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VS Battle Ganondorf (Tears of the kingdom) vs Shao Kahn (Mortal kombat)
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Shao Kahn soul rips him
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How fast is Shao Kahn and how potent is the soul hax?
he can rip the souls of the planet's population, in speed he has lightning reactions but I don't know if there was any upgrade.How fast is Shao Kahn and how potent is the soul hax?
Once he rips the soul from the person, what does he do with it?
Because it'll definitely effect him and remove him from his physical body (the best soul manipulation resistance in the franchise is against Twilight and that's only on the scale of regions of a medieval country), but if it only shuffles him out of his body Ganon's not going to care. Ganon in Twilight Princess alone was comfortably existing as a soul as that giant fiery head form and all.
Lightning reactions shouldn't be fast enough either tbh.
How fast is Shao Kahn and how potent is the soul hax?
Just for starters
Can't say much for his speed department unless anyone knows how fast MK characters are
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I think the most notable MK characters are mhs to relativistic. Dodging and reacting to lightning. There have been instances of Kotal and Sonya dodging Kano’s laser.
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onelastforum.com I gotta figure Shao Kahn doesn't want to try and absorb Ganon's soul. Once you've gone past removing it from the body, if its not going straight to the afterlife or some kind of arbitrary oblivion it becomes a power struggle tug of war and Ganon can functionally fight just fine as a soul. Hell, taking it into himself? Sounds like he leaves himself wide open to possession if he's unable to cope with the soul's power and weight.
Though NetherRealm Studios can’t seem to make up their minds if the kick is sending foes to a portal or not.
If its soul removal + BFR that'd be different.
If its just soul removal and he noms it he's going to suffer some form of indigestion.
Ganon has dimensional BFR, but he hasn't demonstrated the ability to come back from it himself. Mind you, could just be that the barrier between Dark World and Light World were substantially stronger than the gap between dimensions he chucked Phantom Ganon into, but he also failed to break free of the Twilight Realm with expedience either. Took about 100 years to brute force the Sacred Realm after OoT. Took him 500 years to break free of the flood barrier the Goddess Trio inflicted, but that also condemns the Goddesses as being woefully inept to not just smite his ass instead of resigning a whole ass continent to flooding + Master Sword fueled time lock.
Sure, create the world, sun, physics, and whatever. Can't kill one dude from the desert though. That's the job for the small green clad wearing reincarnating child wielding the sentient AI divine sword of smiting.
Rain should still have control over all the Earth's water as stated by the devs in the Kombat Kast, which at the very least scales to NRS Shao Kahn due to the latter's status as one of the top tiers of the verse. Dunno specifically where that would place him (prolly around multi-continental or so) but I'm pretty sure there's some extra stuff in there that puts him higher.
Midway timeline Shao Kahn at least has the firepower to keep up with Ganondorf since the dude was planet level going all the way back in to MK3. Obviously the soul stuff is what matters most here but there's probably gonna be a bit of scrapping between the two before it reaches that point.
Midway timeline Shao Kahn at least has the firepower to keep up with Ganondorf since the dude was planet level going all the way back in to MK3. Obviously the soul stuff is what matters most here but there's probably gonna be a bit of scrapping between the two before it reaches that point.
Where does BOTW-TOTK sit within the timeline anyway? Have we gotten any confirmation?
Apparently, Nintendo said that Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom is set at the end of all three timelines.
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In the end. It’s a point of conversion that signifies the end.
Likely because both have Ganon “sacrificing” his reincarnation or something along those lines. God knows it probably won’t stick tho
Apparently, Nintendo said that Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom is set at the end of all three timelines.
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What the fuck
How does this make sense
I’m sure they’ll expand on the timelines converging at some pointWhat the fuck
How does this make sense
Or not, because why would they care?
He didn’t sacrifice it, that was a mistranslation. He hadn’t given up on reincarnating, thus forced that Dark Beast transformation in the raw Japanese IIRC
What extent of planet level? Ganon’s passive power pulling the moon closer while causing the Blood Moon is definitely Ganon’s best personal feat (and that was a weakened Calamity Ganon fighting through the seal imposed on him by Zelda). The trailers for Tears of the Kingdom make the Blood Moon influence look even more bullshit close though. Mind you, this is Ganon at his best ever. The game opens with his magic blast crippling Link’s arm (not a bad endurance showing for Link, having any matter existing after that at all is a feat enough) and breaking the Master Sword despite it being what should be presumably it’s full known power from previous games. That dehydrated corpse beneath the castle did what no previous incarnation could including the Demon King he’s the incarnation of hatred of.
And we still have no real fucking clue where the Triforce is other than Zelda being implied to hold it. The tug of war between what was his sealed soul and the Triforce leading to Zelda having drained its power after 100 years is right on up there with the narrative that the Goddess Trio is honestly kind of worthless relative to the reincarnating hatred from the moment they needed to flood the continent to form a barrier and impose a time lock through the Master Sword on his army. Didn’t even kill him, he escaped on his own after 500 years.
So, Blood Moon aside, you also need to discuss Nayru creating at least the Sun and basically physics and Din having created the world outright too. Apparently creating all life is treated as an equal feat for Farore’s sake too.
Should be at least on the minimum end of planetary given he scales to Raiden, who destroys the world in his MK1 ending.I’m sure they’ll expand on the timelines converging at some point
Or not, because why would they care?
He didn’t sacrifice it, that was a mistranslation. He hadn’t given up on reincarnating, thus forced that Dark Beast transformation in the raw Japanese IIRC
What extent of planet level? Ganon’s passive power pulling the moon closer while causing the Blood Moon is definitely Ganon’s best personal feat (and that was a weakened Calamity Ganon fighting through the seal imposed on him by Zelda). The trailers for Tears of the Kingdom make the Blood Moon influence look even more bullshit close though. Mind you, this is Ganon at his best ever. The game opens with his magic blast crippling Link’s arm (not a bad endurance showing for Link, having any matter existing after that at all is a feat enough) and breaking the Master Sword despite it being what should be presumably it’s full known power from previous games. That dehydrated corpse beneath the castle did what no previous incarnation could including the Demon King he’s the incarnation of hatred of.
And we still have no real fucking clue where the Triforce is other than Zelda being implied to hold it. The tug of war between what was his sealed soul and the Triforce leading to Zelda having drained its power after 100 years is right on up there with the narrative that the Goddess Trio is honestly kind of worthless relative to the reincarnating hatred from the moment they needed to flood the continent to form a barrier and impose a time lock through the Master Sword on his army. Didn’t even kill him, he escaped on his own after 500 years.
So, Blood Moon aside, you also need to discuss Nayru creating at least the Sun and basically physics and Din having created the world outright too. Apparently creating all life is treated as an equal feat for Farore’s sake too.
In MK3 he fights Raiden, and though he does lose the fight, the fact that he's often seen as a peer to Raiden should give him similar scaling.
There's probably some extra stuff in the 3D era of the Midway timeline that I'm forgetting but it should be roughly similar. Though if Ganondorf actually is getting star level scaling then I don't think the specifics matter much here
It’s gotten harder to ignore the fact their power doesn’t appear to stand at the top with Breath of the Wild and I’m gonna guess Tears of the Kingdom too. The pieces have been there since Wind Waker, just the direct challenge to the Triforce from someone without it is a pretty big nail in the coffin *shrugs*
EDIT - Technically the first piece has existed since ALTTP, but that was just easy to write off as an outlier until it wasn’t anymore.
Zelda’s that kind of series that can have brain dead low interpretations and stratospheric highs with little in between either way
Guess the middle end shit is Morpha freezing Zora’s Domain and draining Lake Hylia, Volvagia’s death causing Death Mountain to erupt, Goht’s eternal blizzard, Gyorg heating up the hydrosphere and causing that massive water cyclone around the temple, the Ether Medallion clearing the thunderstorm over Misery Mire, etc
EDIT - Technically the first piece has existed since ALTTP, but that was just easy to write off as an outlier until it wasn’t anymore.
Zelda’s that kind of series that can have brain dead low interpretations and stratospheric highs with little in between either way
Guess the middle end shit is Morpha freezing Zora’s Domain and draining Lake Hylia, Volvagia’s death causing Death Mountain to erupt, Goht’s eternal blizzard, Gyorg heating up the hydrosphere and causing that massive water cyclone around the temple, the Ether Medallion clearing the thunderstorm over Misery Mire, etc
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