tier illusions, the works.
She should collectively bend the Narutoverse over her knee and make it impotent. The only reason that the MCU looks weak is because unlike DCU, Marvel makes ZERO attempts to even try and make their shit look powerful and consistent which means feats can look absolutely pathetic.
 

what in the name of god
 
Vader better watch out if he knows whats good for him


 
CR Vecna is just a parallel universe counterpart to Forgotten Realm’s/Greyhawk’s Vecna. The other gods from CR are possibly also just parallel versions too.
That reminds me, there are multiple Prime Material Planes (and thus the Feywild/Shadowfell) for each respective setting right?

With the Elemental Planes and the Abyss/Nine Hells and the like being the same across settings or no?
 
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