And what is this? In your personal opinion.
What is what ?
What you posted ?
A description .
You still don't have any answer as to why these two are the only Eyes that have such a description.
It isn't really , someone else just mentioned that Medusa's eyes have a similar description. Not word for word, but similar.
Only the important part, which said that her eyes, despite being only Jewel are of the highest rank. I know that you tried to worm yourself out of that by noting that the description didn't include the second sentence but that's literally irrelevant since we already know that both Jewel and Rainbow were incredibly rare and powerful from other sources, so you literally have nothing.
And i don't need any answer because again :
1. The burden of proof is on you to prove your shit.
2. Even if they have the same exact description, Distortion is not clasified.
You still don't have any answer as to why these two are the only Eyes that have such a description.
A superpower among superpowers, a rare article among rare articles.
Adressed this,
f they were the same in everything, they would not be two different Eyes.
If you don’t want to answer why these two eyes have a group of characteristics unique to them, then at least don’t waste my time.
I have already answered.
What do you expect ?
A wall of text ? I don't need one.
No. Musashi doesn't need any specific understanding, Ophelia doesn't need to understand Surtr, and Medusa doesn't need to understand Saber.
Just seeing is enough for them. They do not require awareness of the existence of anything.
.... Why the fuck am i wasting time with you ... ?
Ophelia does need to perceive the fucking posbilities of someone and pin one in place. That's literally how her fucking abilitiy works.
Without perception, her ability wouldn't exist.
You literally have no idea about anything .
Могу попробовать. Глаза Искажения и Глаза Восприятия Смерти - единственные Глаза которым требуется именно что осознание существования какого либо предмета. Если этого осознания нет, то и их способность не будет работать, как к примеру отсутствие концепции Смерти на Абсолюте или же не существующий ТАТАРИ.
Like i've said, this is not the case.
You're talking about limitations here , which yeah, both have but it's not specific only to them.
In both cases, the limitations of the Eyes are not mentioned, but rather of Asagami Fujino.
Fujino, weilder of the Eyes of Distorion. A user that is already >>> normal users due to her origin being awaken.
She's the best example we have and we only work with what we have. She can't do the shit i've mentioned so it's safe to assume that the Eyes can't do that.
Everything else is conjecture.
If you wanna say that someone stronger would be able to affect that shit, prove it.
Yes. However, this suggests that simply saying: “These eyes do not have such and such a rank” cannot be done here.
It works both ways.
Ophelia's eyes are of Jewel rank
Yeah, they are, i didn;t check.
Medusa's eyes too. But at the same time, their action, radius, abilities and strength are different. Which is why I didn't understand your argument about abilities.
Yeah they are different.
But their abilities represent this : "
or Jewel and Rainbow ranks, it could be assumed that they didn't just possess powerful magecraft, but instead could actualize Mysteries that were otherwise entirely impossible to replicate in any era.
They could be said to be an exercise of the Authority of the Divine.
(If Mystic Eyes of Death Perception actually exist, maybe as the authority of Balor...)"
And how the fuck do you not understand my argument about abilities ? When trying to ascertain what is superior , what the fuck do you look at ? At their ranks/clasification and at their abilities. You analyze them and go from there.
Rainbow. Since this is the description:
Among the many superpowers designated as Mystic Eyes, this is one of the highest grade. A superpower among superpowers, a rare item among rare items.
Only found in the two of them. Yes, even the next sentence is also somewhat similar to each other
Then show me where is it classified as being Rainbow, cause eyes, that are actually in that rank have been classified as such.
Like MEDOP and Archtype's Eyes.
And what false information did I submit?
Trying to use skills systems to justify shit and pretending like only Distortion and MEODP need to perceive things.
This is exactly why I can do it. Their rank has not been classified, which is why understanding the approximate rank requires comparison with something already known.
But this directly contradicts the second attempt you made by presenting the rank of Distortions to be above the MEDOP.
And assuming that their rank is indeed the same,
And this also contradicts your example of Medusa and Ophelia.
I can literally use the same words you did :
"Ophelia's eyes are of Jewel rank. Medusa's eyes too. But at the same time, their action, radius, abilities and strength are different. Which is why I didn't understand your argument about abilities."
Replace Ophelia with Shiki and Medusa with Fujino .
MEODP and Distortion have different action,radius, abilities ...etc so once again you're shooting yourself in the foot
You're using my argument which you said you don' t understand which notes that you actually understand it but it was inconvenient for you to accept it cause it didn't help your own argument.
See ?
Nope. I simply used this system as an example that in the absence of classification, her skill would be rated higher than Ryoga's.
Does this mean her eyes are higher? No. I never stated this.
No, you didn't say that, you never made the distinction of the skill itself.
I did, i made the distinction when i called your bullshit.
You have 0 honest bones in your body.
No. This example works great.
It doesn't actually for the reasons i provided.
And? It’s just that if you think like that, then Arcueid’s Eyes are even cooler than the Eyes of Death Perception, because Shiki Tohno said that he wouldn’t have a chance against her Eyes.
I was providing an example of one set of eyes directly interacting with the ability of another.
Your example has none of that, so it's worthless.
Not that it matters since Arcueid herself can't handle MEODP all that well either.
And by the way, if her ability had not worked, would it have turned out that the Eyes of Distortion were a rank higher or what?
That's irrelevant. We're talking about concrete shit that actually happened.
Distortion's eyes have not been classified due to which it is stupid.
Well, that's your issue really cause you have to prove that they're at the same level.
By the way, I haven't actually found a statement that the Eyes of Distortion cannot influence concepts.
The only clue is a question from a nameless fan.
Nasu didn't correct it so the inference that the fan was correct works, not to mention that he actually talked about bounded fields which are lower on the scale so...
Also :
"Because, since the distortion requires perceiving
an existence on its entirety, it can’t bend the ground or
the being known as a city. Also, because once the distortion is activated, you can avoid damage by moving away from its area."
By the way, firstly, the Eyes of Death Perception cannot influence something that does not have the concept of death
There are ways around that as Tohno has demonstrated
secondly, they cannot influence something that, according to their owners, is already dead,
Duh, since they bring death.
it cannot influence something that does not yet exist like TATARI.
Some of these things can be done with Eyes of Distortion.
So would you say that Distortion would be able to kill Tatari then ?
Oh. And according to your words, I am giving out false information.
What false information you dullard ?
It's literally stated in the Tsukihime Remake.
Read into the answer. Eyes don't have such limitations, Fujino does.
Fujino has the eyes tho and i already adressed this.
And to be more precise, that's all.
No, i could also take a look at the beings they have affected and the beings who want them which would not put distortion in a good light also, but i don't really need to, cause i have more than enough already.
The main problem is that we only see this ability briefly and its user was, in fact, just a high school student who knows nothing about Majecraft or the supernatural in general. And she discovered her ability a maximum of a few days before the battle with Shiki.
It doesn't matter, we work with what we have and again, she's >>> other users due to the reason i and others have brought up.
If new showings come up, i'll be happy to change my stance. Until then tho.. yeah , sorry.
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