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Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 3: Laugh Hard with a Vengence

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Basically Excalibur sine I think one band = Excalibur was the comparison.

Uh no?
Excalibur used there was NOT Excalibur at full power or even at it's baseline 6+ seals.
It was just using the basic normal "Can literally disintegrate Grail Mud and not be destroyed by Dendera Light Bulb instantly" Excalibur.

You are making the same mistake I did by trying to compare things to things because if it's compared to Excalibur, it must be the full enchilada when it isn't like Calvarro Star or the Jeweled Sword that Rin had.
 
People in SB cannot understand scale at all...


They also misunderstand that Tiamat at this point(Especially in the Anime), is rocking energy levels that would make her actually SUPERIOR to Amaterasu(Episode 17 has her around 900,000,000, Amaterasu is almost at 400m according to Extella and where she should stack)... which heavily fits Goddess Rhongomyniad explicitly stating Tiamat should be as powerful, if not moreso, than Goetia.)

We know her Spirit Origin in the anime as Femme Fatale was about equal to Goetia's. Still not sure what to make of the Life Origin measure. It should be magical energy, but its labeled differently the same spirit origin was. Then you have to deal with how different entries have different power levels for their bullshit.

Like FSN, the Fuyuki Holy Grail is a Trillion. Nothing else ever listed comes close, but we know it must given while Grails can vary, they're still similar enough to be treated as a unit of measure by Davinci for Femme Fatale Tiamat.
The fact that Quetzalcoatl can make Tiamat flinch in pain and make her bend the knee at all when literally bringing the Sun did no damage(And break through 2 of her shields) WHILE her Divinity is gimped?
Yeah, Quetzalcoatl being seen as weaker than Dioscuri is beyond a joke.
More specifically, she busted through a shield or 2, fractured a horn, and forced her out of the sky even without a command spell's refueling. Honestly, its telling that Tiamat bothered to put up several layers worth of barriers she could reinforce on a whim. If Quetz' assault was no threat, she wasted all that power for no reason when she could have just face tanked the assault and asserted her dominance that way.
Honestly, the 4 you mentioned are the only ones that can even remotely deal with a Servant without dying and maybe Svin... though it will probably just be opponents around Faker's level without copious amounts of help. There's Ergo but he's more of a created Golem so...
Faker's not a bad benchmark honestly. Her stats are about as average as Amakusa's and her NP ranges from average to bullshit for the modern era.
I don't know if they're in Waver's class but in the sequel novel there's two guys, one with the Noble Phantasms and Authority of Sun Wukong, Set and one other unknown god , and the other guy with that of Typhon and Zeus. So probably them.
Well, that sounds like some fucking overkill for combinations even in an age of decline :skully

Also heard it sounds like the next volume is setting up the Van-Fem Casino incident referenced in HA? :hm

Now with more Flat, because he exists now.
 
We know her Spirit Origin in the anime as Femme Fatale was about equal to Goetia's. Still not sure what to make of the Life Origin measure. It should be magical energy, but its labeled differently the same spirit origin was. Then you have to deal with how different entries have different power levels for their bullshit.

Like FSN, the Fuyuki Holy Grail is a Trillion. Nothing else ever listed comes close, but we know it must given while Grails can vary, they're still similar enough to be treated as a unit of measure by Davinci for Femme Fatale Tiamat.

I think it's more the measure of how Fuyuki's Holy Grail got that strong through going through a HGW that was finished but didn't get the chance to make the wish, causing it to carry over.

More specifically, she busted through a shield or 2, fractured a horn, and forced her out of the sky even without a command spell's refueling. Honestly, its telling that Tiamat bothered to put up several layers worth of barriers she could reinforce on a whim. If Quetz' assault was no threat, she wasted all that power for no reason when she could have just face tanked the assault and asserted her dominance that way.

That's true. Most likely she got her ass saved hardcore due to Quetzalcoatl having to go through all of that and not just hitting her dead on. Tiamat, even in her Unleashed Form, had to have had a reason to even create barriers against that attack.

Faker's not a bad benchmark honestly. Her stats are about as average as Amakusa's and her NP ranges from average to bullshit for the modern era.

Of course, that's why I used her as that basis. Enough that tangling with her at all puts you in a great league but still strong enough that she can kill you with a good kick in one hit, see that Executor that was able to stand well against her.
 
I think it's more the measure of how Fuyuki's Holy Grail got that strong through going through a HGW that was finished but didn't get the chance to make the wish, causing it to carry over.
I mean, Gil argued that the Fuyuki fire was essentially Kirei's wish given form. It was vaguely... somewhat? damaged? by Artoria and used some of its power to cause the havoc that led the birth of Gilgamesh's proof of concept Shirou Emiya (not that he seems to acknowledge that :maybe)

Yes indeed, let All the World's Evils determine who of Humanity has the worth to survive after culling, happens to have a future Counter Guardian that Herakles in a brief moment of sanity mourned he wasn't sane enough to fight skill to skill survive the carnage by pure random chance.
That's true. Most likely she got her ass saved hardcore due to Quetzalcoatl having to go through all of that and not just hitting her dead on. Tiamat, even in her Unleashed Form, had to have had a reason to even create barriers against that attack.
I mean, I foresee having caused more damage, but I don't see it having been the end there :hm

Probably wouldn't have needed Gorgon/Medusa Lily's sacrifice anyway.
Of course, that's why I used her as that basis. Enough that tangling with her at all puts you in a great league but still strong enough that she can kill you with a good kick in one hit, see that Executor that was able to stand well against her.
Honestly feel like Luvia's the odd man out of the group though either way. Gray, Flat, and Rin have circumstances that'd let them hit outside their weight class. Luvia's just Rin's equal or marginal superior in jewel magecraft (at least respective to FSN era bullshit, I haven't heard how she stacks up to her psuedo-Rho Aias and projected jewel bullshit).
 
I mean, Gil argued that the Fuyuki fire was essentially Kirei's wish given form. It was vaguely... somewhat? damaged? by Artoria and used some of its power to cause the havoc that led the birth of Gilgamesh's proof of concept Shirou Emiya (not that he seems to acknowledge that :maybe)

Yes indeed, let All the World's Evils determine who of Humanity has the worth to survive after culling, happens to have a future Counter Guardian that Herakles in a brief moment of sanity mourned he wasn't sane enough to fight skill to skill survive the carnage by pure random chance.

Yeah, that's what I'm going with as it seems more or less odd that Fuyuki's Grail got that strong but in F/Z, it's seen as a typical Holy Grail but in F/SN, it became a Greater Grail so...

I mean, I foresee having caused more damage, but I don't see it having been the end there :hm

Probably wouldn't have needed Gorgon/Medusa Lily's sacrifice anyway.

Basically, probably would have done some actual damage.

Honestly feel like Luvia's the odd man out of the group though either way. Gray, Flat, and Rin have circumstances that'd let them hit outside their weight class. Luvia's just Rin's equal or marginal superior in jewel magecraft (at least respective to FSN era bullshit, I haven't heard how she stacks up to her psuedo-Rho Aias and projected jewel bullshit).

That's the weird thing but Luvia does show up in Strange Fake too, so she could get something to make her rivals with Rin again on that level.
 

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>Blake can outspeed Chai
>Blake can just keep hitting Chai till she wins

They really don't get that Chai literally forces people to play by his beat AND he can manipulate Metal at that... and Blake isn't even that fast, they really don't understand that you need to be INSANELY fast to be unreactable and Blake at her fastest is not close to pull that against Chai.

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Mook91 should be banned from any VS. discussion period as well as anyone else who holds these dumbass views, plain and simple.
..Aren't the lasers Chai dodges like, straight up legit lasers? :hm
 

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Bro was so angry he erased an entire month from the calendar. Just cause he hated elves that much. He is the only person who hates elves more than the redguards or nords.
 
Bro was so angry he erased an entire month from the calendar. Just cause he hated elves that much. He is the only person who hates elves more than the redguards or nords.
He's even bloodlusted so he's just gonna dunk people out of existenc3
 

Of course Mook91 says this retarded shit.
 

Of course Mook91 says this retarded shit.
It's weird how SB goes with prediction/aim-dodging/aim-dodging even when someone explicitly reacts to something after the fact. Like the fact someone has those kind of abilities means we can completely ignore what we actually see happen. It's completely autistic, and requires us to ignore any visuals entirely.
 
It's weird how SB goes with prediction/aim-dodging/aim-dodging even when someone explicitly reacts to something after the fact. Like the fact someone has those kind of abilities means we can completely ignore what we actually see happen. It's completely autistic, and requires us to ignore any visuals entirely.
they once claimed Kars moving his arms in front of his face to block a laser wasn’t ftl because if he was truly ftl he wouldn’t have been hit by the laser…that he blocked :giogio
 
People UNAMINOUSLY saying Stark beats Quilge without Allon.
What the fuck am I reading here? :breh
Starrk>Baraggan>>Harribel>>Ayon>>Quilge.
Yes idiots, this would have been true if that was pre-skip Allon who fought Quilge...except it isn't.

It actually goes like this
Post-skip Harribel > Post-skip Allon > Quilge > Stark > Barragan > Pre-skip Harribel > Pre-skip Allon.

But of course
"Hurr Durr novel statements (that are blatantly contradicted by manga feats, but lets ignore that) say Top Espada > Mid Nazis and Grimmjow/Harribel still weaker than Barragan"

Yet even if all that were actually true and lined up with the manga (it doesn't), Quilge is NOT a Mid Tier Nazi. Feat wise he's easily in the high tier range, only really matched or topped by the likes of Bazz, Gremmy or Royd among the non-Elites.

The pre-skip Espada wank will never die it seems. :kobeha
 
they once claimed Kars moving his arms in front of his face to block a laser wasn’t ftl because if he was truly ftl he wouldn’t have been hit by the laser…that he blocked :giogio
I know that we are supposed to be lenient with fiction, but he ain't wrong. Sure, Kars' feat isn't debunked just because "If he was FTL he wouldn't be hit by laser in the first place." due to bruh fiction. But realistically speaking if he can go FTL, he can't be hit by laser. Unless I am missing some context like the Laser being FTL or Kars not finding the laser dangerous so he blocked it with his hand.
 
I know that we are supposed to be lenient with fiction, but he ain't wrong. Sure, Kars' feat isn't debunked just because "If he was FTL he wouldn't be hit by laser in the first place." due to bruh fiction. But realistically speaking if he can go FTL, he can't be hit by laser. Unless I am missing some context like the Laser being FTL or Kars not finding the laser dangerous so he blocked it with his hand.

The beam was launched from point blank unexpectedly, and iirc he was already off balance. Raising his arm in an attempt to block it seems like a natural response.
 
..Aren't the lasers Chai dodges like, straight up legit lasers? :hm
I believe so, either way, Chai should be able to take on the entire Team of RWBY at once and win effortlessly.
Yeah, there's a museum in the game that have displays that show you some info about most of the enemies in the game. The basic Gunner enemy display says that it's arm cannon is just an extremely powerful flashlight, being able to shine with over 7 billion lumens, and was made to help you around the house in the darkest of places.

The first time I saw that museum, I thought the mundane purposes for their killer robots on the displays were just to be funny but also to show how bad they were hiding their evil plans, but once you reach the end of the game and see what Kale's plan for SPECTRA was, you realize they were made for those mundane purposes. :skully
 
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