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Dr wheelo (Dbz movies) vs zero tails (naruto movies)
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My dude, Dr. Wheelo is beyond anything in Naruto by absolutely massive extent. Why you keep making threads?
#WheeloSweep 
Wow rewatching the fights is even worse than I remember
Wheelo’s ki was constantly rising higher (I think from the reactor in his fortress). He went from initially being slightly weaker than Saiyan saga Vegeta to being as powerful as Monster Zarbon fast
His growth rate alone solos anything in Nardo
Wheelo’s ki was constantly rising higher (I think from the reactor in his fortress). He went from initially being slightly weaker than Saiyan saga Vegeta to being as powerful as Monster Zarbon fast
His growth rate alone solos anything in Nardo
He overpowered Kaioken x3 KHH almost instantly in the beam struggle. He pushed Goku to using KKx4 pretty fast
That doesn’t tell me it’s anything beyond Wheelo being a bit stronger than Saiyan Saga Vegeta level at best, especially since he got overpowered by KKx4 easily
Vegeta fodderized his Saiyan Saga self essentially when he one-shotted Cui and Zarbon still made short work of that same Vegeta
Kaioken x3 is 24,000+ (apparently even higher since this movie seems to imply Goku is stronger here than in the Saiyan saga)
Wheelo’s beam overpowered it to the same extent Monster Zarbon overpowered Vegeta (maybe even worse, Vegeta could still kinda fight back against Zarbon)
Goku needed x4 to get the leg up on Vegeta too
Saw no implication of Goku being stronger in the movie either
Goku needed x4 to get the leg up on Vegeta too
Saw no implication of Goku being stronger in the movie either
Gordo is basically saying that in comparison to Saiyan Saga Vegeta who got his ass beat pretty hard before he went all out with his Galick Gun, Dr. Wheelo easily pushed him to KKx4 which is a major difference.
And I'm pretty sure at the Saiyan Saga, Goku was at 8000 and Vegeta was at 18000 meaning that a Kaioken x3 really WAS out of Vegeta's paygrade.
Mind you, the movie tells us Wheelo’s ki was getting stronger. So it makes sense based on his performance
Yes, Saiyan Saga Vegeta started out a little bit stronger than Wheelo (Wheelo’s body was breaking apart and lost an arm when KKx3 Goku hit him while Vegeta took the beating like a champ) then he ends up overpowering KKx3 moments later in the beam struggle (as opposed to Galick Gun just matching it)
It was a bit briefer but still the same outcome: Goku needing Kaioken x4 to finally win the beam struggle. Vegeta even with 18,000 was able to push back against Kaioken x3 enough to force 4
You also got Gohan hurting Wheelo later on as well as Piccolo damaging him with a mouth blast even after his supposed powerup.
I have Wheelo as perhaps a bit stronger than Saiyan Saga Vegeta but not enough to argue he’s strong enough to match a guy who wrecked a stronger Vegeta
Doesn’t matter in the end: Even Raditz would steamroll anyone in Naruto
Movie feats are all over the place tbh
Turles in M3 stomps KKx10 Goku with zero effort (which puts his power level far above 300,000 easily and much, much stronger than Ginyu) yet he didn’t just one-shot the other Z Fighters
Like Piccolo and Gohan who were stated to be 18,000 and 10,000 respectively in that movie
No? You need to re-watch that scene again and understand one thing:
Specialized Ki Attacks AMPLIFY the Ki levels of the User as the basis of the attack. That's why the Kamehameha, Masenko, Galick Gun, etc. can push back fighters or even hurt them when normally they cannot.
Vegeta went all in with his Galick Gun and it amplified the shit out of his Ki to the point Goku only just barely matched it.
Movie Feats(Or TOEIland as Blade calls it) is pretty insane and doesn't really tend to make sense as they tend to overpower the shit out of the villains but also tend to buff up the heroes(See Broly not just dusting everyone in one shit but their dwindling power was enough to cause a weakened SS Goku to actually hurt him) on top of that.