Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 4 Part 2: Electric Boogaloo

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I said that fairy tail at continental level is the best, Anyway, servant will stomped Fairy Tail
 
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Proto234

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Dude, the team involves Tezca (who for some reason isn’t brought up in the discussion) who can solo not only FT but also half of his own team.

There is no scenario where FT can win
 

Salfarc

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Proto234 said:
Dude, the team involves Tezca (who for some reason isn’t brought up in the discussion) who can solo not only FT but also half of his own team.

There is no scenario where FT can win
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I think the team supposed to be per class and not all in 1 go?

So Tez is going in solo there.

Unless its all of them at the same time? Yea fuck FT dies. Tez aint the only one, Quetz also there.

And R S is downplaying Fate again in that thread, he just got improvement and now he regress.
 

Xhominid The Apex

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I'm not sure what took you so long to get that because I said it myself...

It's not even Tezca in there that can solo the whole verse, it's literally half of the individual team members itself that can do it. And again, I keep telling you that you shouldn't believe these people are capable of growing at all because they NEVER grow, they will only choose what they want to win and pick any means to do so.

That is how the game is played in Spacebattles.
 

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Because Meltryllis' is literally made of water... that's why she was able to be unaffected by Tristan's shockwaves. Again, object permanence refuses to ever be a thing for certain SB members. That's why the comparison is used in the first place.

Also, stop ignoring that Cal was amped. I've said it multiple times now.
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When in the Seven Layers of Hell was Caladbolg ever stated to be amped in Agartha?! Are you gonna say it was the Sacred Treasure? That's just a Command Spell and that was used for Kid Fergus to stay ALIVE stepping into Wu Zeitan's Poison Lake. When Caladbolg started engorging on the Magical Energy in the area of Laputa? ALL Noble Phantasms do that! That's exactly how Cu uses Gae Bolg!

There is not a single time it was ever stated to be amplified by anything, especially with the fact that Kid Fergus literally doesn't have access to it and is in a weaker Spirit Origin regardless.

None of these rocks are on route to hit him, so even if they turned to ash they wouldn't hit him;

And there's a solid bit of miniature rock right next to him not being vaporized;
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Wow, we are really being needlessly petty at this point? Like, he does know we can literally put that on animation errors right? Those exist and you can't try and play the downplaying game based on simple flubs when we see them literally seen rocks be vaporized just flying towards his area.

Shimousa is 1.5, after agartha. And again, agartha has normal humans be relevant in servant fights.
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I don't remember ANY normal Human being relevant in a fight outside of the resistance Christopher Columbus shooting the Sacred Treasure out of his hands...
That's supposed to be "relevant to a fight" to you?!

The fact that, even if Gawains NP can passively vaporize lakes that's only equal to Natsu's casual attack linked earlier in the thread.
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Which is what we will only use in any actual context because that's the only highest scaled feat we have of that.
 

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Transformers vs Nuclear Weapons

Like I said I know earlier stories featured a page long biography about Optimus Prime and various aspects of the early part of the war and I think it...
www.tfw2005.com

okay I know it was linked in the TF thread, and I haven't entirely forgotten the post you tagged @OtherGalaxy I've just put it on the back burner

but what??????
 

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King Hassan most likely cannot impose the concept of death on Andy.

He would have to demonstrate his ability to impose death, supersedes negator abilities, which I highly doubt anything in Fate can do.
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@Masterblack06 What does Andy's Undead scale the furthest towards in people being able to negate it? Because if King Hassan can give Tiamat the ability to die at the cost of his Grand Magical Energy and there's nobody in Undead Unluck that supercedes Tiamat, I don't get where this comes from...

EDIT: I'm seeing people say that the powers of the Negators are Universal wide but it seems to be on and off when it comes to the people USING the Negation themselves which again, is a whole ass different kettle of fish.
 

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Transformers vs Nuclear Weapons

The flaw in your argument (and anyone that believes that they could survive) is that a nuclear explosion is NOT a big flash of radioactive light, it's...
www.tfw2005.com

There are a lot of things wrong with that post, but the thing that stands out is that he said the UT can’t stand up to nukes

Cybertron is actually pretty explicit about its high power levels. Megatron and Starscream were outright said to be capable of destroying Earth. Galvatron and Starscream left a giant hole on a star-sized planet with their last clash. 99% of TF fans cannot be trusted to gauge the franchise’s feats.

The OBD remains the only site that even remotely knows where the setting stands in terms of versus debating
 

CrossTheHorizon

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The Master Rules can rewrite reality for the universe, and Andy can fuck them all over at the same time iirc.

It probably wouldn't apply if it were anyone else but Andy definitely scales above KH in this hyper-specific scenario
 

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i swear transformers fans are actually worse at tiering their own series than people who dont follow it
 

Cryso Agori

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Actually Andy should survive KH's Azreal.

Andy/Victor survived the destruction of the earth 101 times, his ability would also scale above rules like Galaxy, which made stars and galaxies, and scale to Sun's avatar as negation abilities like Unmove work on Sun. He'd also scale above Master Rules who they themselves are above rules like Galaxy.

Also during the Autumn arc, Andy's interpretation of Death changed, he used to think Death was when you stopped thinking, but from Fuuko he changed his interpretation to Death is when you are forgotten.
 

Cryso Agori

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Your going too easy on 'em lol I would've already posted Andy's higher level feats

Andy and Shen scale to Phase 2 Spoil, whose beams move at mach 260

UNDEAD UNLUCK feats and discussion thread

It's a pretty new Shonen Jump serialization that follows a world where there are people called "negators" whose powers negate certain things. It follows a girl named Fuuko Izumo with the power of "unluck". Whoever touches her(relative to her feelings towards said person)will experience unluck...
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Andy was also capable of dodging the UFO's laserbeams when he was fighting Gina.

UNDEAD UNLUCK feats and discussion thread

It's a pretty new Shonen Jump serialization that follows a world where there are people called "negators" whose powers negate certain things. It follows a girl named Fuuko Izumo with the power of "unluck". Whoever touches her(relative to her feelings towards said person)will experience unluck...
www.fanverse.org

Which Juiz would also scale too. You also have Andy reacting to Top at lightspeed during the Summer fight.

You also have the fact that the Season UMA's output enough power that it keeps the Earth from falling into the Sun, Union Members like Juiz and Victor and Master Rules would scale above, Andy making a Sunspot, Seal UMA riding a solar flare, etc.
 
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Xhominid The Apex

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At this point, I don't even understand the point of these threads anymore, especially since I know for a fact it was made because Farsith kept going all in with the NLFs and completely misunderstanding how shit works in VS. formats and how it even works in the series itself.



This is how it basically is by the writer's own pen and honestly the best question you can ask about anything that happens in Fairy Tail:

It's a NLF festival until it's suddenly not because characters can just power through shit because fuck you, power of friendship forever. It's not like the actual explanation makes anymore sense:



The second part doesn't make sense at all because the entire deal with the Tartoros is that they was made to kill Zeref to begin with and they all failed and Zeref casually killed Mard Geer and burnt the book. Natsu isn't THAT much more special than the other demons by "creation" and more of direct circumstances.
So again, it's literally just random bullshit and Natsu won because everything clicked into place at the right moment.

Ultimately in the end result, their immortality is shit and it's literally based on shit that can easily be overwhelmed and defeated in the Nasuverse and it's equivalent wouldn't work in Fairy Tail.
 
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