Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 3: Laugh Hard with a Vengence

[Xhominid The Apex]

I thought he was a small country since a) He is a third-class mage. And clocktower's good mage (i.e worth their salt.) can take a country's army and win.

They are and Shirou at his element is generally stronger than them.

b) God's hand was ranked by you guys to need island+ to take one life.

Not in VSB's case:

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His Durability as a whole is just Island level... when that would only account for Bypassing God Hand, not generally killing him(unless he's caught off guard as how Rin took off a life)
Side Note: It's ridiculous that Heracles doesn't even have his feat against Surtr here despite the fact that he legit did hold it off without assistance for a second.

c) Didn't you say Rin is at country level during HGW, and Shirou should be below her.

I think she's at Island+ and weaker than Shirou at that point(Outside of Jeweled Sword) and it's Adventures where she gets that level.

 

[OtherGalaxy]

Major problems with these kinda things are always: Do you take stars for what they are or reject them for consistency's sake? I am plenty sure there was that one mage in the Elder scroll who destroyed a dimension containing things similar to stars (It has a night sky view.), VS takes it at Uni+ while SB doesn't since in elder scroll, stars are weird with possessing infinite mass and shits. This is also why SB'ers heavily doubt Star+ Radaha, (which initially was fine since Elden ring cosmology is weird, what's with star, falling star etc, but I am still pissed for rejecting that Day-Night Shift thing.) Even Persona 5 anime had palaces containing the entire constellation and night sky.

well in her case we apparently see her people create tiny stars which is what puts the ones in her dimension into question

radahn’s is a different case entirely because what we see in the cutscene are just meteors but we know from the phase transition he can move real celestial bodies, and “stars” refers to a lot of different things in elden ring, including their actual sun. So unless dlc proves otherwise we assume a sun is a regular star by default for any series eg Naruto or One Piece’s suns are also just assumed to be regular sized

 

[Welsh_Dragon]

Third class mages don't usually have the ability to trace/copy paste Servant stats.

Shirou does, despite being one.

I'll let you figure out the difference.

Imma out of there. Nice to see you!
*Proceeds to shut the door quietly and run away*

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

Imma out of there. Nice to see you!
*Proceeds to shut the door quietly and run away*

I mean, he is telling you the most obvious thing ever...
Shirou is obviously stronger than those Mages because mastering Projection the way he did it puts him beyond their max capabilities outside of those rare few.
It's like how Darius was able to do the same shit he did or what happened in Post-LB7 was done due to another absurd use of normally bottom tier Magecraft put into it's absolute apex.

People tend to forget that Mages saw Projection and Substitution as worthless until the right circumstances happen and boom, they become overpowered as shit. It's also why Touko tends to scare the shit out of everyone once they figure out her secret due to how such a simple concept is taken to it's absolute limit... tends to freaking people out.

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

It has less to do with facts and more to do with she scares the shit out of me. She sounds like my ex, who as you can guess scared the shit out of me when she was mad. It's just habitual instinct.

Type-Rey is a guy, my man LMFAO.

 

[Welsh_Dragon]

Type-Rey is a guy, my man LMFAO.

Really? I thought maddie and Rye were females? Sorry, I will delete the post.

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

Really? I thought maddie and Rye were females? Sorry, I will delete the post.

If Rey is a girl, then that is a master class fooling act even before I came to the OBD.
But no, he just likes Alice that's why he has her pic there from Witch On The Holy Night.

 

[Proto234]

She really isn't. It's just she doesn't go straight into murder with him immediately but will do so later if he screws up again.
And again it's not like it will matter, one Knight is more than enough for anything in Naruto.

I dunno, the only knight that I can see beating Kaguya solo is Percy and Galahad
Others may need teamwork (especially Gareth since I don't think she can beat Kaguya solo)

People tend to forget that Mages saw Projection and Substitution as worthless until the right circumstances happen and boom, they become overpowered as shit. It's also why Touko tends to scare the shit out of everyone once they figure out her secret due to how such a simple concept is taken to it's absolute limit... tends to freaking people out.

Well tbh Mages considers Projection and Substitution doesn't help their goal to reach the Root

 

[Welsh_Dragon]

My mistake, Type-Rey (I don't have the guts to tag them.) Sorry.

 

[Welsh_Dragon]

If Rey is a girl, then that is a master class fooling act even before I came to the OBD.
But no, he just likes Alice that's why he has her pic there from Witch On The Holy Night.

Who?

 

[Type-Rey]

Really? I thought maddie and Rye were females? Sorry, I will delete the post.

Bruh,

I'm a grown ass Eastern European man.

I'm pretty much the furthest thing apart.

ha


And what's with the weird "scared" RP ?

I may be a dick, but aside from laughing at you ...the fuck else am i gonna do

 

[Welsh_Dragon]

Bruh,

I'm a grown ass Eastern European man.

I'm pretty much the furthest thing apart. ha

No comments, I have embarrassed myself enough for the night.

 

[Xhominid The Apex]

I dunno, the only knight that I can see beating Kaguya solo is Percy.
Others may need teamwork (especially Gareth since I don't think she can beat Kaguya solo)

Nah, it's actually overblown how strong or weak certain Knights are(There is a difference but it's not a huge enough one for it to truly be a difference. Percival still died despite being against the traitors and wanting to stop the Lion King, Artoria can canonically beat the brakes off of every other Knight with hilarious ease if she wants and Bedivere is the weakest but he can still stomp the shit out of most Servants even before he got the Excali-Arm).
The big issue is that Kaguya... is a massive idiot who throws her power around and has base tactics and that's it. It's easy for a Knight to overwhelm her once she starts running low.

Well tbh Mages considers Projection and Substitution doesn't help their goal to reach the Root

Despite what it seems, most Mages don't give a fuck about the Root and just want to do their own goals and have their successors pass it on(Marisbury Animusphere is the biggest example who had a ticket to the Root right there... but wanted to fund CHALDEAS for his actual goal instead... but there are many other Mages who look for different goals).
Hell, Darius wants to "Save the World and become a God", Rin just seems to do whatever she wants and Sakura just plain never wanted to be in the game at all.

Who?

Alice Kuonji

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[Derpmaster9000]

Not against the idea of Star level Dinos

Something that the trashy canon fanfic DBS manga outdid already with their dinos. Don't know why both Kishi and Toyo decided to bring in dangerous dinos roughly around the same time, but it is what it is.

 

[Randomdude]

Sando Aqua Vs Ainz (Overlord)

So, who wins, the bigger fish, or the bone salaryman? Sando Aqua feats: Wookiepedia Ainz feats: A load of bullshit pay to win stuff that I'm not going to bother typing out. In the event of an Ainz stomp, Sando gains the powers and disposition of the goddess Aqua (Konosuba). In the unlikely...

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Did someone just want to abuse a fish? Like ignoring round 2 for a moment why?

 

[Paxton]

High Priest (Toaru Majutsu No Index) vs Grand Priest (Dragon Ball Super)

VS Conditions - Preparation: None - Bloodlust: On - Knowledge: None - Win by K.O., incapacitation or death. - The battle begins in a neutral place - Starting distance: 50 meters - Equipment: both sides have standard equipment (if any) - Canon: Any type of feats or continuity for both are...

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why the fuck is he going on about tangram scaling being non-canon when any feats/continuity are allowed from the OP

 

[Paxton]

Kukulkán (FGO) vs Yamamoto (Bleach) SPOILERS!

You mean Meuniere saying that even ORT shouldn't be able to cross 10km in seconds? Which again makes mockery out of LS or FTL servant anything. He is looking at what's most likely strongest thing in Nasuverse and thinks it can't reach 0.00003 of c.

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[OtherGalaxy]

what does sb even consider bleach speed to be just curious
haven't actually seen it placed in any bleach threads ive seen there, one guy even said he considered it the fastest of the hst but didn't know how fast it was

 

[ChaosTheory123]

His Durability as a whole is just Island level...

Divide Excalibur by 12, that is his durability for a single life.

Maybe I don’t explain it well, but I’m not sure why you keep to island anything. That’s a holdover from when we were stuck scaling from Agartha in 2017 or 2018.

You’re literally underselling shit at least a million to a billion times over because order of magnitude is hilariously beyond the scale any author ever thinks in.

 

[Paxton]

Divide Excalibur by 12, that is his durability for a single life.

Maybe I don’t explain it well, but I’m not sure why you keep to island anything. That’s a holdover from when we were stuck scaling from Agartha in 2017 or 2018.

You’re literally underselling shit at least a million to a billion times over because order of magnitude is hilariously beyond the scale any author ever thinks in.

He was referring to where VSB has Herc sit at though, unless I'm misreading