Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 3: Laugh Hard with a Vengence

[Atem]

Superhot Protagonist vs V (Cyberpunk 2077)

They added multiple in-game references to 2077 in the latest patch. Not just bonus items, mind you, but actual side quests involving a character from Edgerunner telling you about David Martinez. You speak by text to Falco, one of the side characters from Edgerunners. You even get David...

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This same person is now arguing that V defeated Adam Smasher... because Adam had the runs thanks to Mexican food, and that this theory is more reasonable than Morgan's.

I agree with Morgan. I am losing it here. This is too much like what the fuck, bro.

 

[Masterblack06]

Ruphas Mafahl (AWLBA) Vs Dream of the Endless (DC)

Rules: Victory Conditions: Death. Motivation: Bloodlusted. Knowledge: None. Location: an empty Universe. Preparation: None. Versions: their strongest. Thousands meters apart. Pretty much just this, so, who wins?

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[Crimson Dragoon]

For OG

Genos (OPM) vs. Makuta Icarax (Bionicle)

vs. Location: Generic city Victory Conditions: Incapacitation Preparation: None Equipment: Standard equipment Bloodlust: No Knowledge: No Genos is in his strongest state. If Icarax is too fast, then speed will be equalized.

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[Stocking Anarchy]

Those live action Skyrim commercials really left me wanting to see some type of TV show or movie made of it




I’d prefer live action but with the latest travesty that is Rings of Power, an anime would be better if just for the fact that the Japanese will likely be faithful to the source material.

I think there's still good stuff being made in the West, it's just there's also a lot of corporate sludge too.

Ruphas Mafahl (AWLBA) Vs Dream of the Endless (DC)

Rules: Victory Conditions: Death. Motivation: Bloodlusted. Knowledge: None. Location: an empty Universe. Preparation: None. Versions: their strongest. Thousands meters apart. Pretty much just this, so, who wins?

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Still, he is not exactly a fighter, mayby they would go on and do something like the game with Lucifer in the show

This happens in the comics too, though it's not quite as easy to make out. During the word battle Dream and the Demon make stuff.

Um, the author approving of the work or allowing it to happen with their blessing like this? It's EXACTLY the same regardless.
I don't even remotely see how you can try and worm your way out of this when it's clear as day the author wants you to see the anime as to how he envisioned how Cyberpunk truly operates.

When Pondsmith said it was like seeing his brain in a bigscreen anime, he wasn't referring to the fight scenes. For a setting which is filled with violence and street fights.

How is it possible to be this dense? :mothman:

 

[seth]

gotrek gurnisson (warhammer age of sigmar) VS shalltear bloodfallen (overlord)

Well assuming this weird debate about meteors is over lets try to get this back on topic. Shalltear is supersonic, can tank city district busting explosions and was able to casualy slap away a 300 meter long tendril weighing about a thousand metric tons at the very least. My knowledge of WHF...

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spell literally says it pulls a meteor but overlord fans no it creates rock and other stuff just because

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

When Pondsmith said it was like seeing his brain in a bigscreen anime, he wasn't referring to the fight scenes. For a setting which is filled with violence and street fights.

How is it possible to be this dense? :mothman:

Like that doesn't even begin to make sense to me as you have to go well beyond the typical reach to even hit that level.
SB does that shit with the Nasuverse too and pretend they are somehow under the same rules as any other Anime/Manga adaptation despite:

1. Nasu and Takeuchi(who is also one of the lore makes of the Nasuverse) has gone at length actually describing the differences between the anime, movies and manga and even endorsed the changes themselves at many points. Various other authors under them for the other major adaptations like Fate Apocrypha's Anime and Manga to the LN have ALSO done the same thing, even encouraging the changes on purpose.

2. There is literally an in-universe mechanic made that there is literally many, many different possibilities that can happen in the timeline that number well into the thousands in that one stretch and Tsukihime, Fate/Stay Night, Fate/Extra and Fate/Extella explicitly canonized these various routes, endings both Good AND Dead Ends all at once and Nasu explicitly states all 3 Routes of F/SN is canon and Hollow Axtraxia explicitly shows all 3 are canon by having all 3 timelines smash into each other at once due to a hilarious error.

Like no wonder they will pretend the authors' word suddenly means nothing when this is a well-known facet of Nasu's works and they ignore this.

spell literally says it pulls a meteor but overlord fans no it creates rock and other stuff just because

The hilarious part is if you actually read the passage for it? The Meteor spell is absolutely garbage as it was barely able to destroy the Wall it hit...

 

[seth]

The hilarious part is if you actually read the passage for it? The Meteor spell is absolutely garbage as it was barely able to destroy the Wall it hit...

which one the overlord or the warhammer one

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

which one the overlord or the warhammer one

Overlord.

The falling meteor slashed through the sky and hit the wall, where it burst into an explosion. A thunderous roar echoed all around. The massive shockwave flattened everything it touched and shattered the wall. As the sand and dirt thrown up by the shockwave of the explosion begin falling back to earth, the dust slowly began to settle. What it revealed was the remains of the broken wall, blasted to smithereens, and drifting smoke. After looking at the devastated fortifications, there was no need to think about what had happened to the soldiers stationed there.

It's the same manner in which they constantly use the "City District Busting" as something major... when in Overlord, the City it happened in was extremely small:

Nazarick vs All Singularity,Psudo Singularity,Lostbelt Gauntlet

As an overlord fan. I find this wank appalling. The "meteor spell" that was used only destroyed a city wall at most. At most it would crack/break something a like single petal of Emiya's Rho Aias. Demiurge literally notes that some of people (workers) that invaded the Tomb could literally...

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The small city of Lloyds had originally been home to less than 20,000 people, but after gathering the people from the liberated camps, there were more than 150,000 people here now

And characters can literally walk from one end to the other without much issue:

Everyone in the squad was to take their families and head to the east gate, because if the enemy attacked, it was more likely that they would attack from the west gate. After that, they would form up at the east gate, and if there were demons outside the east gate, they would climb the walls near the east gate and attack them.

....

Neia and the Sorcerer King moved as though they were skimming along the ground. They did not leave the surface except to soar over crowds of people, who had descended into chaos, because they could not get a grip on the situation. The reason for that was because flying in the air without cover made them very obvious, and if there were demons about, they might be subjected to attack spells from all directions

This had originally been a fountain that regularly sprayed water for the citizens' leisure. However, water no longer flowed through here after the demihumans had wrecked it. There were no plans to restore it for the time being, and the surroundings looked very austere

Meaning that "City District Busting"... would basically be about a few miles... at best. Which would barely scratch MCB.

 

[Flowering Knight]

SB be really be pushing that "certain material isn't canon" for series when technically even the doujins are canon to fate :doge

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

SB be really be pushing that "certain material isn't canon" for series when technically even the doujins are canon to fate :doge

In a hilarious sense... that is true lol.
Wouldn't be the craziest thing authors have done with their properties.

 

[Stocking Anarchy]

Like that doesn't even begin to make sense to me as you have to go well beyond the typical reach to even hit that level.
SB does that shit with the Nasuverse too and pretend they are somehow under the same rules as any other Anime/Manga adaptation despite:

1. Nasu and Takeuchi(who is also one of the lore makes of the Nasuverse) has gone at length actually describing the differences between the anime, movies and manga and even endorsed the changes themselves at many points. Various other authors under them for the other major adaptations like Fate Apocrypha's Anime and Manga to the LN have ALSO done the same thing, even encouraging the changes on purpose.

2. There is literally an in-universe mechanic made that there is literally many, many different possibilities that can happen in the timeline that number well into the thousands in that one stretch and Tsukihime, Fate/Stay Night, Fate/Extra and Fate/Extella explicitly canonized these various routes, endings both Good AND Dead Ends all at once and Nasu explicitly states all 3 Routes of F/SN is canon and Hollow Axtraxia explicitly shows all 3 are canon by having all 3 timelines smash into each other at once due to a hilarious error.

Like no wonder they will pretend the authors' word suddenly means nothing when this is a well-known facet of Nasu's works and they ignore this.



The hilarious part is if you actually read the passage for it? The Meteor spell is absolutely garbage as it was barely able to destroy the Wall it hit...

Ironic because usually SB will take all WOG comments over feats (like they do with Worm and OPM).

Then when it's something they don't like they do a complete 180. Made worse by the fact that they dismiss WOG statements that actually know what they're talking about while accepting Wildblow wanking his own setting so as not to loose.

Yeah WOG isn't always right and death of the author is a thing, but in a lot of cases the writer actually does know what he/she is talking about.

 

[Stocking Anarchy]

Also ironic that SB downplay Cyberpunk and DnD as they're both TTRPGs. Infinite stats Adam Smasher for realz.

 

[Paxton]

I love how he's fine with this being true, but Accelerator being able to fuck with black holes in another thread? Nah, not at all.

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

Ironic because usually SB will take all WOG comments over feats (like they do with Worm and OPM).

Then when it's something they don't like they do a complete 180. Made worse by the fact that they dismiss WOG statements that actually know what they're talking about while accepting Wildblow wanking his own setting so as not to loose.

Yeah WOG isn't always right and death of the author is a thing, but in a lot of cases the writer actually does know what he/she is talking about.

Like yes, Death of the Author exists and WoG isn't always correct but it's hilarious how they don't really understand when WoG is wrong(Like when it's clearly obvious they are, say pandering or being blatantly wrong vs. what they wrote themselves like with J.K. Rowling) but it's clearly obvious they love picking and choosing.

It's especially hilarious when it comes to Worm or OPM considering ONE and the artist seems to not even know the series they work on at times and Wildbow just blatantly makes shit up.

 

[Atem]

Ironic because usually SB will take all WOG comments over feats (like they do with Worm and OPM).

They flip-flop on it all the time. It is generally like this:

WOG agrees with their head-canon?

"IT'S ABSOLUTELY RIGHT! BEYOND ANY CRITICISM! AFTER ALL! IT IS THE WRITER!"

WOG tells them they are full of shit?

"Now lets slow down here. These pictures drawn by somebody who is not the writer indicate otherwise if I scale them using real world values. Just ignore that the writer told us that they those real world values are also different in this world he created."

Then when it's something they don't like they do a complete 180. Made worse by the fact that they dismiss WOG statements that actually know what they're talking about while accepting Wildblow wanking his own setting so as not to loose.

Yeah WOG isn't always right and death of the author is a thing, but in a lot of cases the writer actually does know what he/she is talking about.

It's often times 50/50 between writers. Sometimes they know what they're talking about. Other times their intent and the source material do not align at all. The Destroyer from VHD who absolutely sucks at destroying the universe for example, or Chris Farnsworth repeatedly saying nanosecond is being literal without understanding what that means. "Yes, I am being literal about nanoseconds but also they're not FTL." Some writers have a tendency towards brain farts.

 

[OtherGalaxy]

i am a big proponent of WoG but you really have to look at the big picture when you use it

I get not using authoral intent though because the issue isn't really whether the author is right or not it becomes "is my interpretation of the author correct" which is a lot harder to argue at best and just straight up agenda at worst

 

[Atem]

Also ironic that SB downplay Cyberpunk and DnD as they're both TTRPGs. Infinite stats Adam Smasher for realz.

Jesus Christ, seeing them unironically use tabletop gameplay mechanics is absolute cringe too. Especially considering how much they complain about gameplay mechanics.

 

[Atem]

Guts (Berserk) with Different Swords, how successful does he get?

Guts has the Berserker Armor; he gets the weapon at the beginning the Black Swordsman Arc 1. Puck is now a spren and living Shardblade (Stormlight Archive) 2. Frostmourne (World of Warcraft) 3. Stormbringer (Elric) 4. Nightblood (Stormlight Archive) 5. Dragnipur (Malazan) 6. All Black the...

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>Guts
>Stormbringer

Bro, do they even fucking know how evil it is? It's worse than the Godhand.

 

[Vespa Crabro]

even if you were just using game mechanics, the explanation is super simple

David's Sandy is purple rarity

Smasher is running around with all Legendaries

 

[Atem]

"All in all, it's just a better weapon than dragonslayer, and given that Guts blows Elric out of the water in terms of physicals, he could put the Sword to greater use."

Ah, that tells me everything I need to know about Sully. I was already confused by his shitty Moorcock thread that almost seems to intentionally cut out entire sections of various scenes, but now I get it. It's just another elaborate anti-feat thread on SB.