Circus of Humorous & Humiliating Arguments Part 4 Part 2: Electric Boogaloo

[Paxton]

No, she knows Hansa catch more than one bullet.

She is saying that Hansa catching more than one bullets doesn't matter, if he can catch one. So she is saying his speed is not that impressive because catching multiple bullets=catching one bullet for her.

She knows Hansa catch more than one bullet, she is just saying that catching like 12+ bullet is the same feat as catching 1 bullet. And therefore not that impressive compared to cutting 10k fish, according to her...

This is literally basic physics, holy shit.

Speed = distance / time.
Being able to move a greater distance over a specific period of time means you're faster.

In other words, catching multiple bullets is in fact a greater feat than only being able to move quick enough to catch one.

....obviously.

 

[King]

@Paxton

 

[Salfarc]

This is literally basic physics, holy shit.

Speed = distance / time.
Being able to move a greater distance over a specific period of time means you're faster.

In other words, catching multiple bullets is in fact a greater feat than only being able to move quick enough to catch one.

....obviously.

This is what she said:

I mean... yes? This seems pretty self explanatory because swinging more times requires more speed. The debate is not about whether or not he can react to assault rifle fire. There's more time between a rifle firing each bullet than there is time when the bullet's in the air, so as long as you can actually react to one bullet, one or a dozen doesn't matter. If he could swing a million times in a tenth of a second (for example), it would indicate that he's faster than just catching bullets out of the air.

So yes, she did say that. As illogical as it sounds. And 3 ppl like that. I don't think like matters that much but it does feels rather...shocking such irrational statement actually got some like.

 

[Paxton]

@Paxton

Stand proud, Kevin.

You are strong.

 

[Triple Accel 555]

https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/lostbelt-morgan-le-fey-f-go-vs-fairy-tail-universe.1140364/page-2

Why would attacking her mean the attacks automatically clash? They could just.... attack from a different angle.

There's invinsible people. Time stoppers. People who bend space. Very fast people. People who telepor

There are also the anti-magic people like Natsu and DS Gray, Burning/freezing magic, and the if you aren't this get fucked people like Hakune and Kyoka, who Freeze all skills/traits/abilities and completely manipulates sensory info, respectively.

That's a really nice feat from Fairy Tail. But they forgot that Servant itself can go faster than light, to the point someone like Melusine, who is capable of interstellar travel according to her profile, admits Morgan can fight her.

I forgot about time stoppers, then we get into debate whether Time Stop can be resisted by Servant ala Overlord vs Fate debate. As for the others, the answer is simple. Rhongomyniad attack range is huge, thats why.

@Salfarc You have good point about Rhongomyniad but here the feat about Morgan so far.

-Capable to use Water Mirror , an ability to send someone to somewhere or BFR. Accourding to Avalon le Fae synopsis in Mashu description this tecnique is send someone to past. As Chaldea servant she still can use this power during Sea Monster Crisis but choose not to because the rule of PPH is different compare to her lostbelt.

-Can rayshifting herself and habetrot to singularity in sea monster event and Da-Vinci is pissed with comment how Morgan rayshift herself without her permission.

-Can made clone strong as her original self.This is happen during she stood up from her throne in section 24.

-Berly describe her as Monster because of her ability such like teleportation and the others in section 14.

-Can sealed oppenent and mind rape them with Garden of Lost Will. This is cursed artifact that traps the target in a dream and one of Aesc trumph card. According to Artoria Caster in Section 21, it is a a cold and unforgiving Garden that whittles away the hearts of its visitors by stripping away their delusions and torturing them with self-loathing. The target can escape from it if they endure it until the end or if the artifact is smashed to pieces from the outside which is mashu can do in order to free Ritsuka and Castoria.

- In Summer event 2023 Morgan can create barrier that is hard to be destroyed by Circe, Taigong Wang, Skadi, and Medea. Only Merlin can do it, but he chooses not to help Ritsuka and the others.

- She can also perform magical plastic surgery and erased the memory. Tonelico used this to create a decoy while she made her escape in section 19. Her stage 2 voice lined dialogue 3 confirmed she can transform you into the Jewel or Worst turned you into the pig in level up 2.

 

[Proto234]

https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/lostbelt-morgan-le-fey-f-go-vs-fairy-tail-universe.1140364/page-2

That's a really nice feat from Fairy Tail. But they forgot that Servant itself can go faster than light, to the point someone like Melusine, who is capable of interstellar travel according to her profile, admits Morgan can fight her.

@Salfarc You have good point about Rhongomyniad but here the feat about Morgan so far.

-Capable to use Water Mirror , an ability to send someone to somewhere or BFR. Accourding to Avalon le Fae synopsis in Mashu description this tecnique is send someone to past. As Chaldea servant she still can use this power during Sea Monster Crisis but choose not to because the rule of PPH is different compare to her lostbelt.

-Can rayshifting herself and habetrot to singalurity in sea monster event and Da-Vinci is pissed with comment how Morgan rayshift herself without her permission.

-Can made clone strong as her original self.This is happen during she stood up from her throne in section 24.

-Berly desrcibe her as Monster because of her ability such like teleportation and the others in section 14.

-Can sealed oppenent and mind rape them with Garden of Lost Will. This is cursed artifact that traps the target in a dream and one of Aesc trumph card. According to Artoria Caster in Section 21, it is a a cold and unforgiving Garden that whittles away the hearts of its visitors by stripping away their delusions and torturing them with self-loathing. The target can escape from it if they endure it until the end or if the artifact is smashed to pieces from the outside which is mashu can do in order to free Ritsuka and Castoria.

- In Summer event 2023 Morgan can create barrier that is hard to be destroyed by Circe, Taigong Wang, Skadi, and Medea. Only Merlin can do it, but he chooses not to help Ritsuka and the others.

- She can also perform magical plastic surgery and erased the memory. Tonelico used this to create a decoy while she made her escape in section 19. Her stage 2 voice lined dialogue 3 confirmed she can transform you into the Jewel or Worst turned you into the pig in level up 2.

Don't forget, besides garden of lost will, she also has 3 other garden magic

Garden

Garden (庭(ガーデン)?) is a Spell from the Age of Gods that can only be used by the avatar of Mystery.[1] The Garden is regarded by Totorot as one of Aesc's trump cards, a Bounded Field that can trap nightmares.[2] It is also used by Proper Human History Morgan le Fay.[1] There are different kinds of...

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• Sweet Dreams (甘き夢)
• Dark Abyss (昏い淵くらふち)
• The Innocent (罪なきもの) - Also known as Garden of Avalon, is the tower where Merlin is said to be imprisoned.According to Sherlock Holmes, it is a great Bounded Field in the form of a sarcophagus Spell inscribed with the words "Only those free of sin may pass"

The innocent is the one that she uses to imprison Merlin, while Sweet dreams and Dark Abyss is unknown. Persumably Sweet Dreams is to put its target to sleep while abyss is basically bfr

 

[King]

Stand proud, Kevin.

You are strong.

Kevin has lost his friends and his girlfriend

 

[Salfarc]

https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/lostbelt-morgan-le-fey-f-go-vs-fairy-tail-universe.1140364/page-2

That's a really nice feat from Fairy Tail. But they forgot that Servant itself can go faster than light, to the point someone like Melusine, who is capable of interstellar travel according to her profile, admits Morgan can fight her.

@Salfarc You have good point about Rhongomyniad but here the feat about Morgan so far.

-Capable to use Water Mirror , an ability to send someone to somewhere or BFR. Accourding to Avalon le Fae synopsis in Mashu description this tecnique is send someone to past. As Chaldea servant she still can use this power during Sea Monster Crisis but choose not to because the rule of PPH is different compare to her lostbelt.

-Can rayshifting herself and habetrot to singalurity in sea monster event and Da-Vinci is pissed with comment how Morgan rayshift herself without her permission.

-Can made clone strong as her original self.This is happen during she stood up from her throne in section 24.

-Berly desrcibe her as Monster because of her ability such like teleportation and the others in section 14.

-Can sealed oppenent and mind rape them with Garden of Lost Will. This is cursed artifact that traps the target in a dream and one of Aesc trumph card. According to Artoria Caster in Section 21, it is a a cold and unforgiving Garden that whittles away the hearts of its visitors by stripping away their delusions and torturing them with self-loathing. The target can escape from it if they endure it until the end or if the artifact is smashed to pieces from the outside which is mashu can do in order to free Ritsuka and Castoria.

- In Summer event 2023 Morgan can create barrier that is hard to be destroyed by Circe, Taigong Wang, Skadi, and Medea. Only Merlin can do it, but he chooses not to help Ritsuka and the others.

- She can also perform magical plastic surgery and erased the memory. Tonelico used this to create a decoy while she made her escape in section 19. Her stage 2 voice lined dialogue 3 confirmed she can transform you into the Jewel or Worst turned you into the pig in level up 2.

I kinda mention the water mirror with her shifting instantly. Someone already mention her rayshifting too.

I don't think a lot of this matters that much.Such as the barrier and plastic surgery. The mirror and mind rape opponent may, but... The main problem is that if Morgan use Rhongomyniad, majority wont survive 1v1. And I am one of those who believe Morgan can resist time stop even without Magic Resistance. Normal resistance from Mana does still exist. But it will open up another completely different argument. This all can help of course, but the main point is how the FT still need at least planetary to compete with Morgan.

As I said if theres multiple Planetary combatants vs Morgan solo it will be problem for her. If its 1v1 and they don't even reaches Planetary, then they can only beat her if they surprise her. Which I think is only possible in R 3. This is how I take it though. I am still not entirely sure how strong FT are after Hundred Years Quest.

 

[King]

Why the hell doesn't Morgan solo fairy tail, no one fairy tail can even destroy the planet

 

[Salfarc]

Why the hell doesn't Morgan solo fairy tail, no one fairy tail can even destroy the planet

Again, I am not sure about the Hundred Years quest, as in how much stronger the FT become there but this is what I was saying too. They just can't compete with Morgan if they are not planetary at least. The difference in firepower is just too big.

 

[King]

Again, I'm not sure about the Hundred Year quest, nor how much stronger the FT job becomes, but this is what I'm saying. They couldn't compete with Morgan even though they weren't action-oriented in the least. The fuel specificity is too great.

Continental at its best, doesn't say much

 

[Triple Accel 555]

I kinda mention the water mirror with her shifting instantly. Someone already mention her rayshifting too.

I don't think a lot of this matters that much.Such as the barrier and plastic surgery. The mirror and mind rape opponent may, but... The main problem is that if Morgan use Rhongomyniad, majority wont survive 1v1. And I am one of those who believe Morgan can resist time stop even without Magic Resistance. Normal resistance from Mana does still exist. But it will open up another completely different argument. This all can help of course, but the main point is how the FT still need at least planetary to compete with Morgan.

As I said if theres multiple Planetary combatants vs Morgan solo it will be problem for her. If its 1v1 and they don't even reaches Planetary, then they can only beat her if they surprise her. Which I think is only possible in R 3. This is how I take it though. I am still not entirely sure how strong FT are after Hundred Years Quest.

Except water mirror can send someone to past. How many character in Fairy Tail can time travel with his/her magic ? You also forget Morgan can rayshifted herself which made her can time travel to past or alternate dimension itself.

I read Fairy Tail but i remember there no character can time travel to past or future unlese there a machine with 12 celestial gate in grand magic games.

 

[Salfarc]

Except water mirror can send someone to past. How many character in Fairy Tail can time travel with his/her magic ?

I read Fairy Tail but i remember there no character can time travel to past or future unlese there a machine with 12 celestial gate.

Not sure what is your argument here.

Continental at its best, doesn't say much

Yea thats what I get too, hence why I said Morgan just instantly win. Without any of the skills she have. Not even her durability matters here. She can be as weak as wet tissue and as long as they can't deal with Rhongomyniad, Morgan just win R1 and R2.

 

[King]

Not sure what is your argument here.

Yea thats what I get too, hence why I said Morgan just instantly win. Without any of the skills she have. Not even her durability matters here. She can be as weak as wet tissue and as long as they can't deal with Rhongomyniad, Morgan just win R1 and R2.

I mean continental level fairy tail, why the hell does morgan have weak durability, she doesn't need to use Rhongomyniad, her magic is enough to solo fairy tail

 

[Proto234]

Not sure what is your argument here.

Yea thats what I get too, hence why I said Morgan just instantly win. Without any of the skills she have. Not even her durability matters here. She can be as weak as wet tissue and as long as they can't deal with Rhongomyniad, Morgan just win R1 and R2.

Probably he means if Morgan throws them into the past via her Mirror magic, there's nothing FT can do.

As for R3, I'd say she do even better since Chaldea with geniuses like Vinci is considered too late by 2k years for defeating Morgan.

FT verse who has little to no brain and brawn only will fare worse

 

[Salfarc]

Probably he means if Morgan throws them into the past via her Mirror magic, there's nothing FT can do.

Well idk if thats considered a win...I don't think so. But if it is considered a win, that works too I suppose.

As for R3, I'd say she do even better since Chaldea with geniuses like Vinci is considered too late by 2k years for defeating Morgan.

FT verse who has little to no brain and brawn only will fare worse

I mean in R3 she is taken by surprise, so that should give them some significant advantage. Not like saying it will make them win, just if they can win its only in R3 imo. Because in R1 and R2 they just lose, especially as you say they are "Brawn Only". Her durability does not matter if the get outpowered and outranged so much that their attack won't ever reach her.

Tbh am not really getting what are you guys arguing here. We all agree Morgan just win in R1 and R2, you guys seems to think she just wins in R3 too, which I don't disagree...Just that FT have no chance of winning in R1 and R2 but they have some kind of chance in R3. So Idk why is this happening.

There are some in FT that completely disagree though.

I mean continental level fairy tail, why the hell does morgan have weak durability, she doesn't need to use Rhongomyniad, her magic is enough to solo fairy tail

I get you mean continental level FT which is why again, I say Morgan just win vs them in R1 and R2.

Man, I think its better if you argue with the guy who said this instead of me:

This literally goes both ways it's from what I've heard of her she ain't tanking any of their attacks but they ain't taking her's either.

Selene can instantly shift her placement too

WTF? Again her firepower is planetary, not her durability. Why do you think Ten Tails Madara tends to win against the Lion King even though the Lion King can one-shot him with Rhongomyniad? Morgan has the same issue.

What do you not understand about this

Because you makes it even worse for FT than I do, if this guy doesn't accept me saying Morgan use planetary, pretty sure won't accept you either. And I already mention Morgan is not too weak, she did take blow from Woodwose and not instantly die, this is still the reply from the guy.

Btw, @Triple Accel 555 that is good convenient infodump you just send, if there's more argument in that thread, I may use what you said with link there...As in Copaste what you link for convenient purpose if you don't mind.

 

[King]

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[Masterblack06]

https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/regulate-the-akatsuki-regulators-undead-unluck-vs-the-akatsuki-naruto.1140754/

The akatsuki get clapped so fucking hard. God damn

 

[Salfarc]

This is literally basic physics, holy shit.

Speed = distance / time.
Being able to move a greater distance over a specific period of time means you're faster.

In other words, catching multiple bullets is in fact a greater feat than only being able to move quick enough to catch one.

....obviously.

Another person seems to disagree.

I mean that's mechanically true- regardless of any other argument you care to wager.

Simple math:
Minigun rate of fire- 6000 RPM aka 100 rounds a second or 1 round every 0.01 seconds
Minigun round velocity - 853 m/s
A round traveling at 853 meters per second will, in 0.01 seconds, cross 8.53 meters
Do you disagree with any of that?

If not- that means if you're within that range and parry the first bullet? You'll have just as much time to parry the next one- it won't even have fired the second bullet by the time you deal with the first one.
Needless to say- most guns don't have such a high rate of fire. An AK-47 maxes out as 600 RPM.

Dealing with subsequent bullets from the same shooter is nice for consistency but feat-wise blocking ten bullets makes you little to no faster than blocking one bullet from the same gun.
Now catching bullets from a dozen different shooters firing at once? Very different feat- but that doesn't seem to be the approach you all were taking.

Like if the 1st bullet here can be taken within 1 second while traveling over 853m, the 2nd bullet have to be taken less than 0.01 second travelling 8.53m. How is that the same

 

[King]

https://forums.spacebattles.com/thr...ni-demon-slayer-vs-nasuverse-vampire.1140811/ . . @Xhominid The Apex[/USER