jay23
Illustrious
Jay23, you played in the last mash on MU where you shot chariot
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Mlraka
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Or Hayumi is just the 3rd mafia
You know what I'm gonna ISO Hayumi this lit a fire under my ass
damn more posts i wont be reading
Hayumi
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I think you’ve shown some effort to solve and had a few posts I read as townie here and there, like this one for example
Gives me town-paranoia vibes like you’re really convinced I’m scum trying to direct you lmao.
At this point you’re starting to remind me of how Sparkles hard tunneled me tho and I made the exact same mistake in judgement for taking her attitude towards me as town-ish
Back to the null pile for me bc I’m not sure what you were expecting me to say and hung up on what I read your slot or not.
Hayumi
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I think he’s a town lean after his confessional and claim. Read as upset townie, and backed up by all the players familiar with his meta that he was acting in his usual town pattern
Hayumi
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im not caught up, so vote for sale
Vote off Lappland.
Hayumi
Distinguished
What do you mean 3rd mafia?
Vote Gad or Aurelian.
Yeah she/he is town.
So you agree with them that MLraka is just town?
Mlraka
Notorious
ISO on Hayumi
Part 1
'Yay let’s get it. Hello to all the new faces in this one I don’t think I’ve played with half of you lol' - feels NAI
'I have the opposite thought tbh, I think it’s uncommon for scum to claim so early but definitely NAI overall' - seems weird for a wolf to disagree on something minor this early so I'm inclined to slight TL this
'Can you elaborate? You don’t buy their explanation that they thought Villager just = Town?' - valid question to Boquise
'Way too early town leans so far Gad Stick Lethal' - no real explanation here, well the Stick one was a little but the Sharter and Lethal ones feel a bit random without an explanation. OK I see they explained it later nvm
'Brownie points for this post for sure, I’m following your thoughts
'One thing I think looks good tho, is their response makes sense in the context that they thought it was a joke or throw away comment cuz they just asked earlier if they were actually being serious' - this was in response to Boquise. I suppose they had a similar thought to me on Boquise, but it does feel a bit dismissive of the sarcasm of Stick. Could be some meta at play that wasn't made explicit
'Stick: Seems pretty townie in his responses + was quick to clarify what he meant about claiming villager. I was able to follow along with him taking the scum accusations like a joke and then later asking to clarify. Doesn’t seem like he has any agendas so far.
GAD: Logic behind what’s he saying, just kind of my gut feeling having played many games with him recently. Like him
questioning certain angles on this post right here'
I kinda see where the Stick read came from from their POV, the Sharter one, hard to judge based on a meta I don't know. At least Hayumi is giving explanations for their reads that make sense so small TL for that
'I got town vibes from the way they claimed yes. What do you mean by trap?' - I was also confused by the 'trap' thing, normal reaction I think
Part 2
'I don’t like doing self meta on myself. If I can actually read and follow along with some sort of thought process I’m more than happy to explain.' - seems a normal response to Jay23, a bit deflective but Jay also asked a bit of a loaded question. That said I did feel like this presumptiveness comes more from a town POV than mafia POV
'Yah it’s true the claim in itself is still NAI, I just got more so of a gut feel in the way they came across but I’ve been wrong before on scum for similar reasons not that long ago lololol so let me take a step back. I do think the other reasons are still valid, like how they responded to getting sussed almost in a joking way and then later came back to clarify if the sus was a joke or not. Just reads kind of townie to me I don’t know how to really put words to it.' - Jay challenged Hayumi on the Stick read not making sense. I feel like Hayumi's explanation is valid, it can be hard to explain gut feel
'What are your thoughts on BradLand and Miraka so far?
Miraka had a mixed bag of posts for me. Some of them looked townie, some looked kind of suspect.
this reaction to getting some early pressure isn’t great imo. I feel like I would react kind of similarly as scum getting caught out, but also could just be AtE as town.
BradLand seems to have some sort of meta knowledge on Miraka implying they could have shown a scum tell but hasn’t really pushed there himself so makes me wonder'
Weird read on Brad, granted Brad hadn't made many posts here but this is the first post that feels a little sus from Hayumi
Also felt like they were planting the seeds here for an early mislynch on me to try and protect Brad. Yeah the more I reflect on this the less I like it, trying to get a lynch on me without being the one 'blamed' for misleading the town the next day by hedging.
'Everyone say hello to Alexis, this game just got much less boring
' - seems NAI
'Probably just NAI but I’m sus on them for other reasons' - suddenly switched to voting Brad without explaining why
'What would you say if I said I could see a world where you and Brad actually have scum equity. He was sort of fence sitting by suggesting he has scum tell knowledge on you but not doing anything with it. And now you return the favor by sussing him but aren’t interested in really applying pressure in that direction?' - this is another thing that put me off a bit with Hayumi. They wanted me to vote Brad and just dismissed me saying I was more sus on Stick as being scummy. The whole interaction with me just feels fake on their part, I think I forgot about this a bit because of Brad and Aurelian being more sus, but the whole 'return the favour' argument is just nonsensical
Damn it the site is freezing for me now
But current conclusion from the ISO so far is Hayumi scum lean
Part 1
'Yay let’s get it. Hello to all the new faces in this one I don’t think I’ve played with half of you lol' - feels NAI
'I have the opposite thought tbh, I think it’s uncommon for scum to claim so early but definitely NAI overall' - seems weird for a wolf to disagree on something minor this early so I'm inclined to slight TL this
'Can you elaborate? You don’t buy their explanation that they thought Villager just = Town?' - valid question to Boquise
'Way too early town leans so far Gad Stick Lethal' - no real explanation here, well the Stick one was a little but the Sharter and Lethal ones feel a bit random without an explanation. OK I see they explained it later nvm
'Brownie points for this post for sure, I’m following your thoughts
'One thing I think looks good tho, is their response makes sense in the context that they thought it was a joke or throw away comment cuz they just asked earlier if they were actually being serious' - this was in response to Boquise. I suppose they had a similar thought to me on Boquise, but it does feel a bit dismissive of the sarcasm of Stick. Could be some meta at play that wasn't made explicit
'Stick: Seems pretty townie in his responses + was quick to clarify what he meant about claiming villager. I was able to follow along with him taking the scum accusations like a joke and then later asking to clarify. Doesn’t seem like he has any agendas so far.
GAD: Logic behind what’s he saying, just kind of my gut feeling having played many games with him recently. Like him
questioning certain angles on this post right here'
I kinda see where the Stick read came from from their POV, the Sharter one, hard to judge based on a meta I don't know. At least Hayumi is giving explanations for their reads that make sense so small TL for that
'I got town vibes from the way they claimed yes. What do you mean by trap?' - I was also confused by the 'trap' thing, normal reaction I think
Part 2
'I don’t like doing self meta on myself. If I can actually read and follow along with some sort of thought process I’m more than happy to explain.' - seems a normal response to Jay23, a bit deflective but Jay also asked a bit of a loaded question. That said I did feel like this presumptiveness comes more from a town POV than mafia POV
'Yah it’s true the claim in itself is still NAI, I just got more so of a gut feel in the way they came across but I’ve been wrong before on scum for similar reasons not that long ago lololol so let me take a step back. I do think the other reasons are still valid, like how they responded to getting sussed almost in a joking way and then later came back to clarify if the sus was a joke or not. Just reads kind of townie to me I don’t know how to really put words to it.' - Jay challenged Hayumi on the Stick read not making sense. I feel like Hayumi's explanation is valid, it can be hard to explain gut feel
'What are your thoughts on BradLand and Miraka so far?
Miraka had a mixed bag of posts for me. Some of them looked townie, some looked kind of suspect.
this reaction to getting some early pressure isn’t great imo. I feel like I would react kind of similarly as scum getting caught out, but also could just be AtE as town.
BradLand seems to have some sort of meta knowledge on Miraka implying they could have shown a scum tell but hasn’t really pushed there himself so makes me wonder'
Weird read on Brad, granted Brad hadn't made many posts here but this is the first post that feels a little sus from Hayumi
Also felt like they were planting the seeds here for an early mislynch on me to try and protect Brad. Yeah the more I reflect on this the less I like it, trying to get a lynch on me without being the one 'blamed' for misleading the town the next day by hedging.
'Everyone say hello to Alexis, this game just got much less boring
' - seems NAI'Probably just NAI but I’m sus on them for other reasons' - suddenly switched to voting Brad without explaining why
'What would you say if I said I could see a world where you and Brad actually have scum equity. He was sort of fence sitting by suggesting he has scum tell knowledge on you but not doing anything with it. And now you return the favor by sussing him but aren’t interested in really applying pressure in that direction?' - this is another thing that put me off a bit with Hayumi. They wanted me to vote Brad and just dismissed me saying I was more sus on Stick as being scummy. The whole interaction with me just feels fake on their part, I think I forgot about this a bit because of Brad and Aurelian being more sus, but the whole 'return the favour' argument is just nonsensical
Damn it the site is freezing for me now
But current conclusion from the ISO so far is Hayumi scum lean
Hayumi
Distinguished
What was your question?
Mlraka
Notorious
Are you actually trying to find mafia this game
Or do you think this is a campfire party where we eat marshmallows, tell stories and sing Kumbaya
Cause if you really believe that
I'm not gonna waste my time replying to your dumb ass
Mlraka
Notorious
No, there's no way Brad is town here
I dare anyone to name one townie thing they did
I'll wait
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