Godfrey vs. Placidusax

[Aurelian]

The thing is the Godskin Apostles actually came about after the Night of Black Knives, and there wasn't a previous cycle where the Elden Ring was broken before. Like it was in the game. Since Godwyn is noted to be the first deity/demigod to actually die in recorded history. Doesn't really make sense for them to have come beforehand. Since they had a body count of dead deities on their clothing already. Which would suggest this happened after Ranni's theft. Godwyn's assassination actually happened during the very beginning of the Golden Age. As confirmed by Rogier, and only many years later did the Shattering happen. There's a huge gap of time-frame we're missing.

It doesn't make much sense timeline wise because the Godskin Apostles and Nobles clothing is already made up of dead Gods' flayed skin and flesh. So who are these other gods when they were already established? The dragons had been subdued and defeated already, the Giants nearly wiped out, and the God of Rot was sealed at the time. The Shattering happens like you said, AFTER, the Night of the Black Knives and Godwyn's death. Which is well after Godfrey/Horah was already banished from Leyndell.

 

[Atem]

It doesn't make much sense timeline wise because the Godskin Apostles and Nobles clothing is already made up of dead Gods' flayed skin and flesh. So who are these other gods when they were already established? The dragons had been subdued and defeated already, the Giants nearly wiped out, and the God of Rot was sealed at the time. The Shattering happens like you said, AFTER, the Night of the Black Knives and Godwyn's death. Which is well after Godfrey/Horah was already banished from Leyndell.

Marika was also active during the conception of the Erdtree itself, and was granting people blessings from it even then. The Erdtree we know is actually the result of the Elden Beast crashing to earth, and becoming the Elden Ring. Which means she is the first host of the Elden Ring.

 

[Aurelian]

Marika was also active during the conception of the Erdtree itself, and was granting people blessings from it even then. The Erdtree we know is actually the result of the Elden Beast crashing to earth, and becoming the Elden Ring. Which means she is the first host of the Elden Ring.

No I mean I know this already. We know the Empyrean who gets chosen becomes the ascendant "head" for their patron Outer God:

- Greater Will choose Marika for the Age of Gold
- Dark Moon Outer God wanted Ranni to be that for the Age of Stars
- etc

I meant who are these other "gods" that were being killed by the DEQ and her Apostles, since they are clearly not direct or indirect members of Marika, Radagon, and Godfrey's family.

 

[Atem]

No I mean I know this already. We know the Empyrean who gets chosen becomes the ascendant "head" for their patron Outer God:

- Greater Will choose Marika for the Age of Gold
- Dark Moon Outer God wanted Ranni to be that for the Age of Stars
- etc

I meant who are these other "gods" that were being killed by the DEQ and her Apostles, since they are clearly not direct or indirect members of Marika, Radagon, and Godfrey's family.

I assumed that Marika either had more children since she was immortal and has lived a very long time, or it could be the foreign gods. Since it's revealed that there are a lot of others. Like in Mount Glemir there was a Serpent God, and a religion that surrounded him in the past. Not to be confused with Rykard.

 

[Atem]

Though there is a definite possibility that Rykard was influenced by him.